Composers you wish had lived shorter.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Bach, blegh!!!

And Mozart!  He has too many damn piano concertos!!!

[j_menz]

And Mozart!  

Surely he did his best. 

[mikeowski]

Bach, blegh!!!

No no no, you got it all wrong. Topic title should be: Composers you wish would live FOREVER.

We'd have like the Well-tempered clavier book 9 BWV 5629-5653. How can you not want that?

[ajspiano]

Rachmaninoff.

Scriabin.

[j_menz]

Rachmaninoff.

Scriabin.

Rachmaninoff at 6'6" could certainly have stood to be a bit shorter, but Scriabin at just over 5' surely was short enough.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Rachmaninoff at 6'6" could certainly have stood to be a bit shorter, but Scriabin at just over 5' surely was short enough.

Hahahahahaaha take that ajs!!!!!!!!

By the way, I've changed favorite composers. 

Betthoven...

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[ajspiano]

Betthoven...

Who the hell is that?

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Who the hell is that?

Yes, I'm talking about Betthoven, NOT Beethoven.

[ajspiano]

Scriabin at just over 5' surely was short enough.

You don't think dwarfism may have suited him?

[ajspiano]

Yes, I'm talking about Betthoven, NOT Beethoven.

Oh right, i know now..  he wrote "fer ellis"

[j_menz]

Yes, I'm talking about Betthoven, NOT Beethoven.

Link somthing by him. My googling only turned up typos.

[j_menz]

You don't think dwarfism may have suited him?

No. He'd have tripped over his moustache. 

[ajspiano]

Link somthing by him. My googling only turned up typos.

Perhaps he meant betthaven. The music that poker machines play is pretty spectacular.

[mikeowski]

Link somthing by him. My googling only turned up typos.

Well, google is a bit biased towards the more well-known composers it seems.
"bthovx" --> suggestions: Beethoven, Beethovenhalle Bonn,...

[j_menz]

The music that poker machines play is pretty spectacular.

And quite impressive, given that they've lost their one and only arm.

[j_menz]

google is a bit biased

Shhhhh! You know they're watching!

[ajspiano]

Shhhhh! You know they're watching!

Yes, but they are not a military dictatorship (yet) - so there are limited repercussions related to offending them.

[j_menz]

there are limited repercussions related to offending them.

Tell that to BMW and Ricoh.

https://www.seochat.com/c/a/search-engine-news/beware-the-google-death-penalty/

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Perhaps he meant betthaven. The music that poker machines play is pretty spectacular.

No but seriously though, I never thought that I would like Beethoven that much. 

Like I wanna do another of his sonatas.

And another one.

And another one.

And another one.

[chopin2015]

Bach, blegh!!!

And Mozart!  He has too many damn piano concertos!!!

What the heck did Mozart do! He had a tough death.

[ajspiano]

No but seriously though, I never thought that I would like Beethoven that much. 

beethoven is a stepping stone to bach.

Stay strong.

[chopin2015]

No but seriously though, I never thought that I would like Beethoven that much. 

Like I wanna do another of his sonatas.

And another one.

And another one.

And another one.

Omg you soo should! There are sooo many! Do as many as you can!
 

[ajspiano]

Tell that to BMW and Ricoh.

https://www.seochat.com/c/a/search-engine-news/beware-the-google-death-penalty/

They broke the google terms of service as a site administrator..   that's a little different.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Omg you soo should! There are sooo many! Do as many as you can!
 

Yeah, I wanna do all 32.

[chopin2015]

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Quote of the day, dude! Love it.  

[rachmaninoff_forever]

beethoven is a stepping stone to bach.

Stay strong.

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!

You made me freaking spit out my soup!

I already liked Beethoven a bit in the first place, it's just that I like him more, that's all.

[chopin2015]

Yeah, I wanna do all 32.

Awesome! That should be a fun journey! Dont forget piano and violin! Those are sweet!!

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Awesome! That should be a fun journey! Dont forget piano and violin! Those are sweet!!

I'm actually not too familiar with his piano and violin sonatas. 

At all.

[chopin2015]

I'm actually not too familiar with his piano and violin sonatas. 

At all.

You will like them, I bet! I dont any yet, but I assume it's helpful to learn a couple! :p

[rachmaninoff_forever]

You will like them, I bet! I dont any yet, but I assume it's helpful to learn a couple! :p

I feel you on that.  I wanna start some chamber music soon.

I don't know if that opera singer counts as chamber, but you know what I mean.

[chopin2015]

I feel you on that.  I wanna start some chamber music soon.

I don't know if that opera singer counts as chamber, but you know what I mean.

You should! It should help a lot if you wanna learn concertos thoroughly, and all that jazz. But your Beethoven project sounds awesome! Have you read his letters? He was a sweet, interesting man! (Rambles on....)

[rachmaninoff_forever]

You should! It should help a lot if you wanna learn concertos thoroughly, and all that jazz. But your Beethoven project sounds awesome! Have you read his letters? He was a sweet, interesting man! (Rambles on....)

Where the heck can you get your hands on his letters?!

[j_menz]

Where the heck can you get your hands on his letters?!

You can buy them here:

https://www.amazon.com/Beethovens-Letters-Dover-Books-Music/dp/0486227693

Or browse them here:

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/13065/13065-h/13065-h.htm

[rachmaninoff_forever]

You can buy them here:

https://www.amazon.com/Beethovens-Letters-Dover-Books-Music/dp/0486227693

Or browse them here:

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/13065/13065-h/13065-h.htm

Thanks, I'll think I'll go with the browsing.

[chopin2015]

You can buy them here:

https://www.amazon.com/Beethovens-Letters-Dover-Books-Music/dp/0486227693

Or browse them here:

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/13065/13065-h/13065-h.htm

All-about-beethoven.com/resources/beethoven_letters_1.pdf

[j_menz]

You should also be sure to listen to the Violin Concerto, the symphonies, Fidelio (and it's various overtures), Wellington's Victory, the Piano Trios, the String Quartets and the Triple Concerto.

To play, don't neglect the Bagatelles or the Variations - especially Op 126 and the Eroica and Diabelli, though leave the Diabelli until the very end - no-one is ready for it!

You might also like to look at the Liszt transcriptions of the Symphonies and, if you're feeling particularly adventurous, the Tausig transcriptions from the String Quartets.

[chopin2015]

You should also be sure to listen to the Violin Concerto, the symphonies, Fidelio (and it's various overtures), Wellington's Victory, the Piano Trios, the String Quartets and the Triple Concerto.

To play, don't neglect the Bagatelles or the Variations - especially Op 126 and the Eroica and Diabelli, though leave the Diabelli until the very end - no-one is ready for it!

You might also like to look at the Liszt transcriptions of the Symphonies and, if you're feeling particularly adventurous, the Tausig transcriptions from the String Quartets.

I also recommend looking at the Beethoven competition requirements, and pick what youre gonna learn from there, if you want to be hardcore about it.

[lateromantic]

Oh right, i know now..  he wrote "fer ellis"

He's also known for his "Ode to Joey," whoever Joey was.

[maestro94]

Salieri 

[ajspiano]

He's also known for his "Ode to Joey," whoever Joey was.

Lol..

His lesser known "pathetic sonata" never received the critical acclaim it deserved.

[andreslr6]

on topic

Chopin and Liszt!   

mwuahahahahahaha

[chopin2015]

on topic

Chopin and Liszt!   

mwuahahahahahaha

What is wrong with you?!

[andreslr6]

What is wrong with you?!

I'm very evil  

No, but these last years I've been losing my love (if not completely lost already) for Chopin's and Liszt's music, not just because it's "overplayed", but also because I've discovered other composers that I like more.

I still enjoy listening and wish to play Chopin's 4th scherzo though .

[celegorma]

Difficult topic, because most composers had their best compositions in their later years.

[chadbrochill17]

Composers such as Cage, Ligeti. They seemed to have lived forever and put out far too much junk. Music would be much better without them.

[ppianista]

I'm actually not too familiar with his piano and violin sonatas.  

At all.

Start here:

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[the_fervid_pig]

Composers such as Cage, Ligeti. They seemed to have lived forever and put out far too much junk. Music would be much better without them.

But without Cage you wouldn't get wonderful moments such as this,

A very young John Cale performing Vexations on I've got a Secret.