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Offline Waldszenen

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Famous Music you don't like
on: April 18, 2005, 11:56:24 PM
Are there any famous things that are generally liked by most people, that you yourself don't enjoy?


For me, it'd be Prokofiev's 2nd Concerto and Chopin's 2nd Concerto.
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Offline Daevren

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #1 on: April 19, 2005, 12:31:59 AM
Almost all of it.

Prokofievs 2nd concerto is famous? Maybe Chopins second, which I don't like.

I have no idea how it sounds. I think I have heard it, but average Joe? There is only a few timeless famous musical works.

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #2 on: April 19, 2005, 01:15:45 AM
not a big bartok fan here. so,....

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #3 on: April 19, 2005, 01:29:17 AM
I don't care for Mozart. And I've never understood the popularity of Chopin's Fantasy Impromptu, Chopin has written way better pieces then that one.

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #4 on: April 19, 2005, 03:04:24 AM
Seconded for fantasy impromptu, seconded for all of mozart as well, don't like la mer, don't like first movement of moonlight sonata, and I guess that's pretty much it for famous music that the average joe would know of.

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #5 on: April 19, 2005, 03:34:27 AM
I don't like one bit of the Moonlight Sonata, and I'm not too big on the Pathetique either. Amongst other things, any Saint-Saens for me.

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #6 on: April 19, 2005, 05:33:54 AM
I don't like one bit of the Moonlight Sonata, and I'm not too big on the Pathetique either. Amongst other things, any Saint-Saens for me.

The Moonlight and the Pathetique are great sonatas.  The problem I have is figuring out how I'd see them if they were nothing more than Op. 27 No. 2 and Op. 13. 

The Pathetique, for instance, was the first of its kind to use that sort of mysterious prelude, which I find extremely important to the first movement.  The second movement has a melody that it nothing short of unforgettable.  One of the most romantic and sensitive movements ever written, in my opinion, as overdone as it is.  And the third movement, admittedly the weakest in my view, at least adds exciting closure to the sonata. 

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #7 on: April 19, 2005, 10:48:37 AM
If you mean well known bands;
I HATE Eminem and all of those rappers! >:(

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #8 on: April 19, 2005, 07:30:18 PM
Now now Triton, I'm sure there's good stuff in rapping... just waiting for us to discover it...

Oh who am I kidding, I'd rather listen to the Fantaisie Impromptu.

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #9 on: April 19, 2005, 09:47:39 PM
Tupac Shakur's last album before he died was pretty good. There's a lot of good rap, it just happens to be lost in the excess of shitty rap.

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #10 on: April 19, 2005, 10:59:20 PM
yep fantasie impromptu can remain unpublished as chopin left it imo

and the rap has got to go! except french rap that's just funny- in fact all pop music in french is funny- no offence to the french i love it!
and i'm not too keen on liszt's hungarian rhapsodies, or la campanella for that matter. but who cares i'd rather think of the pieces i do like and ignore the rejects
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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #11 on: April 19, 2005, 11:33:34 PM
rap isnt all that bad, most of the mainstream sucks but if you dig deep and look for underground artists rap can be real poetic andn actually relaxing to listen to

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #12 on: April 20, 2005, 01:55:53 AM
I would love to take every score of Tchaikovsky's 1st piano concerto, throw them into a deep pit, pour them with gasoline, and start a bonfire that could be seen from outerspace!!!  ;D   :-*

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #13 on: April 20, 2005, 01:58:38 AM
A piece which I really dislike when played in its entirety is Ravel's Bolero.  I like the first minute, and the last minute, but the 10 minutes inbetween just keeps repeating the first minute.  It gets quite boring.

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #14 on: April 20, 2005, 03:22:49 AM
A piece which I really dislike when played in its entirety is Ravel's Bolero.  I like the first minute, and the last minute, but the 10 minutes inbetween just keeps repeating the first minute.  It gets quite boring.

Ravel hated it too :)

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #15 on: April 20, 2005, 03:54:15 AM
Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture.  soooo bloody annoying

Chopin's Waltz in C# minor also gets on my nerves because it has one of those melodies I cant get out of my head. 
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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #16 on: April 20, 2005, 06:16:04 AM
Tchaikovsky's "Sleeping Beauty" and all his overblown, poorly developed, awkwardly,crudely modulated, emotionally sophomoric symphonies.  They sound like they were written by a lovesick gay teenager.  Ugh.  And most of Verdi's melodramas, too.  Just way too much um-pah-pah-pah, over and over...too much DRAMA...blood everywhere, intrigue, revenge, always revenge, spite galore.  Ugh.

IMO. ;)

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #17 on: April 20, 2005, 10:50:56 AM
Moonlight sonata
any mozart piano music
fantasy impromptu, and his c# minor waltz and op. 9 no.2 nocturne in e flat

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #18 on: April 20, 2005, 11:01:49 AM
Moonlight sonata
any mozart piano music
fantasy impromptu, and his c# minor waltz and op. 9 no.2 nocturne in e flat



I loved the Fantasy Impromptu, but now that i have been playing it for a year and a half, I don't like it anymore..

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #19 on: April 20, 2005, 11:22:05 AM
rondo alla turca - mozart
fur elise - beethoven

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #20 on: April 20, 2005, 11:34:00 AM
rondo alla turca - mozart
fur elise - beethoven



I loved Rondo Alla Turca also, but every time i play the pieces myself, i don't like them..
annoying :(

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #21 on: April 20, 2005, 11:42:29 AM
I like very little Mozart!
But I hate Barbers Adagio for strings more than anything!! Oh and that Albinoni one that gets played in mainstream radio
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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #22 on: April 20, 2005, 01:23:55 PM
Amazing how many people hate Mozart here, usually regarded as one of the greatest composers in history. :)
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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #23 on: April 20, 2005, 01:33:50 PM
If you mean well known bands;
I HATE Eminem and all of those rappers! >:(
i hATE rappers too
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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #24 on: April 20, 2005, 01:55:44 PM
90% of Alkan´s works

Any piano piece by Godowsky

Tchaikovsky
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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #25 on: April 20, 2005, 03:12:42 PM
Paganini, Joplin and Claiderman's stuff
Tschaikovsky's popular overtures, Serenade for strings and 1st piano concerto.
Clementi's Sonatinas
Czerny's etudes and Hanon's exercises.
Grieg's Peer Gint


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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #26 on: April 20, 2005, 05:25:51 PM
Having heard Fur Elise inside countless music boxes I now loathe the piece.

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #27 on: April 20, 2005, 10:00:29 PM
Ravel hated it too :)

He didn't necessarily hate it, he was just amazed by how popular became. A few quotes.

"My greatest masterpiece is the Bolero. Yet, it has no music."

After the first performance:
"Very good playing! However, it is something that won't be heard regularly on those Sunday concert programs!" (This one is off a bit, but that is the general quote)


Really, it's very repetitive, and was just an exercise in orchestration. But you can not  simply deny the melody's amazing catchiness and ease of recall.

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #28 on: April 20, 2005, 10:12:41 PM
You people are cracking me up!

Any piano piece by Godowsky

Have you read my Godowsky thread? How could you not find that music beautiful? And another thing, do you really consider Godowsky "famous"? 99% of the people in the world probably have never even heard of Godowsky!

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #29 on: April 21, 2005, 03:11:25 AM
rap isnt all that bad, most of the mainstream sucks but if you dig deep and look for underground artists rap can be real poetic andn actually relaxing to listen to

Binary Star-reality check

real great guys...composed their own rythms with piano and beats...

really relaxing..you wont hear one fowl mouthed word...and can truly be called poetry

im really sick of people jumping on the "rap sucks" bandwagon because they heard eminem talk about killing his mom..or 50 cent talkin about womanizing..when you've never even given the genre that is Hip Hop a good chance to educate and enlighten ...thats what makes you sound so over prided in your "intelectually superior" music that is classical...but when it boils down to it...you are just another breed of the same ignorant species that turn their nose up to classical for being "stuffy" and "boring"...seriously..grow up

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #30 on: April 21, 2005, 03:32:40 AM
Well personally, I was at my friend's house today. He had to put on some music, ya know, the general stuff people like nowadays. All of the stuff I heard was insanely repetitive and boring, and I heard myself hearing the same tonic to dominant chords being played incessantly. My ears almost fell off. Let's be honest, most of the so called "musicians" nowadays, don't know how to read music, and some don't even know how to sing, resorting either to lip-syncing or yelling! Come on, that's the epitome of terrible. And the music sounds like it was worked on for a few days. Give me some good synthesizers, a decent singer, and optionally, a lyricist, and I could make something over three times better than any of these people.

And rap, that isn't music. Put that under spoken word. Really. Little sense of melody, and absolutely no harmony at times. All just the damn rythm. And guess what? It's always similar. And we are referring of course to the mainstream stuff that everyone listens to. You can't expect us to be counting all the stuff few people listen to.  You know, there is a reason why "Drop it Like it's Hot" is much more popular than lots of  the other stuff you are probably thinking about.  I once had the misfortune of hearing this nonsense garble. How could anyone even like this pile of cacophonous mixtures of sounds. Dare it even be compared to sound? It's not like there was even a remotely interesting beat to it. Absolutely no melody or something memorable besides the uttered phrase which correlates with the title. Some rap is ok, and I don't mind Eminem too much as he's a little bit crazy and weird, and he likes to say whatever he likes, which makes me have hope that maybe freedom of speech still exists. Plus he doesn't have a drum set as the only instrument audible in his music. Anyways, I'm done with my little rant here.

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #31 on: April 21, 2005, 03:40:35 AM
The Moonlight and the Pathetique are great sonatas.  The problem I have is figuring out how I'd see them if they were nothing more than Op. 27 No. 2 and Op. 13. 

The Pathetique, for instance, was the first of its kind to use that sort of mysterious prelude, which I find extremely important to the first movement.  The second movement has a melody that it nothing short of unforgettable.  One of the most romantic and sensitive movements ever written, in my opinion, as overdone as it is.  And the third movement, admittedly the weakest in my view, at least adds exciting closure to the sonata. 


Ok? Thanks.

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #32 on: April 21, 2005, 05:02:02 AM
Well personally, I was at my friend's house today. He had to put on some music, ya know, the general stuff people like nowadays. All of the stuff I heard was insanely repetitive and boring, and I heard myself hearing the same tonic to dominant chords being played incessantly. My ears almost fell off. Let's be honest, most of the so called "musicians" nowadays, don't know how to read music, and some don't even know how to sing, resorting either to lip-syncing or yelling! Come on, that's the epitome of terrible. And the music sounds like it was worked on for a few days. Give me some good synthesizers, a decent singer, and optionally, a lyricist, and I could make something over three times better than any of these people.

And rap, that isn't music. Put that under spoken word. Really. Little sense of melody, and absolutely no harmony at times. All just the *** rythm. And guess what? It's always similar. And we are referring of course to the mainstream stuff that everyone listens to. You can't expect us to be counting all the stuff few people listen to.  You know, there is a reason why "Drop it Like it's Hot" is much more popular than lots of  the other stuff you are probably thinking about.  I once had the misfortune of hearing this nonsense garble. How could anyone even like this pile of cacophonous mixtures of sounds. Dare it even be compared to sound? It's not like there was even a remotely interesting beat to it. Absolutely no melody or something memorable besides the uttered phrase which correlates with the title. Some rap is ok, and I don't mind Eminem too much as he's a little bit crazy and weird, and he likes to say whatever he likes, which makes me have hope that maybe freedom of speech still exists. Plus he doesn't have a drum set as the only instrument audible in his music. Anyways, I'm done with my little rant here.

completely agree...but its when people mistake what they hear on the mainstream radio for Hip Hop, thats when it really gets to me. I was a hip hop enthusiast way before i was into classical music (but classical music dominates my CD case these days)...like i said...i really do see eye to eye in just about every point you made but what i wanted to specify in my previous post was...people overgeneralize a beautiful genre (Hip Hop) due to bad expriences regarding black rappers in jerseys rhymin about money and sex...i dont expect everyone to be educated  in true hip hop poetry and break beat compositions with beautifully structured harmonies and melodies like Pete Rock's works...or even DJ Shadow and his piece (Organ Doner) with the backbeat and the organ in a fugue-like sequence (he admitted himself that Bach's Little Organ Fugue piece was inspiration for this vinyl track)...but it just really pains me that people get turned off by the entire Hip Hop genre due to the retarted dissonant slang and slurring they hear on the radio...kids these days...

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #33 on: April 21, 2005, 08:15:00 AM
How can you not like, "In the beginning there was the message, and the message was love, and loovveeee was the SWAN! I am the magnificent.".

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #34 on: April 21, 2005, 09:00:50 AM
Ugh I know we all hate rap but can't we keep it confined to classical music?
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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #35 on: April 21, 2005, 11:42:22 AM
i dont really like fuer elise ,fantasie impromtu,minute walz  ;D a bit boring with it
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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #36 on: April 22, 2005, 03:14:06 AM
I actually enjoy most of the overplayed pieces.  The only one that doesn't do anything for me is the Fantasie-Impromptu.

completely agree...but its when people mistake what they hear on the mainstream radio for Hip Hop, thats when it really gets to me. I was a hip hop enthusiast way before i was into classical music (but classical music dominates my CD case these days)...like i said...i really do see eye to eye in just about every point you made but what i wanted to specify in my previous post was...people overgeneralize a beautiful genre (Hip Hop) due to bad expriences regarding black rappers in jerseys rhymin about money and sex...i dont expect everyone to be educated in true hip hop poetry and break beat compositions with beautifully structured harmonies and melodies like Pete Rock's works...or even DJ Shadow and his piece (Organ Doner) with the backbeat and the organ in a fugue-like sequence (he admitted himself that Bach's Little Organ Fugue piece was inspiration for this vinyl track)...but it just really pains me that people get turned off by the entire Hip Hop genre due to the retarted dissonant slang and slurring they hear on the radio...kids these days...

hip hop hooray

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #37 on: April 24, 2005, 09:26:41 PM

Ok? Thanks.

Hey, here's a thought: what if Richter, His Glorified Majesty and Demi-God of the Known Universe, descended from his throne at the right hand of God himself to play the Moonlight sonata?

I bet SteinwayGuy'd be licking it up then.   Oy.  ::)

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Re: Famous Music you don't like
Reply #38 on: April 26, 2005, 04:44:20 AM
Hey, here's a thought: what if Richter, His Glorified Majesty and Demi-God of the Known Universe, descended from his throne at the right hand of God himself to play the Moonlight sonata?

I bet SteinwayGuy'd be licking it up then. Oy. ::)

Nah, I don't like much (most) of his Beethoven. Sorry to disappoint.
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