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Offline glenngulda

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Chopin Etudes op.10 nr.1/12
on: August 21, 2025, 09:30:44 PM
Hello,
I'm new here and would like to post a recording of myself. These are the first recordings I've ever made semi-professionally. It's the first time I've worked with a sound engineer and published a video of myself. After tearing a tendon in my left hand, I started practicing Etude Op. 10 No. 1 at the beginning of the year because I needed something challenging for my right hand, so I chose this extremely difficult etude. There are many things I would change now and I would emphasize the tone lines better and more consistently, but I have partially succeeded in giving the piece a certain musical shape.
I could have done better with the left hand, but hopefully someone here will like it anyway.
I took up the Etude op. 10 no. 12 again after my tendon tear had healed in order to train my hand again. So I also made a recording of it. I don't like it as much (there is always a lack of space or time and dynamic shaping of important moments at certain points), but there are also good moments in it, so I can show it.
This is the first time in many years that I show my pianoplaying in public (apart from concerts), so please be kind with your comments.

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Re: Chopin Etudes op.10 nr.1/12
Reply #1 on: August 21, 2025, 10:05:54 PM
Just listened to Op 10 no 1.  Fantastic!  Very musically done - played just the way I like to hear it!  Came in just under 2 minutes makes this the perfect tempo.  I haven't heard many better than your performance.  Congratulations!

Edit: Listened a 2nd time: For example at 0:22 you have a nice change in sound that I like but it could have been a little more pronounced, maybe make the change last a little longer?  You're off to a great start!  You identified things to polish this into a top-notch performance.  At minute marker 1:31 the change to crisper sound that you do is nicely done.  This crisper sound here matches what I've heard by world class performers.

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Re: Chopin Etudes op.10 nr.1/12
Reply #2 on: August 21, 2025, 10:30:21 PM
Just listened to Op 10 no 1.  Fantastic!  Very musically done - played just the way I like to hear it!  Came in just under 2 minutes makes this the perfect tempo.  I haven't heard many better than your performance.  Congratulations!

Edit: Listened a 2nd time: For example at 0:22 you have a nice change in sound that I like but it could have been a little more pronounced.  You're off to a great start!  You identified things to polish this into a top-notch performance.

Hey, thanks for the appreciation and your kind and supportive words! That's really nice of you and means a lot to me!
And yes, you're absolutely right: the part at 0:22 (the A minor part) sounds very good when played "subito piano" and with a different tone color. I usually try to do that, but on the day of the recording, it somehow didn't work out... I was very focused on the drive and energy... Thanks for pointing that out!

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Re: Chopin Etudes op.10 nr.1/12
Reply #3 on: August 21, 2025, 10:35:31 PM
Sorry I was editing as you responded.  Added: "At minute marker 1:31 the change to crisper sound that you do is nicely done.  This crisper sound here matches what I've heard by world class performers."

I'm sure you must have heard another pianist do that here.  I could go through my 10 different pianists that I have CD's playing complete op 10 and op 25 to tell you who else did this.  WELL DONE!

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Re: Chopin Etudes op.10 nr.1/12
Reply #4 on: August 21, 2025, 10:55:20 PM
Sorry I was editing as you responded.  Added: "At minute marker 1:31 the change to crisper sound that you do is nicely done.  This crisper sound here matches what I've heard by world class performers."

I'm sure you must have heard another pianist do that here.  I could go through my 10 different pianists that I have CD's playing complete op 10 and op 25 to tell you who else did this.  WELL DONE!

You noticed the crisp sound at 1:31 very well. It's true that I came up with the idea of playing it that way quite early on when I was rehearsing. It somehow fits the moment in the etude and the harmonic context. It was only later that I heard this idea implemented on a other recording, but I can't remember who it was. The same thing happened to me with something else. I was thrilled to discover that I could bring out the hidden melody by emphasizing the second and fourth quarter notes in each measure (which I unfortunately didn't manage to do consistently enough on the recording) and that I hadn't heard anyone else do this before. But then, later, when I had already learned it, I discovered that many pianists do the same thing.
Thanks again for your feedback!

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Re: Chopin Etudes op.10 nr.1/12
Reply #5 on: August 21, 2025, 11:20:24 PM
You noticed the crisp sound at 1:31 very well. It's true that I came up with the idea of playing it that way quite early on when I was rehearsing. It somehow fits the moment in the etude and the harmonic context. It was only later that I heard this idea implemented on a other recording, but I can't remember who it was. The same thing happened to me with something else. I was thrilled to discover that I could bring out the hidden melody by emphasizing the second and fourth quarter notes in each measure (which I unfortunately didn't manage to do consistently enough on the recording) and that I hadn't heard anyone else do this before. But then, later, when I had already learned it, I discovered that many pianists do the same thing.
Thanks again for your feedback!

My ear loves what you did at 1:31 and other places!  If you discovered musical ideas on your own or you unconsciously copied from someone, it makes no difference to me!!  That's what's done in the world of art.  Composers imitate other composers, etc.  I hear late Beethoven quartets in many movements or passages of Schumann quartets.  I hear Brahms' quartets in the Cesar Franck quartet.  But this is no surprise!!  Schumann was studying late Beethoven quartets when he wrote his quartets.  Franck was studying Brahms' quartets when he wrote his single quartet masterpiece.  This does not take away from the greatness of these works!  Again, congratulations!!  :)

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Re: Chopin Etudes op.10 nr.1/12
Reply #6 on: August 22, 2025, 09:05:14 AM
My ear loves what you did at 1:31 and other places!  If you discovered musical ideas on your own or you unconsciously copied from someone, it makes no difference to me!!  That's what's done in the world of art.  Composers imitate other composers, etc.  I hear late Beethoven quartets in many movements or passages of Schumann quartets.  I hear Brahms' quartets in the Cesar Franck quartet.  But this is no surprise!!  Schumann was studying late Beethoven quartets when he wrote his quartets.  Franck was studying Brahms' quartets when he wrote his single quartet masterpiece.  This does not take away from the greatness of these works!  Again, congratulations!!  :)

Thanks!
And what you write is very good... artistic ideas and artistic elements are somehow outside the individual. That's what makes art so timeless... We don't invent, we only discover... Even those who create completely new things... That's a great insight.

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Re: Chopin Etudes op.10 nr.1/12
Reply #7 on: August 22, 2025, 09:28:43 AM
Fantastic playing.

It would be interesting to know a bit more about your background and experiences.

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Re: Chopin Etudes op.10 nr.1/12
Reply #8 on: August 22, 2025, 10:45:02 PM
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Re: Chopin Etudes op.10 nr.1/12
Reply #9 on: August 23, 2025, 09:05:35 PM
Beautiful!

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Re: Chopin Etudes op.10 nr.1/12
Reply #10 on: August 25, 2025, 11:58:38 AM
You play both etudes very well.

I enjoyed listening to your performance.

Thank you for sharing!
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