two part invention help

[LeoBen207]

I am completely frustrated with these bach two part inventions, I can't seem to put left and right hands together . I memorized the treble and bass clefs separate in 20 minutes (ten minutes each). I've been at it for more then 5 hrs trying to combine the two clefs (Two Part 1 btw). What am I doing wrong? Should I just memorize them simultaneously bar by bar? Any advice would be greatly appreciated...thanks

[chopinisque]

Put the hands together slowly at first.

Also, try Bernhard's dropping method...


https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1651.msg14344.html#msg14344
(How to gain hand independence – dropping notes)

[LeoBen207]

thanks alot, I'll try Bernhards "dropping notes" thing. 

[bernhard]

Also have a look here:

On joining hands:

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7682.msg77042.html#msg77042
(hand independence: how to create a cue system and what is hand memory).

On 2 voice inventions:

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1911.msg14853.html#msg14853
(invention no. 8 – relative difficulty of the inventions – progressive order of Bach’s keyboard works – CD  recommendations)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2714.msg23310.html#msg23310
(how to teach/learn invention no. 1)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3187.msg27993.html#msg27993
(order of difficulty of the inventions)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4736.msg44774.html#msg44774
(how to play inventions – Escher picture – Example: Invention 4 – Analogy with the game of chess)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5143.msg49995.html#msg49995
(Inventions and sinfonias: Bach’s pedagogical order of difficulty)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7857.msg78912.html#msg78912
(ornamentation and inventions – general discussion on ornamentation)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7246.msg72307.html#msg72307
(how to outline invention 14)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7664.msg77057.html#msg77057
(How to break a piece in sessions – Example: Invention no. 1).


Best wishes,
Bernhard.