Upcoming Piano Competitions- and discussion

[rubinsteinmad]

Yeah aimi is really really good when she's on. She wasn't on this past stage but she still got through. Hopefully she will do her best on S3! But I HATE THAT STUPID B FLAT MINOR SONATA.

I like it better than the 3rd Sonata. I think the 3rd Sonata has very little musical value to it. The 4th movement is a little bit better than the rest of the Sonata, though. The 3rd Sonata has no "pretty parts". I think it is like one of Beethoven's late Sonatas, but more shallow.

The 2nd Sonata is a little bit better. I see how music critics hate the 2nd Sonata but love the 3rd, but who cares about them? There's a reason they become music critics, not musicians.
Music is for beauty. It is not for being "perfect". Music critics like perfect, they don't appreciate natural beauty as much.

[schumaniac]

I like it better than the 3rd Sonata. I think the 3rd Sonata has very little musical value to it. The 4th movement is a little bit better than the rest of the Sonata, though. The 3rd Sonata has no "pretty parts". I think it is like one of Beethoven's late Sonatas, but more shallow.

The 2nd Sonata is a little bit better. I see how music critics hate the 2nd Sonata but love the 3rd, but who cares about them? There's a reason they become music critics, not musicians.
Music is for beauty. It is not for being "perfect". Music critics like perfect, they don't appreciate natural beauty as much.

Bruh... you're like... 12. Sit down. How does the 3rd "have very little musical value?" It's one of the best examples of Chopin's later works; a rich, contrapuntal, yet thoroughly "Chopinesque" idiom. It comes from the period of Chopin's Barcarolle, Polonaise-Fantasie, the 4th Ballade... Personally I think both Sonatas are of great value; I've been familiar with both for a while I'd say... (especially the second, which I'd listen to on long car rides e.g. to some really good Chinese restaurant 100 miles away; those trips to restaurants and sh-t were how I got to know a lot of good pieces)

Being a music critic is also a great position. e.g. Harold C. Schonberg; look at how he portrays composers and pianists in such a lively way.

Don't make comments if you don't know what you're talking about and are bullshitting stuff

[schumaniac]

Yes she is.

Meh tbh

[rubinsteinmad]

Bruh... you're like... 12. Sit down. How does the 3rd "have very little musical value?" It's one of the best examples of Chopin's later works; a rich, contrapuntal, yet thoroughly "Chopinesque" idiom. It comes from the period of Chopin's Barcarolle, Polonaise-Fantasie, the 4th Ballade... Personally I think both Sonatas are of great value; I've been familiar with both for a while I'd say... (especially the second, which I'd listen to on long car rides e.g. to some really good Chinese restaurant 100 miles away; those trips to restaurants and sh-t were how I got to know a lot of good pieces)

Being a music critic is also a great position. e.g. Harold C. Schonberg; look at how he portrays composers and pianists in such a lively way.

Don't make comments if you don't know what you're talking about and are bullshitting stuff

Still, being a musician/a USEFUL music teacher is much more honorable than being a music critic, even if music critics make more money.

However, sometimes if a music critic is a professional musician himself/herself, that's fine.

[rubinsteinmad]

Come on, Martha Argerich! Stand up for the injustice and eat, shoot, and leave!
   

[schumaniac]

Still, being a musician/a USEFUL music teacher is much more honorable than being a music critic, even if music critics make more money.

However, sometimes if a music critic is a professional musician himself/herself, that's fine.

You remind me of myself when I was a 7th grader. Don't be so... judging... or "judgemental" like ohmigosh. [sips Starbucks Caramel Frappucino from a straw]

and yes Argerich should just leave the jury in disgust. But now she'd be seen as doing that for the sake of doing it.
Maybe she'll be like Pascal Roge and nicely, quietly, write a letter stating her resignation.

[rubinsteinmad]

You remind me of myself when I was a 7th grader. Don't be so... judging... or "judgemental" like ohmigosh. [sips Starbucks Caramel Frappucino from a straw]

and yes Argerich should just leave the jury in disgust. But now she'd be seen as doing that for the sake of doing it.
Maybe she'll be like Pascal Roge and nicely, quietly, write a letter stating her resignation.

Pascal Roge is a judge? And he resigned ALREADY? And he wrote a letter ALREADY? And got it read ALREADY?

[schumaniac]

Pascal Roge is a judge? And he resigned ALREADY? And he wrote a letter ALREADY? And got it read ALREADY?

NO HAHA in another competition omg facepalm

[rubinsteinmad]

NO HAHA in another competition omg facepalm

NO HAHA in another competition omg facepalm

What competition? Queen Elisabeth?

I mean, I'm not very up to date on competitions.

[schumaniac]

What competition? Queen Elisabeth?

I mean, I'm not very up to date on competitions.

no some random competition in Italy HAHA
but still, I read about on social media

[rubinsteinmad]

no some random competition in Italy HAHA
but still, I read about on social media

Busoni?

[schumaniac]

Busoni?

Wow you are smart

I should've written "'not Busoni"
It's this random, small competition. I don't even remember the name

[schumaniac]

SO who played today?

[rubinsteinmad]

SO who played today? I was at school all day (duh) so..

In This Order,, but Luigi broke his hand so he's going last (on October 16th.)
Kobayashi was the last to play today.

Luigi Carrocia- Claudio Monteverdi Conservatory
Galina Christakova- Moscow Conservatory 1993-2005; Incontri col Maestro Academy (current)
Seong-jin Cho- Paris Conservatory
Chi Ho Han- School of Performing Arts (Seoul);Folkwang University of Arts (Essen); Lake Como Academy; Hannover Conservatory/Hoschule(current)
Aljosa Jurinc-  Scuolo di Musica (Fresola, 2011-14); Hochschule fur Musik Franz Liszt (Weimar, current)
Su Yeon Kim- Institute for Artistically Talented Pupils (2007-10); Korea National University of the Arts; Mozarteum(Salzburg, current)
Dinara Klinton- Moscow Conservatory; Royal School of Music
Aimi Kobayashi- Curtis Institute of Music
Marek Kozak- Leo Janacek Conservatory; Prague Academy of Performinc Arts (current);
Lukasz Krupinski- Zenon Brzewski Secondary School of Music (Warsaw); Frederick Chopin University of Music (Warsaw, current)
Krzysztof Ksiazek- Bydgoszcz Music Academy
Kate Liu- Chicago Institute of Music; Curtis Institute of Music (current)
Eric Lu- New England Conservatory- Prepatory School; Curtis Institute of Music;
Szymon Nehrig- Bydgoszcz Music Academy
Georgis Osokins- Juillard School (he's a freshman)
Charles Richard-Hamelin- McGill University; Yale School of Music;
Dmitry Shishkin- Pyotr Tchaikovsky School (Chelyabinsk); Gressin School (Moscow); Moscow Conservaotry (current);
Alexei- Tartakovsky- Eleanor Sokoloff & Marcantonio Barone; Matti Raekallio(Juillard School?))Nina Lelchuk(Queen's College?); Boris Slutsky (Peabody Conservaotry) Boris Berman (Yale University?, current)
Zi Xu- Bydgoszcz School of Music;Bydgoszcz Music Academy (current);
Tony Yike Yang- Royal School in Toronto (I think?); Juillard School Pre-College(current)

[rubinsteinmad]

ENOUGH!!!! We've been using 3 pages exclusively for the Chopin Competition. Poor schumaniac


Here's the contestants for the LISZT COMPETITION IN WEIMAR.
Heard of any?





1 Sergey Belyavskiy Russia/Russia
2 León Bernsdorf Germany/Germany
3 Gaidar Beskembirov Germany/Russia
4 Maria Bobrina Russia/Russia
5 Eka Bokuchavas Georgia/Georgia
6 Yaroslav Bykh Ukraine/Ukraine
7 Başar Can Kıvrak Turkey/Turkey
8 Albert Kuan-Yi Chen Taiwan/Taiwan
9 Shih - Wei Chen Taiwan/Taiwan
10 Jongyeol Choi Germany/South Korea
11 Gesualdo Coggi Italia/Italia
12 Imre Dani Hungary/Hungary
13 Vasco Dantas Portugal/Portugal
14 Dimitris Daskalakis Greece/Greece
15 Antoine de Grolée France/France
16 Christian De Luca Italia/Italia
17 Tanguy De Williencourt France/France
18 Ingvar Egorov Russia/Russia
19 Ernst Erlanson Sweden/Sweden
20 Kateryna Garanich Germany/Ukraine
21 Florian Glemser Germany/Germany
22 Liangxiao Guo China/China
23 Jianhong Hu China/China
24 Manami Iida France/Japan
25 Grigoris Ioannou Greece/Greece
26 Daria Ionkina Russia/Russia
27 Kana Ito France/Japan
28 Martin Ivanov Austria/Bulgaria
29 Dina Ivanova Russia/Russia
30 Aleksandr Kalinin Russia/Russia
31 Anna Kavalerova Russia/Russia
32 Sungpil Kim USA/USA
33 SooJung Kim USA/South Korea
34 Sunghyun Kim Germany/South Korea
35 Roman Kosyakov Russia/Russia
36 Daria Kovaleva Austria/Russia
37 Michael Krivoruchko Poland/Ukraine, Poland
38 Maria Kustas UK/Russia
39 Ho Yel Lee Austria/South Korea
40 Sumi Lee Germany/South Korea
41 Rudin Lengo Canada/Canada
42 Adela Liculescu Austria/Romania
43 Lifeng Liu Germany/China
44 Darío Llanos Javierre Spain/Spain
45 Yuma Matsuoka Germany/Japan
46 Michał Mędzkiewicz Poland/Poland
47 Mayuko Motoyama Japan/Japan
48 Emi Munakata Germany/Japan
49 Petro Naryshkin Germany/Ukraine, Czech Republic
50 Sugawara Nozomu Japan/Japan
51 Anna Pavlova Austria/Russia
52 Ivan Penkov Netherlands/Bulgaria
53 Valeriya Prokhorova Russia/Russia
54 Danor Quinteros Austria/Chile
55 Feng Ran China/China
56 Théo Ranganathan Poland/France
57 Dmitry Rodionov Germany/Russia
58 Arseni Sadykov Germany/Belarus
59 Tsu Tham Tommy Seah Australia/Singapur
60 Ketevan Sharumashvili Netherlands/Georgia
61 Jiuming Shen China/China
62 Raymond Shon Finland/South Korea
63 Tatiana Sidorova Switzerland/Russia
64 Albertina Eunju Song Germany/South Korea
65 Vitaly Starikov Russia/Russia
66 Alexey Sychev Austria/Russia
67 Maksim Timofeev Russia/Russia
68 Nikita Tonkonogov Switzerland/Russia
69 Alexander Trukhin Ukraine/Russia, Ukraine
70 Nicolae Vezure Germany/Romania
71 Guillaume Vincent France/France
72 Naru Wakamatsu Germany/Japan
73 Deren Wang Japan/China
74 Han Wang USA/China
75 Bocheng Wang UK/China
76 Gehui Xu Germany/China
77 Seo-Jin Yoon Germany/South Korea
   
   
   
   

[rubinsteinmad]

The candidates for the Long-Thibaud-Crespin:

 

- Miss Abe Maria (Japan), 27
- Mr Cavion Pierre (France), 25
- Mr Clef Julian (India), 25
- Mr Crespeau Giancarlo (France), 30
- Miss Du Inge (Germany), 22
- Miss Fukami Madoka (Japan), 27
- Mr Gasparian Jean-Paul (France), 20
- Mr Genchev Evgeny (Bulgaria), 26
- Miss Gentet Maroussia (France), 23
- Miss Gumenyuk Ekaterina (Russia), 26
- Miss Ham Soo-Yeon (South Korea), 30
- Miss Hsieh Wei Ting (Taiwan), 19
- Miss Ishimaru Yuki (Japan), 24
- Mr Jitsukwawa Kaoru (Japan), 26
- Miss Kaihara Yukino (Japan), 23
- Miss Karpliuk Daria (Russia), 27
- Miss Kaszo Syuzanna (Hungary), 28
- Miss Katada Airi (Japan), 23
- Mr Kim Euchan Christian (South Korea), 30
- Miss Kiseleva Daria (Russia), 26
- Mr Laurent Grandpré Franck (France), 24
- Mr Lee Jin-Hyeon (South Korea), 25
- Miss Leroux Justine (France), 28
- Miss Liu Yang (China), 24
- Mr McLaurin Micah (United States), 21
- Mr Nicoletta Federico (Italia), 28
- Mr Numasawa Yoshito (Japan), 28
- Miss Okada Kana (Japan), 24
- Mr Park Joo Hyeon (South Korea), 27
- Mr Pascalucci Fiorenzo (Italia), 28
- Miss Pisareva Nadezda (Russia), 28
- Mr Ritivoiu Mihai (Rumania), 26
- Mr Saito Kazuya (Japan), 25
- Mr Sohn Jeungbeum (South Korea), 24
- Mr Tan Xiao (China), 26
- Miss Tang Shih-Yu (Taiwan), 20
- Mr Trevelyan Julian (United Kingdom), 17
- Miss Umemura Tomoyo (Japan), 27
- Miss Wang Yijia (China), 20
- Mr Won Jae Yeon (South Korea), 27
- Mr Yoon Joon (South Korea), 22


I've only heard of Micah McLaurin

[ajlongspiano]

Micah McLaurin is a wonderful pianist. Wish him the best

[rubinsteinmad]

Micah McLaurin is a wonderful pianist. Wish him the best

Who gave you, sir, the rights to order me?

Tu es..... let's not even go there

[rubinsteinmad]

"Aimi can't match my MUSCLE!!!!"

That's what she seems to be saying on this video's cover photo lol

[schumaniac]

Long-Thibaud and Liszt are not what they used to be.

Same with Geneva and Leeds

Liszt I know 2 people who just hover around first rounds of competitions.
Long I haven't heard of any of them. Except one person whose name is ONE LETTER AWAY from "Yujia"

[ajlongspiano]

Yeah, she's very good, but there are many pianists I like better, such as Eric Lu, George Li, and Charles Richard Hamelin, to name a few.

Oh how the tables have turned... lol

[pencilart3]

Oh how the tables have turned... lol

I still think Eric and Charles are better. What makes you think I didn't?

oh...the youtube chat.

[schumaniac]

I still think Eric and Charles are better. What makes you think I didn't?

oh...the youtube chat.

I wasn't on the YouTube chat today...

PencilArt, you go to regular school, right?
How do you have time go on YouTube chats?!

[pencilart3]

PencilArt, you go to regular school, right?

Yup, I go to regular school. Wait what do you mean by that?

[ajlongspiano]

Me and Noah are homeschooled peeps

[rubinsteinmad]

Seong-jin Cho
Aljosa Jurinic
Aimi Kobayashi
Kate Liu
Eric Lu
Szymon Nehrig
Georges Osokins
Charles Richard-Hamelin
Dmitry Shishkin
TonyYike Yang

[ajlongspiano]

I was surprised that Ksiazek didn't make it but other than that, great results!

[schumaniac]

Seong-jin Cho
Aljosa Jurinic
Aimi Kobayashi
Kate Liu
Eric Lu
Szymon Nehrig
Georges Osokins
Charles Richard-Hamelin
Dmitry Shishkin
TonyYike Yang

Damn

[pencilart3]

AIMI MADE IT!!!! YES YES YES YES <3 <3 <3

[rubinsteinmad]

I was surprised that Ksiazek didn't make it but other than that, great results!

OMG did you see the scene after they announced the results where Tony Yike Yang was basically almost crying?

OMG I have nothing againsty him anymore. Why does it have to take so much to make me like someone? I'm so evl

The expression was basically like, "Finally!"(As you may know, he didn't manage to get in the Semi-finals of neither the CIPC Young Artists or neither the Cliburn Junior . Some of the people who beat him were clearly inferior to him, i.e. Chaeyoung Park and Youlan Ji.

Even though that probably isn't why he was crying, it would probably be the reason I'd cry if I was him.

[ajlongspiano]

Yeah he seems like such a kind kid.

[pencilart3]

NO KRZYSZTOF KSAIZEK?

[rubinsteinmad]

Yeah he seems like such a kind kid.

Yeah he seems like such a kind kid.

ikr I have to listen to his playing again with less bias.

OMG how can just one kid change your feelings so much about 1 conservatory?

I no longer have "pro-Curtis anti-Juillard" feelings.


This makes me reaslize just how biased I am.

[rubinsteinmad]

NO KRZYSZTOF KSAIZEK?

NO KRZYSZTOF KSAIZEK?

Dude this is a COMPETITION. Don't take 1 result so seriously. Besides he is ALREADY FROM POLAND. So he doesn't have much to lose anyways. His home is only like at most a 5 hour drive away.

[rubinsteinmad]

The Finalists:


Seong-jin Cho- Paris Conservatory
Aljosa Jurinic- Scuolo di Musica(Fresola); Hoschule for Musik Franz Liszt (Weimar)
Aimi Kobayashi- Curtis
Kate Liu- Chicago Institute; Curtis
Eric Lu- New England Conservatory (Prep School); Curtis
Szymon Nehrig -Bydgoszcz Music Academy
Georges Osokins _ Juillard freshman
Charles Richard-Hamelin- McGill; Yale
Dmitry Shishkin- Tchaikovsky School (Chelyabinski); Gressin School (Moscow); Moscow Conservatory
Yang- Toronot Royal Conservatory; Juilklard Pre-College


The Ones who were Dropped:
Luigi Carrocia- Claudio Monteverdi Conservatory
Galina Christakova- Moscow Conservatory 1993-2005; Incontri col Maestro Academy (current)
Chi Ho Han- School of Performing Arts (Seoul);Folkwang University of Arts (Essen); Lake Como Academy; Hannover Conservatory/Hoschule(current)
Su Yeon Kim- Institute for Artistically Talented Pupils (2007-10); Korea National University of the Arts; Mozarteum(Salzburg, current)
Dinara Klinton- Moscow Conservatory; Royal School of Music
Marek Kozak- Leo Janacek Conservatory; Prague Academy of Performinc Arts (current);
Lukasz Krupinski- Zenon Brzewski Secondary School of Music (Warsaw); Frederick Chopin University of Music (Warsaw, current)
Krzysztof Ksiazek- Bydgoszcz Music Academy
Alexei- Tartakovsky- Eleanor Sokoloff & Marcantonio Barone; Matti Raekallio(Juillard School?))Nina Lelchuk(Queen's College?); Boris Slutsky (Peabody Conservaotry) Boris Berman (Yale University?, current)
Zi Xu- Bydgoszcz School of Music;Bydgoszcz Music Academy (current);

[rubinsteinmad]

So Now, its a Battle between Curtis, Juillard, and Charles Richard-Hamelin and Dmitri Shishkin 

Curtis- 3 contestants lol
Juillard- 2 contestants

[ajlongspiano]

Hamelin is at Yale lol

[rubinsteinmad]

Hamelin is at Yale lol

Hamelin is at Yale lol

Yeah, but he's the only one at Yale in the Grand Finals. Shishkin is the only Moscower.

BTW, Only Hamelin is doing the 2nd Concerto. So Intense lol

[rubinsteinmad]

I just voted for Eric Lu and Seong-jin Cho for the audience prize. Too bad I'm pretty sure most people will vote for Soeng-jin Cho just cause he's Korean.

I actually think Eric Lu plays more inspring.

I liked Seong-jin Cho's Hamamatsu (age 15) perofrmances, though.

[schumaniac]

I just voted for Eric Lu and Seong-jin Cho for the audience prize. Too bad I'm pretty sure most people will vote for Soeng-jin Cho just cause he's Korean.

I actually think Eric Lu plays more inspring.

I liked Seong-jin Cho's Hamamatsu (age 15) perofrmances, though.

Honestly, stop bringing up race when talking about competitions. I used to be like you; I brought up ethnicity and politics a lot. But thinking about it, what's in it for competitions to be like that? I regard most statements like "the jury of X competition is rigged" or "they didn't want a guy from X country to win" as bordering on conspiracy theories; you might as well also wear tinfoil hats and believe in chemtrails.

Cho plays with a unique style; his playing at 15 was great, but he is also evolving and maturing as an artist. In his playing, I hear the same attention to detail, but now I think he wants to play in a more organized and rigid way. At age 15, he was much more "emotionally driven."

Of course, maybe you think Cho has "devolved" his style the way many child prodigies (supposedly?) become average later on in life... and you wish he played the way he used to be :/

[rubinsteinmad]

Honestly, stop bringing up race and sh-t when talking about competitions. I used to be like you; I brought up ethnicity and politics a lot. But thinking about it, what's in it for competitions to be like that? I regard most statements like "the jury of X competition is rigged" or "they didn't want a guy from X country to win" as bordering on conspiracy theories; you might as well also wear tinfoil hats and believe in chemtrails.

Cho plays with a unique style; his playing at 15 was great, but he is also evolving and maturing as an artist. In his playing, I hear the same attention to detail, but now I think he wants to play in a more organized and rigid way. At age 15, he was much more "emotionally driven."

Of course, maybe you think Cho has "devolved" his style the way many child prodigies (supposedly?) become average later on in life... and you wish he played the way he used to be :/

No no u misunderstand!

I was not talking about the JURY, I was talking about the PUBLIC! (The public will like Cho cause he's Korean and Koreans [the females] are awesome)

BTW, I don't think you should call Cho a "prodigy" at age 15. He was WAYYYYY too good to be called a prodigy. But yeah, I thought his playing was very good back then, and it still is, but I don't feel the same inspiration. :/

Not for other "prodigies" though. I think George Li sucked as a child, but now hes awesome.

[schumaniac]

No no u misunderstand!

I was not talking about the JURY, I was talking about the PUBLIC! (The public will like Cho cause he's Korean and Koreans [the females] are awesome)

BTW, I don't think you should call Cho a "prodigy" at age 15. He was WAYYYYY too good to be called a prodigy. But yeah, I thought his playing was very good back then, and it still is, but I don't feel the same inspiration. :/

Not for other "prodigies" though. I think George Li sucked as a child, but now hes awesome.

yeah, that's what I was saying; I think Cho is "maturing" in terms of tastes, but it seems like you're interpreting the same thing as "losing inspiration." But everything is relative I guess.

you know who really wasn't great as a child? Eric Lu tbh.
I really thought nothing of him when he was younger i.e. in middle/high school. He played everything with so much tension during "those years," and wasn't particularly professional-sounding or anything... to me, he was just another piano playing kid on YouTube.
When he won E-piano though, I was like WHOA! Is this the same Eric Lu?

And listening to his Ettlingen performance right now from when he was 12- I'm pretty sure there were lots of technical superpower teenagers; how did he win the thing??

[rubinsteinmad]

yeah, that's what I was saying; I think Cho is "maturing" in terms of tastes, but it seems like you're interpreting the same thing as "losing inspiration." But everything is relative I guess.

you know who really wasn't great as a child? Eric Lu tbh.
I really thought nothing of him when he was younger i.e. in middle/high school. He played everything with so much tension during "those years," and wasn't particularly professional-sounding or anything... to me, he was just another piano playing kid on YouTube.
When he won E-piano though, I was like WHOA! Is this the same Eric Lu?

And listening to his Ettlingen performance right now from when he was 12- I'm pretty sure there were lots of technical superpower teenagers; how did he win the thing??

lol when I heard his Haydn I was like, "meh, hes only 150% better than George Li"
(Not that I can do any better, of course)

When I heard his Chopin Concerto #1, I was amazed, but still I was FAR more amazed by Seong-jin Cho (but his recording of him playing Chopin Concerto #1 at 13 is not very inspiring either )


I like Cho's Sonata a lot. Its awesome. His Funeral March's D flat Major part is clearly divine.

[schumaniac]

lol when I heard his Haydn I was like, "meh, hes only 150% better than George Li"
(Not that I can do any better, of course)

When I heard his Chopin Concerto #1, I was amazed, but still I was FAR more amazed by Seong-jin Cho (but his recording of him playing Chopin Concerto #1 at 13 is not very inspiring either )


I like Cho's Sonata a lot. Its awesome. His Funeral March's D flat Major part is clearly divine.

He's CLEARLY been playing the op. 35 for a long time! I like it a lot too

[ajlongspiano]

I think saying " George Li sucked as a child " is going a bit too far . He most certainly did not suck. He's always been a talented kid.

[rubinsteinmad]

He's CLEARLY been playing the op. 35 for a long time! I like it a lot too

lol

[rubinsteinmad]

I think saying " George Li sucked as a child " is going a bit too far . He most certainly did not suck. He's always been a talented kid.

I think saying " George Li sucked as a child " is going a bit too far . He most certainly did not suck. He's always been a talented kid.

Go. Watch. His. Videos.

I mean, he didn't suck, but compared to what he is now, he SUCKED

[pencilart3]

I think saying " George Li sucked as a child " is going a bit too far .

If he sucked, then gosh what am I LOL

[ajlongspiano]

Of course! That's just common sense.... Pianists don't really devolve... And no, Cho did NOT devolve

[schumaniac]

Of course! That's just common sense.... Pianists don't really devolve... And no, Cho did NOT devolve

Yundi Li devolved

I agree, Cho did NOT devolve, it was just rubinsteinmad who was saying that