steinway-like electronic piano recommendations?

[magnificientako]

I'm looking for Steinway-like key action,weight,mechanism electronic piano.The sound is not important.I using sampling vst.

[iansinclair]

You have got to be kidding.  Good luck... although some of the very top end Yamaha and Kawai pianos do have a decent action, if not a Steinway (or other top end grand) feel.

[allthumbs]

I'm looking for Steinway-like key action,weight,mechanism electronic piano.The sound is not important.I using sampling vst.

There is no such thing...

[ionian_tinnear]

My Yamaha S90 feels pretty good, but more like a light-touch Yamaha, not like a Steinway.  To get that feel, you need a Steinway..  I've not found a digital piano I like better, at least not a stage keyboard.

I also have several VSTs, but to get the Steinway sound, you need a Steinway.  VSTs sound like what they are, recordings (samples) of pianos, and therefore don't sound like a piano.  In an ensemble, that's ok.  Solo, it's less ok.

[ajspiano]

I'm looking for Steinway-like key action,weight,mechanism electronic piano.The sound is not important.I using sampling vst.

I suspect you'll find that a large part of "Steinway" pianos are exclusively that. There will be patented elements, so even if a DP manufacturer could be put in a keyboard they won't do it, since Steinway would charge the earth in licencing fees for it and the device would become too expensive. Seriously, Steinway hand craft their instruments in what is probably a secret laboratory with military protection. Maybe not, but I'm sure you get the picture. You can't keep charging $200,000 for your pianos if you let anyone else produce them.

You can get a great action in a keyboard, but you're not going to get a Steinway, or Steinway-like one without actually buying a steinway and fitting it with midi triggers.

I would suggest you go and TEST them yourself, and get your own personal feel for what you like. And ideally, test them with your VST rather than their native sound as it will make them feel different.

[richard black]

There's absolutely no technical (or legal) reason why you couldn't duplicate the feel of a Steinway piano. The only problem is that it's very difficult and would probably result in something as big, heavy and expensive as a real Steinway. Kinda pointless, then...

[hbofinger]

a. Why Steinway only?
b. If you are thinking electronic, it will ALLWAYS be a piano simulator. Nothing more, nothing less.

[ajspiano]

There's absolutely no technical (or legal)

Maybe not, but then again..

A history of steinway piano design patents, since 1857
https://www.ilovesteinway.com/steinway/parts/steinway_patents_1950_2000.cfm

The more recent ones would be still active, and there's one relating to escapement. There may also ofcourse be patents post 2000 not listed on that site.

[magnificientako]

Do not need to be Steinway.An example of that.Not so easy to play complex pieces of electronic pianos.Steinway and Bosendorfer tried before.Work more comfortable to play.My piano korg ec320 concert.Probably uses Fatar TP40 keybed.Did you think suitable for the classical work of each type of?

[iansinclair]

Ah... perhaps what you are asking for are suggestions for good electronic pianos?  That's a somewaht different matter than your original.  There are a number of good electronic pianos -- a scan of various posts in this section of pianostreet will find many different comments on them, and suggestions.  As I noted in my first reply, there are a couple of top end -- and very expensive, relatively speaking -- Yamaha and Kawai electronic pianos with actions which are remarkably similar to good grand actions.  Going back down the ladder, there are more options at less price, and more makers.

In answer to your last question, in my humble opinion I doubt very much that you present keyboard is suitable for learing classical piano technique -- although there is nothing wrong with it as a keyboard, it doesn't come close to a piano action, which is what you need.

[hfmadopter]

Do not need to be Steinway.An example of that.Not so easy to play complex pieces of electronic pianos.Steinway and Bosendorfer tried before.Work more comfortable to play.My piano korg ec320 concert.Probably uses Fatar TP40 keybed.Did you think suitable for the classical work of each type of?

Have a look at some Kawai models which have the wooden keys. Not all of the Kawais do, the MP 10 has them and upper end consoles for instance. If you look up the specs you will see in there which Kawai pianos have it.

Other than that I've played a couple of mid to upper end Rolands that felt good. And people here claim some Yamahas have nice action. I played the CP33 with it's GH action, it felt decent and yet the P155 also has GH action and it didn't feel as good to me.

[magnificientako]

Thank you for your suggestions.Will continue my research.