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_piano_angel

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Piano concerto that can be learned quickly and has a simple orchestra part?

on: June 24, 2018, 03:47:07 PM

Hello everyone

Is here anyone, who knows a piano concerto which fits what is written in the subject?
I've been learning Rachmaninov's second for a while but my teacher told me that this one would be too hard for the school orchestra, so I would most likely not get the chance to play it with an orchestra for a while.
Because I want to have some experience with that before applying to a music school, I still wanted to learn one that maybe also isn't that hard and can be learned in a short amount of time and is easy to play for the orchestra, so that I could actually get a chance to play it

I kind of like Mozart's 21st and Shostakowitsch's second but I don't really know $:-\$
If someone has recommendations, please tell me

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blazekenny

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Re: Piano concerto that can be learned quickly and has a simple orchestra part?

Reply #1 on: June 24, 2018, 08:44:52 PM

Quote from: _piano_angel on June 24, 2018, 03:47:07 PM

Hello everyone
Is here anyone, who knows a piano concerto which fits what is written in the subject?
I've been learning Rachmaninov's second for a while but my teacher told me that this one would be too hard for the school orchestra, so I would most likely not get the chance to play it with an orchestra for a while.
Because I want to have some experience with that before applying to a music school, I still wanted to learn one that maybe also isn't that hard and can be learned in a short amount of time and is easy to play for the orchestra, so that I could actually get a chance to play it
I kind of like Mozart's 21st and Shostakowitsch's second but I don't really know $:-\$
If someone has recommendations, please tell me

Grieg, Liszt E flat ?

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_piano_angel

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Re: Piano concerto that can be learned quickly and has a simple orchestra part?

Reply #2 on: June 25, 2018, 05:32:57 PM

Quote from: blazekenny on June 24, 2018, 08:44:52 PM

Grieg, Liszt E flat ?

I don't really like the Grieg but I'll check out the Liszt concerto, so thanks

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Messiaen vingt regards No.2
Beethoven sonata op.7
Schumann Abegg variations

dogperson

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Re: Piano concerto that can be learned quickly and has a simple orchestra part?

Reply #3 on: June 25, 2018, 10:41:49 PM

Check out pisnosyllabus.com
Bach concertos at Grade 6, Haydn at Grade 7 ...., both are graded easier than Grieg and Liszt

Sorry, I have not played any of them

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visitor

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Reply #4 on: June 26, 2018, 01:00:07 AM

what are the parameters? single movement? whole thing? total play time limit ? dies it need to be a true concerto ? do you have access to the wind band vs just strings?

ie this is super cool, easyish and short
https://vimeo.com/21395580
its brevity is part of why it challenging for the ensemble , but a rad enjoyable work nonetheless

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blazekenny

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Re: Piano concerto that can be learned quickly and has a simple orchestra part?

Reply #5 on: June 26, 2018, 01:16:23 PM

Quote from: dogperson on June 25, 2018, 10:41:49 PM

Check out pisnosyllabus.com
Bach concertos at Grade 6, Haydn at Grade 7 ...., both are graded easier than Grieg and Liszt

Sorry, I have not played any of them

To be honest, I also struggled quite a bit with the Liszt concerto, especially the fourth movement. But I know a lot of people who learned it as their first concerto and didn't have any major problems with it.

Also, it is fairly short and relatively easy for the orchestra.

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rachmaninoff_forever

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Re: Piano concerto that can be learned quickly and has a simple orchestra part?

Reply #6 on: June 26, 2018, 07:27:19 PM

If you're just gonna do a movement one of the Chopin concertos could do.

Except the orchestra part might bore the ensemble to death

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_piano_angel

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Re: Piano concerto that can be learned quickly and has a simple orchestra part?

Reply #7 on: June 26, 2018, 09:28:17 PM

Thanks for all the answers, I'll check out the ones written about

I think a whole concerto is more likely, but it could be that a single movement is fine too. I think they have both and it would be better if it's a concerto although it really depends and shouldn't be too long, not over 40 minutes at least.

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Chopin etudes: 10/1, 10/2, 10/4
Messiaen vingt regards No.2
Beethoven sonata op.7
Schumann Abegg variations

jinfiesto

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Re: Piano concerto that can be learned quickly and has a simple orchestra part?

Reply #8 on: September 26, 2018, 11:41:20 PM

Bach D minor. You can almost play it with a string quartet.

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