Help! I don't want to practice. Advice please?

[japanesepianist]

     I just finished up auditioning for LACHSA, and I've started new pieces. I started Haydn's Sonata Hob 16 No 36, and Chopin's Wrong Note Etude. I don't want to pracice either piece. I feel like there isn't any motivation to practice. I mean, I DO want to practice, but I just never want to, you know? I'm about 1/2 way through the Etude and 1/4 through the Sonata. I don't really want to play the Chopin Etude- while it is a beautiful piece, it's probably the hardest Etude out of the 24 for me. My teacher doesn't seem to understand that I want to switch out that etude with a different one and play the Wrong Note etude at a different time. With the Haydn sonata, I just have no motivation to practice, more so than the Etude. Does anyone hace any tips on how I can motivate myself to practice? Thanks in advance.

[lostinidlewonder]

Think of your situation with a different perspective. Of course we should study music which excites us and we enjoy to play but sometimes we need to be tested and do things we do not necessarily want to do. Treat it as a test, prove that you can get through any work even if it doesn't totally excite you. This will extend you as a musician being able to focus and go through things you do not want to do. That is life really, often we have to do things we don't want to do, if we are faced with these challenges we should try not do solve it by dragging ourselves through it.

[chopin2015]

Agreed, it is the hardest etude out of them all. I mean...oww! Why dont you try one of the 4 page ones from op 10? The 25/5 takes a variety of technique ....just do something equally as good,(an chopin etude is a chopin etude!)it will be easier right now(in this case because it is appropriate time, not too ambitious but still takes work) and agreed, u will have an easier time with wrong note later, following a shorter etude.

10 no 4?

Its really scary, and annoying to others when practiced, but its a really cool etude.

Haydn....have u done beethoven? You dont seem too into haydn right now. You should follow your instincts and study who you want. Then study haydn when you really genuinely like all classical music...haha

[pianist1976]

Difficulty is a relative issue... but for sure the OP 25 no. 5 (I really dislike that "wrong note" name) is not the hardest Chopin etude.

[birba]

"Wrong note etude"?!  What the...?!
I must be living in a bubble.  This is the first time I've ever heard such a ridiculous nickname for an etude...

[pianist1976]

"Wrong note etude"?!  What the...?!
I must be living in a bubble.  This is the first time I've ever heard such a ridiculous nickname for an etude...

Yes, such a stupid name for a wonderful music poem. I knew a few new nicknames for Chopin etudes thanks to the Internet, with such random names as "waterfall" or "ocean". Before that I only knew the few nicknames placed on discs ("tristesse" and so on). I wonder if these new ones exist due to the Wikipedia or what. Some people is dare enough even to name the two transcendental etudes that Liszt left unnamed (for instance, Transcendental Etude no. 2 is now "fusees"). Audacity (or maybe stupidity) doesn't seem to have limits  

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3. A cone-shaped pulley with a spiral groove, used in a cord- or chain-winding clock to maintain even travel in the timekeeping mechanism as the force of the mainspring lessens in unwinding.
4. A combustible fuse for detonating explosives.
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https://www.thefreedictionary.com/fusee

[pianoman53]

It happens!
Simply don't practice for a few days. If you teacher asked why you didn't practice well that week, you can probably just said you got sick, if s/he wont understand that you "lost it".

Really, it happens to everyone I know. Some pushed through it, and some take a rest. Since it seems like you tried to push, maybe you should rest.

[japanesepianist]

"Wrong note etude"?!  What the...?!
I must be living in a bubble.  This is the first time I've ever heard such a ridiculous nickname for an etude...

     I'm sorry.....my teacher calls it that and she wants me to call it that.

[japanesepianist]

Think of your situation with a different perspective. Of course we should study music which excites us and we enjoy to play but sometimes we need to be tested and do things we do not necessarily want to do. Treat it as a test, prove that you can get through any work even if it doesn't totally excite you. This will extend you as a musician being able to focus and go through things you do not want to do. That is life really, often we have to do things we don't want to do, if we are faced with these challenges we should try not do solve it by dragging ourselves through it.

     what a good perspective! This is one great way of many to look at it. Maybe i'll try it out.

[japanesepianist]

Agreed, it is the hardest etude out of them all. I mean...oww! Why dont you try one of the 4 page ones from op 10? The 25/5 takes a variety of technique ....just do something equally as good,(an chopin etude is a chopin etude!)it will be easier right now(in this case because it is appropriate time, not too ambitious but still takes work) and agreed, u will have an easier time with wrong note later, following a shorter etude.

10 no 4?

I tried asking if I could switch during my lesson on Thursday, and she just doesn't seem to understand how difficult this one is for me. I wanted to play Op. 25 No. 7, and when I told her that, she said she already had had Op. 25 No.5 picked out for me. She doesn't want me playing Op. 10 No. 3, even though she agrees it would be good for me, because it is overplayed. And then....she thinks the Revolutionary Etude is WAY too hard for me. I mean.....I've proved her wrong so many time, like when I proved to her that I could play Fantaisie Impromptu she was  blown away. But I don't know how to prove her wrong this time. At all. THe Fantaisie Impromptu incident happened on coincidence because I was playing Nocturne Op. 72 and she asked me why my polyrhythms had improved, and I told her I had been sel-practicing Fantasie Impromptu. I really don't know how to prove her wrong this time....maybe it's time to switch. She told me that Sonatina MVT. 1 By Ravel was of way too difficulty for me. I play that at home by myself, too. I just don't know anymore.

[japanesepianist]

Difficulty is a relative issue... but for sure the OP 25 no. 5 (I really dislike that "wrong note" name) is not the hardest Chopin etude.

For me it is. The relaxation in the right hand, and the rolls in the left hand...perhaps my 2 greatest weaknesses. It makes me not want to practice this Etude anymore.

[chopin2015]

I tried asking if I could switch during my lesson on Thursday, and she just doesn't seem to understand how difficult this one is for me. I wanted to play Op. 25 No. 7, and when I told her that, she said she already had had Op. 25 No.5 picked out for me. She doesn't want me playing Op. 10 No. 3, even though she agrees it would be good for me, because it is overplayed. And then....she thinks the Revolutionary Etude is WAY too hard for me. I mean.....I've proved her wrong so many time, like when I proved to her that I could play Fantaisie Impromptu she was  blown away. But I don't know how to prove her wrong this time. At all. THe Fantaisie Impromptu incident happened on coincidence because I was playing Nocturne Op. 72 and she asked me why my polyrhythms had improved, and I told her I had been sel-practicing Fantasie Impromptu. I really don't know how to prove her wrong this time....maybe it's time to switch. She told me that Sonatina MVT. 1 By Ravel was of way too difficulty for me. I play that at home by myself, too. I just don't know anymore.

Just tell her that you are physically not ready to do this one. Start on a faster etude, nota slow one like op 10/3
Then show her that you can actually practice this one. Have u heard op 10 4? Its bada**. Its so scary!
The op25.5 works on left hand stretch. But its a very difficult etude. Listen to a few more, lisitsa has 24 of the etudes recorded. Pick a shorter but fast one.

[japanesepianist]

Just tell her that you are physically not ready to do this one. Start on a faster etude, nota slow one like op 10/3
Then show her that you can actually practice this one. Have u heard op 10 4? Its bada**. Its so scary!
The op25.5 works on left hand stretch. But its a very difficult etude. Listen to a few more, lisitsa has 24 of the etudes recorded. Pick a shorter but fast one.

I've listened to them time after time because I love them. Op. 10 No. 4 may be a good fit, or maybe the Sunshine Etude. I'm not sure if I'm quite advanced enough to play Op. 10/4, because I just finished up Waves from "Poems of the Sea" By Bloch and Prelude 6 WTC I from Bach. The most advanced pieces I've every played were the 3rd MVT of Pathetique by Beethoven, and of course Fantaisie Impromptu.

[birba]

Oh, no!  "Sunshine etude"?  It could be any number of them.  Please let me in on this!  I feel so left out ...  At this point, i bet there's a nickname for every one.

[pianoman53]

According to one of Arrau's Cds on spotify, op 10/4 is called The colored woman. I'm not sure where it comes from, but I guess it's just a troll

[j_menz]

Some people is dare enough even to name the two transcendental etudes that Liszt left unnamed (for instance, Transcendental Etude no. 2 is now "fusees"). Audacity (or maybe stupidity) doesn't seem to have limits  

The one who was audacious in that regard was Ferrucio Busoni.

[pianist1976]

The one who was audacious in that regard was Ferrucio Busoni.

Oops... 

[japanesepianist]

Oh, no!  "Sunshine etude"?  It could be any number of them.  Please let me in on this!  I feel so left out ...  At this point, i bet there's a nickname for every one.

The "Sunshine Etude" is Op. 10/8. I should stop it with these stupid nicknames. It makes me worry for myself.

[japanesepianist]

According to one of Arrau's Cds on spotify, op 10/4 is called The colored woman. I'm not sure where it comes from, but I guess it's just a troll

Really? According to Wiki and a few other sources, Op. 10/4 is called "Torrent". Go figure. These nicknames are starting to drive me insane.

[chopin2015]

The "Sunshine Etude" is Op. 10/8. I should stop it with these stupid nicknames. It makes me worry for myself.

Im looking at my book. What about op 10 no 9?

[japanesepianist]

Im looking at my book. What about op 10 no 9?

By this do you mean why not try it? Because, I don't really like the melodic lines as much as the other etudes, I mean, it's beautiful as is all of Chopin's works, but still. And I don't think this one has a nickname, btw. It's one of the few that don't.

[chopin2015]

Hmm. Im just saying, out of all the etudes u like, pick a fast one. Ive worked on op 10/3, 10/12, 25/2, 25/5, 25/11, 25/12. I didnt like the really big rolled chord at the end of 10/12, 10/3 is easy after you do a couple etudes, 25 2 is still moderately difficult, polyrhythms. Op 25 11 is difficult, but i found op 25.5 more difficult, especially if u want to play it like horowitz. Op 25 12 is only a little difficult(if ur good at getting things to tempo), i recommend it.

Do u have the sets?  Try reading into each one that you like and is fast, and see if you find a match. Do you have specific questions? Do u like any of the etudes ive workrd on?

[japanesepianist]

Hmm. Im just saying, out of all the etudes u like, pick a fast one. Ive worked on op 10/3, 10/12, 25/2, 25/5, 25/11, 25/12. I didnt like the really big rolled chord at the end of 10/12, 10/3 is easy after you do a couple etudes, 25 2 is still moderately difficult, polyrhythms. Op 25 11 is difficult, but i found op 25.5 more difficult, especially if u want to play it like horowitz. Op 25 12 is only a little difficult(if ur good at getting things to tempo), i recommend it.

Do u have the sets?  Try reading into each one that you like and is fast, and see if you find a match. Do you have specific questions? Do u like any of the etudes ive workrd on?

Woah, I'm talking to the master of Chopin Etudes! Maybe Op. 10/4 would be good for me, but I don't know if I should also look into Op. 10/12, even though it is overplayed. Is that one difficult? I can sight read it hands together at a nice slow tempo. Maybe Op. 25/1 "Aeolian Harp" (sorry, I just love this nickname) would be a good one to go with. I don't know if that would be a nice one to really start with. The biggest challenge will be explaining to my teacher that I can't play Op. 25/5. Do you know how else I can tell her, besides telling her that I'm not physically ready and it's going to be the hardest etude for me out of the 24 (Which to that she said, 'you haven't played any of them so you can't say that')?

[chopin2015]

Woah, I'm talking to the master of Chopin Etudes! Maybe Op. 10/4 would be good for me, but I don't know if I should also look into Op. 10/12, even though it is overplayed. Is that one difficult? I can sight read it hands together at a nice slow tempo. Maybe Op. 25/1 "Aeolian Harp" (sorry, I just love this nickname) would be a good one to go with. I don't know if that would be a nice one to really start with. The biggest challenge will be explaining to my teacher that I can't play Op. 25/5. Do you know how else I can tell her, besides telling her that I'm not physically ready and it's going to be the hardest etude for me out of the 24 (Which to that she said, 'you haven't played any of them so you can't say that')?

25.1 is a good one! The lady that taught me in russia this winter, she played for me op 25.1 and op 25.2, she went to conservatory in russia, ofcourse . My teacher here in texas is really good and she plays 25.5.. you have a good argument to do 25.5 later. You have a high standard and cannot learn or play 25.5 to said standard at this point in ur career. Dont say that to teacher though. Tell her, you may not have played any of the etudes, but that is exactly the reason. Start with saying you want to learn many chopin etudes, so you feel like you need to have control over the order of what you work on first. You would like to start on a shorter etude, to get things going in a less frustrating manner. I think learning from smallest to greatest dufficulty is a way to improve faster, btw. After u learn 1 short etude well, you can learn the next in line faster, and by the same time it woukd take u to learn op 25.5 if it was ur first etude, it could take u same time to learn 3 etudes if you start with a shorter one. True story.

Ps, op 10 12 was my first etude. Ive played through it, but lets just say, i recommend using good fingering technique. I guess i would do that one before op 25 12 though. Wish i woulda done op 10 4 before op 25 11(then 25.5).
 But yeah, im not a master of the etudes. Right now im only playing 25 11, 25 12 and op 10 3. 10 4 is next, i feel like learning it. Although i thought it was 4 pages, but its 6 pages. Oh well. I may just go for it bit by bit again and find it manageable soon.

[louispodesta]

This is one of the major reasons I am so down on music schools.  Their one size fits all approach does not work for every student.

In your case, you are experiencing the very early, not irreversable, symptoms of burnout or pre-burnout.

I had a roommate in college who was a graduate biology major.  We were talking about music one day and I come to find out that he had played in Piano Guild Competitions from the age of five.   Once he hit college, he never touched a piano again.   I sincerely hope that does not happen to you.

So, what you need to do is to take a crash course in piano literature.  Go to the internet and find as many pieces that you can that you take a liking to.

Then, go to your teacher and ask if there are two pieces in this group that you could use to substitute for those that she has assigned you.

I always picked out my pieces ahead of time, and my teacher, who was student of Gyorgy Sandor, never objected.

Most teachers will respect the effort you have taken to familiarize yourself with the repertoire.

Good luck.

[japanesepianist]

So, what you need to do is to take a crash course in piano literature.  Go to the internet and find as many pieces that you can that you take a liking to.

Then, go to your teacher and ask if there are two pieces in this group that you could use to substitute for those that she has assigned you.

Oh, good idea!! Thanks! I've already familiarized myself with a few piece that I really like, but she says they are all way too hard. Maybe it IS time to switch. I mean, I can play Ravel's Sonatine MVT I on my own at home, but she says it's too hard for me. I'm starting to think that it isn't ME who can't play the piece, but HER who CAN'T TEACH IT. I don't really know where to start, though. I'm very familiar with the Chopin Etudes, and what not, but maybe it's time to look again through some books. Do you have any suggestions for manageable pieces I could look into? The most advanced pieces I have played are Fantaisie Impromptu, and MVT 3 of Beethoven's Pathetique Sonata.

[japanesepianist]

25.1 is a good one! The lady that taught me in russia this winter, she played for me op 25.1 and op 25.2, she went to conservatory in russia, ofcourse . My teacher here in texas is really good and she plays 25.5.. you have a good argument to do 25.5 later. You have a high standard and cannot learn or play 25.5 to said standard at this point in ur career. Dont say that to teacher though. Tell her, you may not have played any of the etudes, but that is exactly the reason. Start with saying you want to learn many chopin etudes, so you feel like you need to have control over the order of what you work on first. You would like to start on a shorter etude, to get things going in a less frustrating manner. I think learning from smallest to greatest dufficulty is a way to improve faster, btw. After u learn 1 short etude well, you can learn the next in line faster, and by the same time it woukd take u to learn op 25.5 if it was ur first etude, it could take u same time to learn 3 etudes if you start with a shorter one. True story.

You are full of good ideas. I'll tell her what you said I should tell her, and she may or may not like it. But...I feel like I'm getting to the point where she can't help me much anymore. I think if nothing works with her, it's going to be her that goes, or Op. 25/5 that goes. I know these 2 Russian piano teachers that charge $60 for lessons 2 times a week. the problem is, they take music really seriously. The person who told us about them said they get so mad at his son sometimes that they throw the WTC I and WTC II at him......O.o I think teachers that are even more strict than the one I have now might be exactly what I need. I don't want to leave where I'm studying at now, thoguh, because I have to perform in the school recital (the 2nd biggest honor in the school) so I think if I switch I'll switch to a former USC Prof. Do you think that it would be a good idea to switch teachers if my teacher doesn't understand this whole thing with my current pieces?

[louispodesta]

First, in regards playing in your school recital, you need to quit worrying about honors and start focusing on your music.  Second, in terms of developing musicianship, the Chopin Etudes are way overrated, in my opinion.

I play and recommend Op 25 #7 because the notes are easy to learn, and it develops musicality.  There are tens of thousands of young pianists who get technically adept early on, and you never hear from them again.  Why?: because, musically, they have nothing to say.

Secondly, every pianist in the 19th century had both a piano teacher and also a theory and composition teacher.   If you are serious about becoming a musician, that is the course of study you need to embark on.

Finally, the "Russians" are basically all BS, and a whole lot of people fall for it.   Two lessons a week is crazy, regardless of the price.  And, mentally abusing a student is unconscionable.

Good luck, focus on the music, and while you are at it, SLOW DOWN!  You are in the process of getting way ahead of yourself.   You have your whole life in front of you.

[andreslr6]

Wait... so you've never played any Chopin etude before and your teacher wants you to start with the Op.25 no.5??   and then she says the 1st movement of Ravel's Sonatine is way to hard???  

I do believe difficulties are not the same for everyone, but there's a limit! if someone, anyone, can supposedly play the op.25 no.5 that person will most likely have the skill, experience and level to learn the complete Sonatine or maybe even already learned it before!

Have you even played any other Etudes from other composers? I learned half of Moszkowski's op.72 etudes before starting with my first Chopin etude, plus some of Czerny's op.740. And also, I think most of us here agree that op.10 no.12 is waaay easier than op.25 no.5, right? at least for me it is, I even consider op.10 no.12 one of the easiest.

But anyways, if you can't get her to change her mind with all the other arguments before me (and yours), try to at least sneak in one piece you want to play because you like it and learn it with the other 2.

PS oh yeah, I was suggesting you could also learn a Moszkowski etude before the op.25 no.5

[japanesepianist]

Finally, the "Russians" are basically all BS, and a whole lot of people fall for it.   Two lessons a week is crazy, regardless of the price.  And, mentally abusing a student is unconscionable.

Yeah...I just wish my teacher would try to understand more. From what I've heard, these 2 teachers think that the place I take lessons from is like a factory- you do the piano workshop if you need to, then once you're intermediate you go to a Friday Night Recital, then you get chosen (like I did) for the School Recital, then you can audition for the Honors Recital (held once a year). So yes, I believe it is like a factory. I do want to continue taking lessons here, it just feels like home to me, and I think I'll switch to a former USC prof.

[japanesepianist]

Yeah, my first Chopin etude is Op. 25/5 and...yes, she thinks all the movements of Sonatine are way too hard for me. I think I'll sneak a piece, like I did with Fantaisie Impromptu. Perhaps someday when I don't practice those 2 pieces all week, I'll tell her which piece it was I was practicing instead. I think. I can't think of any other way to tell her.

[bronnestam]

Well, although I cannot give you any advice on the actual pieces you discuss here and if they are suitable for you or not, my spontaneous reaction when I read you posting is that you should analyze your true feelings a bit deeper now ... because what you write between the lines, all the time, is that you are in a power combat with your teacher right now. She says this and that and you want to proove she is wrong, both consciously and subconsciously (by "not wanting" ...)

So, what is this all about? Music? Or about taking control? Maybe you and your teacher should leave the piano for a while and take long, friendly discussion instead. Because if this is more about you having to "proove things", instead of develop as a pianist, you waste so much energy. Define your targets together. Decide what matters, what really is the best way. Prestige certainly does NOT matter. You have to understand each other better, then I'm sure you will find solutions that are of benefit for you.

[chopin2015]

You are full of good ideas. I'll tell her what you said I should tell her, and she may or may not like it. But...I feel like I'm getting to the point where she can't help me much anymore. I think if nothing works with her, it's going to be her that goes, or Op. 25/5 that goes. I know these 2 Russian piano teachers that charge $60 for lessons 2 times a week. the problem is, they take music really seriously. The person who told us about them said they get so mad at his son sometimes that they throw the WTC I and WTC II at him......O.o I think teachers that are even more strict than the one I have now might be exactly what I need. I don't want to leave where I'm studying at now, thoguh, because I have to perform in the school recital (the 2nd biggest honor in the school) so I think if I switch I'll switch to a former USC Prof. Do you think that it would be a good idea to switch teachers if my teacher doesn't understand this whole thing with my current pieces?

Wow

Yeah is it 2 lessons 60 dollars total? Or 60 each lesson? Otherwise, this may be good for you and just what you need. Minus throwing books at you. Good thing that kid wasnt studying a dictionary, or granades....
My russisn teacher yelled at me too. She told me her teacher called her bad names when she played bach wrong. All for good reasons though. Ps. First movement of sonatine is not as difficult as ondine. Try liszt valse impromptu first though, for that one. 
Also, do u like op 10/8 chopin?

[chopin2015]

Yeah, my first Chopin etude is Op. 25/5 and...yes, she thinks all the movements of Sonatine are way too hard for me. I think I'll sneak a piece, like I did with Fantaisie Impromptu. Perhaps someday when I don't practice those 2 pieces all week, I'll tell her which piece it was I was practicing instead. I think. I can't think of any other way to tell her.

Then u need to start work on one asap. Sorry. Its also hard to pick one, but think about op 25. 2.
Good luck!

[japanesepianist]

Wow

Yeah is it 2 lessons 60 dollars total? Or 60 each lesson? Otherwise, this may be good for you and just what you need. Minus throwing books at you. Good thing that kid wasnt studying a dictionary, or granades....
My russisn teacher yelled at me too. She told me her teacher called her bad names when she played bach wrong. All for good reasons though. Ps. First movement of sonatine is not as difficult as ondine. Try liszt valse impromptu first though, for that one. 
Also, do u like op 10/8 chopin?

It is 2 lessons 60 dollars total. I think I'll mention to my piano teacher on Thursday that I'm not exactly cool with these pieces and I need to pick a different piece to motivate me to practice.

[chopin2015]

It is 2 lessons 60 dollars total. I think I'll mention to my piano teacher on Thursday that I'm not exactly cool with these pieces and I need to pick a different piece to motivate me to practice.

60 dollars total?! I am soo jello right now!

So which piece are u gonna pick?

[nyiregyhazi]

The menage a trois etude is way harder. And what about the photosynthesis etude?

[japanesepianist]

60 dollars total?! I am soo jello right now!

So which piece are u gonna pick?

Probably op 10/8. And then I'll tell her if she doesn't like that then the etude goes and it's Pavane for a Dead Princess. If op. 25/5 doesn't go, she goes. I'll just tell her i wasn't physically ready to play op. 25/5 and I need more time to prepare for an etude that's so hard for me. If she doesn't like 10/8, then it'll be 10/4. If all fails, it's Pavane or Sonatine MVT I. My mom got a call from the head of the piano department saying the profs I wanted won't take me because I'm not advanced enough. I also got rejected from LACHSA. So a lot has been going on for me this week. I will have to stay with my current teacher until the summer. But I'm switching ASAP. But I hope that the etude doesn't become a major issue here. Sure, she may be my teacher and knows my level and capabilities better than others, but I know my limitations better than she does, so I think I need a bit more control.

[chopin2015]

Probably op 10/8. And then I'll tell her if she doesn't like that then the etude goes and it's Pavane for a Dead Princess. If op. 25/5 doesn't go, she goes. I'll just tell her i wasn't physically ready to play op. 25/5 and I need more time to prepare for an etude that's so hard for me. If she doesn't like 10/8, then it'll be 10/4. If all fails, it's Pavane or Sonatine MVT I. My mom got a call from the head of the piano department saying the profs I wanted won't take me because I'm not advanced enough. I also got rejected from LACHSA. So a lot has been going on for me this week. I will have to stay with my current teacher until the summer. But I'm switching ASAP. But I hope that the etude doesn't become a major issue/8 here. Sure, she may be my teacher and knows my level and capabilities better than others, but I know my limitations better than she does, so I think I need a bit more control.

10/8 is a neat choice! Id say if that is too hard, try sonatine first movement. I dont remember pavane. Lol but just make sure you start off on a good foot, talk calm and dont tell her you are thinking of quiting her right away.... Lol stay put! Also, there are other composer etudes but the romantic ones are said to be the musical ones. If you have immediate questions, holler at us! Also, Bach Bach Bach.