Look, lostinidlewonder, doesn't mean you've never heard of somethings means that it doesn't exist.
If you say you haven't played a piece and say nothing else that doesn't imply that you might have played some of it. If you have played some of it you have played some of the piece, you don't say you haven't played the piece. You say you have played some of it but not the entire piece. Instead you clearly said you haven't played it, now try to add that you have learned 6 pages, the reason you want to add that is because you wanted to make your story about some French technique more believable, it however does not add to your credibility at all and does the opposite.
You're saying I am backstepping, but you've never answered any of my questions yourself.
Illogical connection between what I meant by backstepping. You are trying to change your story when you already created a situation. You said you didn't play either piece at all and you trust your very experienced teachers who tell you Islamey is more difficult than Gaspard. Now you have some other ideas to try and push your story, some secret french technique to master the gaspard much easier!! Of course you needed to add some experience with the Islamey, yeah 6 pages should be enough, however I have caught these holes in your story, you just can't patch them up unfortunately.
When I asked you to show your musical knowledge with Bach, Mahler and Shubert, you avoided it.
It is irrelevant, we have much more exciting things to discuss like why Islamey isn't as difficult as the Scarbo.
When I gave you the reasoning that Ravel's intention is a rumor, you avoided it as well.
Provide sources that it is a rumor, there is plenty of sources saying it is true, sorry you lose.
You should also learn to face topics that you have no chance of explaining.
And what might that be? I can easily show Scarbo is more difficult than Islamey, anyone who wants to be more concrete and debate me with exact bars we can show the workloads of both and Scarbo will always come out as being more difficult and time consuming.
When you say I am insulting you, you should look at yourself and see if you are any better.
I don't even care that you are insulting me, it, just as dogperson pointed out, crumbles your reputation unfortunately. If you want to start again and actually be more concrete in debating that Islamey is more difficult than Scarbo go ahead, but you cannot since you already admitted you cannot play either piece. You just don't have to insert yourself into this debate, I am fired up for anyone who wants to be concrete with actual examples to contrast, let's do it. I don't need to present it first because lets see someone who actually believes Islamey is more difficult AND has the knowledge to show it in the music, then we will have an interesting discussion although I will be able to demonstrate that Scarbo is more difficult with juxtapositioning of examples.
French technique is not the France's way, but the old French Master's way. French masters invented such technique and passed it down. They were the heads of the Paris Conservator so that's why its passed down till today. If you ask french people, they will be confused because it is not a technique of their country. The technique belongs to Paris Conservator where it is passed down.
Fantasy thinking where is evidence that french pianists play with a technique no other pianists in the world can learn without this insider type knowledge. Maybe if you lived in the old days, but we are living in the Information Age!
I don't make things up, I read and experience these and that's where I got my information. It doesn't mean you are uneducated in such matters symbolize that I am making things up.
Don't blame me I am abrupt with you, you started on a wrong foot and now your idea of French style of playing is just some made up story, how else can one put it! You cannot demonstrate how there is specific french way of teaching Ravel's Gaspard which makes it easier as you claimed.
Made up claim: Ravel requires french technique, and once you've been trained by a french way of teaching, Scarbo is and the entire Gaspard will be quite comfortable.
Topic: Has anyone learned both gaspard and islamey