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The Mazurka Prize in the 17th international Chopin Competition (Read 1531 times)

Offline chopinawesome

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I have noticed in most of the past 2 competitions the winner of this prize plays the OP.56 set(Rafal Blechacz, Daniil Trifonov, and Kate Liu). Is this a coincidence or does the jury favor the Op.56 set?
Beethoven Op 2/2
Chopin Op 20, maybe op 47/38
Debussy Etude 7
Grieg Op 16
Want to do:
Chopin Concerti 1 and 2
Beethoven Waldstein
Ravel Miroirs

Offline piulento

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Re: The Mazurka Prize in the 17th international Chopin Competition
«Reply #1 on: April 03, 2016, 06:38:35 PM »
I noticed that too...
The reason for this (I'm guessing) is that this is such a mature and complex set of mazurkas, that if a pianist can really pull off all three, he really is something special. I've listened to dozens of pianists play this set, but finding a pianist that can play them really well (especially no. 3) is truely a rare occasion. There is also so so much room for imagination in this set, that it really gives a pianist the proper stage to show his wide range of musical expressions.
What do you think?

Offline ignaceii

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Re: The Mazurka Prize in the 17th international Chopin Competition
«Reply #2 on: April 03, 2016, 08:28:38 PM »
Having a wide range of musical expression based on a Mazurka set.
Ahhhhh... What else ?
A mazurka is a mazurka. If you have the rhythm and the rubato in your hands you do well in Chopin. I say in Chopin... Is this a WIDE musical expression.
Go and listen to the other blockbuster competitions... They create the wide musical artist.

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Re: The Mazurka Prize in the 17th international Chopin Competition
«Reply #3 on: April 04, 2016, 04:12:17 AM »
I noticed that too...
The reason for this (I'm guessing) is that this is such a mature and complex set of mazurkas, that if a pianist can really pull off all three, he really is something special. I've listened to dozens of pianists play this set, but finding a pianist that can play them really well (especially no. 3) is truely a rare occasion. There is also so so much room for imagination in this set, that it really gives a pianist the proper stage to show his wide range of musical expressions.
What do you think?

This set of mazurkas might be the most difficult set of mazurkas, followed by Op.50 and 59. The B Major one is sort of not like a mazurka(except the piu mosso section), so it does leave lots of room for imagination. The C Major is one of my favorite mazurkas. To create the right crispy tone for the a minor scale section and the dreamy feeling for the C Major Passage section, it could be difficult. the c minor one is very expressive.  Listen to Kate Liu describe this set:http://video.nhptv.org/video/2365602493/
Beethoven Op 2/2
Chopin Op 20, maybe op 47/38
Debussy Etude 7
Grieg Op 16
Want to do:
Chopin Concerti 1 and 2
Beethoven Waldstein
Ravel Miroirs

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Re: The Mazurka Prize in the 17th international Chopin Competition
«Reply #4 on: April 04, 2016, 08:19:25 PM »
Listen to Kate Liu describe this set:http://video.nhptv.org/video/2365602493/

I can't decide what impresses me more - how well she plays or how profoundly she understands Chopin's music.
She was definitely one of my favorites in the competition - partially because of how she played this incredible set.

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Re: The Mazurka Prize in the 17th international Chopin Competition
«Reply #5 on: April 05, 2016, 03:18:15 AM »
I agree. Op.56 is not popular. In fact, almost all the mazurkas are not popular. Though some people love those big pieces(sonatas,scherzi,etc.), I love his smaller works, such as his mazurkas,preludes, and etudes(I still like some of his big works). Also, people underestimate how difficult a mazurka or prelude can be. For me, Mazurka OP.56 no.1 and PReludes Nos.3 and 14 are as hard as Op.1 or even  harder. It is a pleasure Kate Liu chose to perform the Op.56 set of mazurkas.
Beethoven Op 2/2
Chopin Op 20, maybe op 47/38
Debussy Etude 7
Grieg Op 16
Want to do:
Chopin Concerti 1 and 2
Beethoven Waldstein
Ravel Miroirs

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Re: The Mazurka Prize in the 17th international Chopin Competition
«Reply #6 on: April 05, 2016, 03:20:28 AM »
Oh, and the jury also favors the OP.33 set. Ka LIng Colleen Li could have won the mazurka prize in 2005 but since I guess Blechacz played the Op.56 set almost perfectly, he won.
Beethoven Op 2/2
Chopin Op 20, maybe op 47/38
Debussy Etude 7
Grieg Op 16
Want to do:
Chopin Concerti 1 and 2
Beethoven Waldstein
Ravel Miroirs

Offline ignaceii

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Re: The Mazurka Prize in the 17th international Chopin Competition
«Reply #7 on: July 29, 2016, 06:12:41 PM »
Chopin is not a competition. It is a salon of Chopin players.
Anyone else, non-Chopin players not invited.
The mazurka price !. Goodness me.

Go to the Liszt competition then. Fireworks guaranteed.

Still however not a Moscow, Leeds, Queen Elisabeth or von Cliburn.
These are the grand slams.

Chopin is a tier 1 or 2 ...in tennis terms.
Label managers never get it. Too commercial

Offline rubinsteinmad

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Re: The Mazurka Prize in the 17th international Chopin Competition
«Reply #8 on: July 30, 2016, 02:35:58 AM »
Chopin is not a competition. It is a salon of Chopin players.
Anyone else, non-Chopin players not invited.
The mazurka price !. Goodness me.

Go to the Liszt competition then. Fireworks guaranteed.

Still however not a Moscow, Leeds, Queen Elisabeth or von Cliburn.
These are the grand slams.

Chopin is a tier 1 or 2 ...in tennis terms.
Label managers never get it. Too commercial



WILL YOU PLEASE SHUT THE F*CK UP