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Luigi Carroccia
Galina Chistiakova
Seong-Jin Cho
Chi Ho Han
Aljoša Jurinić
Su Yeon Kim
Dinara Klinton
Aimi Kobayashi
Marek Kozák
Łukasz Krupiński
Krzysztof Książek
Kate Liu
Eric Lu
Szymon Nehring
Georgijs Osokins
Charles Richard-Hamelin
Dmitry Shishkin
Alexei Tartakovsky
Zi Xu
Yike (Tony) Yang

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« on: October 13, 2015, 02:52:58 PM »

Let's see who can guess it beforehand. I think you all know who I am voting for lol Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2015, 03:01:18 PM »

i'm never gonna (be able to)


guess this right

never gonna figure out

never gonna call the winner , of the ICC
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2015, 03:14:32 PM »

I think Kate has a good chance if she plays like she did in Round 2 consistently.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2015, 10:57:03 PM »

 Kate, Eric, Cho are good contenders, Kate a little less so since her playing is rather "individualistic." Hamelin is not the most "marketable" contestant, (when it comes to stage presence).but he could probably win. Shishkin could too, but they are probably looking for deeper players.

Who will not win the Chopin competition? Probably Aimi (sorry Pencilart)... Her playing is unfortunately somewhat sloppy (only somewhat, but it makes it hard to enjoy some pieces, e.g. her Barcarolle and op. 53. She did pull herself together in the op. 45 though.) It's also not very consistent; perhaps if she plays everything in the 3rd round as refined and consistently as her op. 45, she could win it.
Not Tony because he's waaaay too young (he's a high school senior!) and again prolly not deep enough.
Not Carroccia- inconsistent...
Who else is really worth mentioning? tbh they're all "nice" players, but only a few play with exceptional level of detail, spiritual depth; only a handful play with "personal touches" while still connecting to the audience (e.g. Kate)...

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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2015, 11:00:19 PM »

Seong-jin Cho or Eric Lu. Maybe Kate Liu.

And maybe the other people, but I haven't heard them play, soo I cant say.

I don't think the judges will give the prize to an American, though.
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2015, 11:16:27 PM »


Who will not win the Chopin competition? Probably Aimi (sorry Pencilart)... Her playing is unfortunately somewhat sloppy (only somewhat, but it makes it hard to enjoy some pieces, e.g. her Barcarolle and op. 53. She did pull herself together in the op. 45 though.) It's also not very consistent; perhaps if she plays everything in the 3rd round as refined and consistently as her op. 45, she could win it.

Yeah when they kicked Ivett Gyongyosi Olof Hansen out,  I realized this was not a beauty contest.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2015, 12:17:59 AM »

Who will not win the Chopin competition? Probably Aimi (sorry Pencilart)...

I agree. I thought everyone here knew I was Eric Lu all the way. Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2015, 12:26:57 AM »

I agree. I thought everyone here knew I was Eric Lu all the way. Cheesy
Yeah, but the judges wont give the prize to an AMERICAN.

Why?

Because they made the mistake of giving a prestigious European prize to Van Cliburn, and now they believe that America owes them. So they will not give the prize to an American,. even if they deserve it.

Eric Lu deserves it.

But he's not just American, he's CHINESE American. That doubles the trouble. If he was a Chinese, he might win, and if he was an American with a nice pro-sounding name (such as Eric ZUBER), he has a chance, but when you add an American first name with a Chinese/Korean last name together, it's double trouble.




So that's why I think Seong-jin Cho will win, even though I like Eric Lu.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2015, 12:47:01 AM »

The better pianist prevails in the end.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2015, 01:33:08 AM »

The better pianist prevails in the end.

Avdeeda?
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2015, 02:04:41 AM »

She has some nice preludes...

The better pianist usually prevails in the end.
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2015, 02:07:57 AM »

She has some nice preludes...


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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2015, 03:26:00 AM »

Just listened to Galina Chistiakova's Chopin op. 42 :O it's so noble and aristocratic! there are few sharp edges in her playing... and the Waltz rhythm is so well-controlled in the left hand! Perhaps she could win, or at least go into the finals, for her unique style...
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2015, 03:32:44 AM »

@schumaniac yes, she has a very unique style. I don't think she can compare with Lu or Liu Or Lui Or Luigi or Liiu or Luii or Lugii or whatever Grin
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2015, 03:36:50 AM »

@schumaniac yes, she has a very unique style. I don't think she can compare with Lu or Liu Or Lui Or Luigi or Liiu or Luii or Lugii or whatever Grin
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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2015, 04:14:54 AM »

I am disappointed with Aimi's rep.
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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2015, 04:22:52 AM »

I am disappointed with Aimi's rep.
Why, cause she's playing the second sonata??
Too lazy to look it up lol
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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2015, 04:26:51 AM »

Why, cause she's playing the second sonata??
Too lazy to look it up lol

Yeah... sonata 2, a scherzo that I've listened to a ton lately, the STUPID RONDO OP. 16, and a mazurka set I don't like that much. Huh Huh Huh
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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2015, 04:39:55 AM »

Yeah... sonata 2, a scherzo that I've listened to a ton lately, the STUPID RONDO OP. 16, and a mazurka set I don't like that much. Huh Huh Huh
Which scherzo is that and which mazurkas are those Grin
The Rondo op. 16 is a good piece if it's played well (e.g. by Fei Fei Dong in the 2010 Chopin and 2013 Cliburn)! And the melody is actually quite charming!
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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2015, 08:01:06 PM »

Which scherzo is that and which mazurkas are those Grin
The Rondo op. 16 is a good piece if it's played well (e.g. by Fei Fei Dong in the 2010 Chopin and 2013 Cliburn)! And the melody is actually quite charming!

Haha didn't you see her today? And yes I found the Rondo very interesting when she played it. Haha Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2015, 08:35:44 PM »

Yeah... sonata 2, a scherzo that I've listened to a ton lately, the STUPID RONDO OP. 16, and a mazurka set I don't like that much. Huh Huh Huh

Yeah... sonata 2, a scherzo that I've listened to a ton lately, the STUPID RONDO OP. 16, and a mazurka set I don't like that much. Huh Huh Huh

That Rondo is annoying. I prefer the Rondo a Mazur.
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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2015, 11:56:36 PM »

That Rondo is annoying. I prefer the Rondo a Mazur.
you're annoying!

want some ice for that burn? OOOHOHOHOHOHO
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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2015, 11:59:13 PM »

you're annoying!

want some ice for that burn? OOOHOHOHOHOHO

I need no ice, I need some fire.
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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2015, 12:01:29 AM »

I need no ice, I need some fire.
that made no sense

btw how do you do the font size thing? I thought it was [ size =  ] but it seems like it's not. or do I have to write "size=2pt?" yeah maybe
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« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2015, 12:05:57 AM »

Here are the 20 Semifinalists Music Schools for you to Analise:


Luigi Carrocia- Claudio Monteverdi Conservatory
Galina Christakova- Moscow Conservatory 1993-2005; Incontri col Maestro Academy (current)
Seong-jin Cho- Paris Conservatory
Chi Ho Han- School of Performing Arts (Seoul);Folkwang University of Arts (Essen); Lake Como Academy; Hannover Conservatory/Hoschule(current)
Aljosa Jurinc-  Scuolo di Musica (Fresola, 2011-14); Hochschule fur Musik Franz Liszt (Weimar, current)
Su Yeon Kim- Institute for Artistically Talented Pupils (2007-10); Korea National University of the Arts; Mozarteum(Salzburg, current)
Dinara Klinton- Moscow Conservatory; Royal School of Music
Aimi Kobayashi- Curtis Institute of Music
Marek Kozak- Leo Janacek Conservatory; Prague Academy of Performinc Arts (current);
Lukasz Krupinski- Zenon Brzewski Secondary School of Music (Warsaw); Frederick Chopin University of Music (Warsaw, current)
Krzysztof Ksiazek- Bydgoszcz Music Academy
Kate Liu- Chicago Institute of Music; Curtis Institute of Music (current)
Eric Lu- New England Conservatory- Prepatory School; Curtis Institute of Music;
Szymon Nehrig- Bydgoszcz Music Academy
Georgis Osokins- Juillard School (he's a freshman)
Charles Richard-Hamelin- McGill University; Yale School of Music;
Dmitry Shishkin- Pyotr Tchaikovsky School (Chelyabinsk); Gressin School (Moscow); Moscow Conservaotry (current);
Alexei- Tartakovsky- Eleanor Sokoloff & Marcantonio Barone; Matti Raekallio(Juillard School?))Nina Lelchuk(Queen's College?); Boris Slutsky (Peabody Conservaotry) Boris Berman (Yale University?, current)
Zi Xu- Bydgoszcz School of Music;Bydgoszcz Music Academy (current);
Tony Yike Yang- Royal School in Toronto (I think?); Juillard School Pre-College(current)
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« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2015, 01:00:18 AM »

Aimi Kobayashi- Curtis Institute of Music

There's only one person on that list whom I would want to know where they go to school. Wink
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« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2015, 01:19:04 AM »

So far these were the people that were voted for:

Eric Lu (2 votes)- New England Prep School; Curtis Insitute
Kate Liu (2 votes)- Chicago Institute; Curtis Institute;
Seong-jin Cho- Paris Conservatoire
C. Richard-Hamelin- McGill University; Yale School of Music
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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2015, 04:17:48 AM »

What a geek^
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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2015, 04:45:58 AM »

nobody else is voting
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« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2015, 12:52:46 PM »

There's only one person on that list whom I would want to know where they go to school. Wink

That's unbelievably creepy dude.
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« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2015, 01:50:56 PM »

That's unbelievably creepy dude.

LOL I know I was trying to be to start an uproar... there wasn't really one unfortunately.
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« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2015, 04:51:54 PM »

Eric Lu's preludes didn't hurt my guess. Cheesy
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« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2015, 05:03:51 PM »

They were so good man
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« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2015, 06:29:59 PM »

gosh Osokins was so dang good lol
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« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2015, 07:50:31 PM »

gosh Osokins was so dang good lol

gosh Osokins was so dang good lol

Yeah, but that's because he's only been at Juillard for ONE MONTH.

Hes so lucky hes competing now instead of 2020 Tongue
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« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2015, 08:13:19 PM »

Yeah, but that's because he's only been at Juillard for ONE MONTH.

Hes so lucky hes competing now instead of 2020 Tongue

Yeah, but that's because he's only been at Juillard for ONE MONTH.

Hes so lucky hes competing now instead of 2020 Tongue

Double quoting is the new fad nowadays huh?
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« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2015, 08:30:04 PM »

Double quoting is the new fad nowadays huh?
Double quoting is the new fad nowadays huh?
Double quoting is the new fad nowadays huh?

No, it's all about triple quoting now.
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« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2015, 08:44:11 PM »

No, it's all about triple quoting now.

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« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2015, 08:47:23 PM »


yay somebody else voted.
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« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2015, 08:48:42 PM »













yay somebody else voted.

Still, Eric Lu > Kate Liu
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« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2015, 12:26:26 AM »

All right, after listening to Eric Lu's Preludes, I have said:


Best of luck to Cho... but ERIC LU ALL THE WAY ! ! !! !  ! !
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« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2015, 12:32:13 AM »

Yeah, but that's because he's only been at Juillard for ONE MONTH.

Hes so lucky hes competing now instead of 2020 Tongue
wow, so Juilliard really does kill your soul huh?

I react so strongly to these comments, b/c Juilliard had always been my "goal"
Cri

And the alternative is two buildings on the corner of some street in the middle of a disgusting wannabe big city... ew...
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« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2015, 12:34:27 AM »

Juilliard is a good school...

Yeah Eric Lu really killed it out there. What a guy
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« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2015, 12:40:30 AM »

Juilliard is a good school...

Yeah Eric Lu really killed it out there. What a guy
I agree with both statements Tongue
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« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2015, 12:42:10 AM »

wow, so Juilliard really does kill your soul huh?

I react so strongly to these comments, b/c Juilliard had always been my "goal"
Cri

And the alternative is two buildings on the corner of some street in the middle of a disgusting wannabe big city... ew...

Why not the Moscow Conservatory  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2015, 12:44:20 AM »

Why not the Moscow Conservatory  Roll Eyes

Tu es si stupide, tu ne connais pas le grande Moscou Conservatoire? Baise tu.
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as for the Moscow Conservatory... Russia and Russian winters are not for me... and who are the good teachers there anyways? the students that participated in competitions? yeah, there are some guys with good videos on YouTube like V. Grzyanov but they're not internationally famous...
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« Reply #46 on: October 16, 2015, 12:46:44 AM »

You know... It's pretty funny, because the Russian school has very little focus on Russian repertoire. They center a lot of attention around French and Germanic repertoire.
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« Reply #47 on: October 16, 2015, 12:47:11 AM »

stop

as for the Moscow Conservatory... Russia and Russian winters are not for me... and who are the good teachers there anyways? the students that participated in competitions? yeah, there are some guys with good videos on YouTube like V. Grzyanov but they're not internationally famous...

At least most of the well-liked famous pianists are from some Russian Conservatories....

Name one pianist from Juillard, BESIDES THE TERRIBLE CLIBURN, who was more celebrated than..... ummm....... Kissin, Trifonov, etc.

Emmanuel Ax is not one of them, even though he is pretty famous.
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« Reply #48 on: October 16, 2015, 12:48:28 AM »

At least most of the well-liked famous pianists are from some Russian Conservatories....

Name one pianist from Juillard, BESIDES THE TERRIBLE CLIBURN, who was more celebrated than..... ummm....... Kissin, Trifonov, etc.

Emmanuel Ax is not one of them, even though he is pretty famous.
dang this is hard
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« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2015, 12:50:00 AM »

You know... It's pretty funny, because the Russian school has very little focus on Russian repertoire. They center a lot of attention around French and Germanic repertoire.

what the freak

Le musique russe est plus elegante. Brahms, Beethoven, Faure..... Ils ne sont pas elegant.

But yeah, my new teacher is from Russia, and a lot of her concerts feature Ravel Tongue
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