La campanella?

[classicalnhiphop]

what do u think of it
how hard is it?
compare it to jeax deau

[j_menz]

compare it to jeax deau

One's about water and one's about bells.  One's inspired by a work of the composer of the other. The other is based on a work by someone else. They both last about 4.40-5.00 minutes. 50 years separate their composition.

[drazh]

not important how hard it is if you like it go for it.

[pianoman53]

Fun fact: The difficult with both pieces is to push the right key at the right time, in the right way.

[david456103]

ive never played jeux d'eau, but i've played miroirs#3(which is similar, maybe a bit harder, than jeux  d eau from what i hear) and la campanella. id say that technically speaking la campanella was harder, but musically the ravel was more difficult.

[neilmix]

I've played both. La Campanella was way harder for me but incredibly rewarding. What makes it challenging is the large number of techniques you need to be proficient with to master it: wide skips, repeating notes, trills in weak fingers, chromatic scales and passages, wrist action with octaves, large jumps. Mostly just right-hand challenges, though. With the exception of the left-hand octave jumps at the finale, the left had is straightforward.

[david456103]

la campanella is harder technically than jeux d eau, but musically they are comparable in difficulty.

[nanabush]

It really depends on your strengths... typically Ravel's stuff requires a VERY subtle touch to convey the writing... typically Liszt requires a lot of Bravura... but the touch required in La Campanella kind of reminds me of that in the Ravel.

I'd probably say that because La Campanella is an etude, you'd probably run into more hurdles throughout (mostly related to jumps), and the workout on the outer fingers for the right hand is probably going to take a while... but in the Ravel, there are some articulations and pretty ridiculous cadenzas that require more than just 'bashing the notes'.

You'd probably want to look at the Ravel before the Liszt.  However, just because you see threads saying "Jeux d'Eau" is one of Ravel's easiest pieces (debatable), it is by no means EASY.  If you are comparing it to the ENTIRE sets of Tombeau, Miroirs, Gaspard, then perhaps 'Jeux d'Eau' can be considered 'easIER', but not "EASY' as in a beginner/intermediate pianist should look at it...

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Look at both; in the Liszt, try to find the 3rd entry of the B major theme... that will give you a good idea of the technique you will have to bring to learn this piece.  Also, check out the variation with the 4-5 trills (I tried messing with 3-5-4-5, but my RH can stretch quite a bit).

For the Ravel, I find it more of an exercise in reading... the harmonies are more obscure, and it's a little harder to retain some of the passagework IMO.  So, it's really difficult in a different way (for me).  Playing both at a VERY SLOW tempo, I'd probably have a harder time sight reading the Ravel.

But ya... both are AWESOME pieces.  Try not grading pieces in the same way people would grade levels in a video game... the repertoire at the level of both these pieces is VERY expansive.  Some have easier moments, some are brutal.  You'll find instances of both of those cases in these two pieces.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

La Campanella is high maintenance. 

Do whichever one you like best.

Or learn them both!

[gyzzzmo]

Just start practising it. Comparing it with a piece like that is pointless, since everybody has his own strengths and weaknesses.