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Offline amee

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Bach Double Violin Concerto
on: April 01, 2003, 07:31:34 AM
Recently my friend played me the Bach Double Violin Concerto and I was intrigued by the clarity and counterpoint between the two violins.  Does anyone know anything about the Bach Violin Concertos?  
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Re: Bach Double Violin Concerto
Reply #1 on: April 01, 2003, 10:44:56 AM
Hi amee,

Bach wrote 4 violin concertos, i think.
One of them is for 2 violins in Dminor, i think
I also know some of his keyboard concertos came from his violin concertos, i think
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Re: Bach Double Violin Concerto
Reply #2 on: April 01, 2003, 12:15:26 PM


 hey amee.

     I'm not sure if I played the Bach double violin concerto you've mentioned.... The one I played with the orchestra part reduced to piano was excellent, if I can remember clearly, Bach used a lot of homophonic texture between the 2 violins, and a lot of imitation, sequences as well in the piece... Is this the one you're talking about? I remember the very powerful and almost vivaldi-furious like d pedal points.....I really like double concertos, for violin, flute, anything...
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Re: Bach Double Violin Concerto
Reply #3 on: April 02, 2003, 02:27:44 AM
amee, Bach's concertos are mostly reconstructions of each other, the double violin concerto was also trasncribed as a double keyboard concerto in c minor, the triple violin concerto in d major has been reconstructed from the triple keyboard concerto, because the original manuscript has been lost, in fact only about half of Bachs concertos are in their original form, the other half have been remade from concertos for other instruments,

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Offline amee

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Re: Bach Double Violin Concerto
Reply #4 on: April 02, 2003, 07:24:42 AM
Yeah, the one my friend played was in D minor.  
This is the first double concerto I've heard that's not out of a CD and I am amazed!  It's so beautiful how the melody weaves into each other...somehow it is different hearing it from a CD then actually hearing it in front of me.
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Re: Bach Double Violin Concerto
Reply #5 on: April 11, 2003, 12:16:29 AM
Hi, amee!

Your post about Bach's Double Violin Concerto caught my attention.

I don't know just how each of Bach's concertos originated, but I do know that Bach would often recycle his own or other composers' material by transfering music from one medim to another.  This, I think, was a common practice during the Baroque era and throughout the history of western music for that matter.

I would be interested to know more about your friend's performance of the piece.  Was this a performance with orchestra, a reduced version (e. g., violins and piano), or what?

I have a recording of this piece but I've never heard it performed live.  After what you've had to say about it I can't wait to hear it without a stereo system in the way!

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Offline amee

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Re: Bach Double Violin Concerto
Reply #6 on: April 11, 2003, 06:23:57 AM
Hey Thomas!

My friend performed a reduced version with another violin and a piano.  The other violinist was actually her twin sister!  They are both amazing at the violin.
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Re: Bach Double Violin Concerto
Reply #7 on: April 14, 2003, 08:08:08 AM
hey amee ;D
i kno excatly what u r torking about, i have played it myself! it has 3 movements and i recently heard the 3rd movement played by an australian youth orchestra, but instead of 2 violins it was a violin and a clarinet! it is 1 of mi favourite duets on the violin. the first movement is in the suzuki violin school repertoire, r ur twin friends suzuki? where did they play it?

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Re: Bach Double Violin Concerto
Reply #8 on: April 14, 2003, 08:14:06 AM
hey natasha ;)

Yup they are Suzuki.  They played it in a school assembly in front of everyone.  
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Re: Bach Double Violin Concerto
Reply #9 on: April 14, 2003, 12:15:33 PM
wow!! im suzuki to, at least im suzuki trained. How kute! twins!! i have an older sister and i play it with her alot. i normally do the 2 violin part. school assembly..how cool!! tell them they shud b proud of theirselves :)

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Re: Bach Double Violin Concerto
Reply #10 on: April 15, 2003, 09:53:47 AM
i know that piece!!!!!....but actually it isnt a reduced version, if it is in the suziki book, its the actual thing!!!!!
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Re: Bach Double Violin Concerto
Reply #11 on: May 23, 2007, 05:12:28 PM
Guys this is the oldest piece in the anything but piano part. Awww, isn't that sweet. Does any one remember it? Any one? It was posted over 4 years ago.
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Re: Bach Double Violin Concerto
Reply #12 on: May 27, 2007, 06:19:33 AM
they're a LOT easier than the bach keyboard concerti. The double that you speak of is standard issue, usually played after about a year of study. Although as with all bach, extremely difficult to perfect.

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Re: Bach Double Violin Concerto
Reply #13 on: May 30, 2007, 02:49:50 AM
The second movement of the d minor is a canon.  I think one of Bach's loveliest movements is the slow movement of the E major concerto.
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