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Offline schnabels_grandson

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #150 on: January 24, 2004, 02:21:44 AM
Maybe if you make a new topic titled something like "religious debate IV - the philosophies"  It will get going like old times.
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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #151 on: January 24, 2004, 03:28:42 AM
Maybe, but we need staunch defenders and relentless attackers (all in a friendly way, of course) to make the debate interesting.

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #152 on: January 24, 2004, 05:04:15 PM
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Ed, I might suggest that if you want to change somebody's mind, calling them names probably doesn't help much.


I don't want to change his mind. I want to call him a muppet,
Ed

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #153 on: January 24, 2004, 06:13:49 PM
Why a muppet?  I hardly ever call names, actually.  If I want to insult someone, which I rarely do, I will use some adjective; "cretin" being a personal favorite.

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #154 on: January 24, 2004, 06:14:57 PM
Actually, I take that back; I meant "cretinous."  Just "cretin" is a noun.

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #155 on: January 24, 2004, 07:41:23 PM
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Why a muppet?


I thought it was apt. Not too rude,
Ed

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #156 on: January 24, 2004, 08:57:44 PM
It's kind of clever, actually.  Maybe I'll remember that.  I think this topic has become more of a "ramble on about anything" topic than a real debate.

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #157 on: January 25, 2004, 10:38:46 AM
Rambling rocks my world all night long.

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #158 on: January 25, 2004, 03:58:38 PM
It can be amusing.  Actually, the kind of rambling I enjoy most is when we just add posts back and forth, almost like a real time conversation.

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #159 on: January 28, 2004, 04:31:51 PM
um...ohh, i know

someone told me that religions start wars!  that's rubbish!  wars are NEVER about religion, they're always about land!  jus tpeople wanting land

religion can ONLY ever do good in the world, it could never cause a war!
What it all comes down to is that one does not play the piano with one’s fingers; one plays the piano with one’s mind.-  Glenn Gould

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #160 on: January 28, 2004, 05:55:50 PM
You're joking.......I hope?

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #161 on: January 28, 2004, 10:23:59 PM
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someone told me that religions start wars!  that's rubbish!  wars are NEVER about religion, they're always about land!  jus tpeople wanting land

religion can ONLY ever do good in the world, it could never cause a war!


And the Pope is Jewish,
Ed

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #162 on: January 29, 2004, 01:24:08 AM
It's been quite a while since we heard any theists in this thread.

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #163 on: January 29, 2004, 01:34:29 AM
lol.  The guy's obviously yanking your chains.  He must know that religion has caused many, many wars and that the churches always support one side or the other.  The catholic church supported Hitler.  Plus there's the crusades.  Tell me they weren't exclusively about religion.  
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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #164 on: January 29, 2004, 01:44:01 AM
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The catholic church supported Hitler.


It wasn't quite that simple, before we all go on anti-Catholic rants ;),
Ed

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #165 on: January 29, 2004, 01:49:28 AM
Your right, it wasn't that simple, but for an organisation that is supposed to follow Christ, they sure don't do a good job of being "no part of the world".
You don't have to eat garbage to know it's garbage.-Old Proverb
A good composer does not imitate; he steals.- Igor Stravinsky

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #166 on: January 29, 2004, 04:28:19 AM
Nor do most other Christians.

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #167 on: January 29, 2004, 05:31:40 AM
What ever happened to Twinkles and Wired?

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #168 on: January 30, 2004, 01:05:41 AM
I've wondered that myself; I almost miss refuting their arguments...almost.  (just kidding, by the way)

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #169 on: February 05, 2004, 06:28:53 AM
I just barely read threw this and i have never ceen someone try too prove a point with the word Guess in his staements so many times. Reffering too twinkles.

Offline chopiabin

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #170 on: February 05, 2004, 08:09:01 AM
I think he took self-imposed exile rather than be looked upon as an indiot in the end.

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #171 on: February 05, 2004, 08:51:05 AM
That's unfortunate because he looks like an idiot anyway.
You don't have to eat garbage to know it's garbage.-Old Proverb
A good composer does not imitate; he steals.- Igor Stravinsky

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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #172 on: February 06, 2004, 12:21:32 AM
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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #173 on: May 18, 2006, 05:57:23 PM
Twinkelfingers, you don't need to tell me all about who's this God and who that is. I'm a complete Roman Catholic--I go to mass, pray the rosary, blah blah... of course I don't take it seriously, I'm only forced! We have to pray more than 10 times a day in our school. more than 10 times! And it's true.

What i was saying was, "God loves us so much that he gave up his only begotten son." Okay, nice fiction.

Gave up--doesn't that mean that Jesus died? and that giving up, meaning, he'll perish and vanish forever? wouldn't it be meaningless if God "gave up" his only son Jesus, and Jesus would just rejoin him afterwards, with the same power and might as before. it's like only a play they were performing. Jesus "dies" in the play to show us that God the Father really loves us. but in the back stage he's completely healthy.

this is an interesting point which people should think about  8)
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Re: Religious Debate Room the Third
Reply #174 on: May 27, 2006, 11:32:07 PM
um...ohh, i know

someone told me that religions start wars!  that's rubbish!  wars are NEVER about religion, they're always about land!  jus tpeople wanting land

religion can ONLY ever do good in the world, it could never cause a war!

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