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Offline liszmaninopin

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greatest sonatas
on: January 27, 2004, 11:17:07 PM
What do you think are the greatest sonatas of all time, of any composer?

I would have to say that among the greatest would be Beethoven's op. 111, Liszt's B minor, Prokofiv's Sonata 7, Rachmaninoff's #1.  Actually, these are just some of my favorites, but I think that they are great pieces.

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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #1 on: January 27, 2004, 11:29:01 PM
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What do you think are the greatest sonatas of all time, of any composer?

I would have to say that among the greatest would be Beethoven's op. 111, Liszt's B minor, Prokofiv's Sonata 7, Rachmaninoff's #1.  Actually, these are just some of my favorites, but I think that they are great pieces.


I would absolutely agree!
Ed

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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #2 on: January 28, 2004, 04:50:35 AM
I would like to add on the Chopin Piano Sonata No. 2 and 3. To me, my choice of the greatest piano sonata is the Liszt Piano Sonata in B minor. What about Rachmaninoff No. 2 Sonata?

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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #3 on: January 28, 2004, 06:08:00 AM
with all those sonata you guys named(all are my favorite)

i would like to add a few:

Liszt: Dante Sonata

Beethoven: Waldstein, Appasionata(seriously thinking my next piece to tackle) Op.111

Mozart: K333

Alkan: Grande Sonata Op.33
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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #4 on: January 28, 2004, 06:18:15 AM
Scriabin 5th

Offline Noah

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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #5 on: January 28, 2004, 03:29:25 PM
Liszt B minor,
Beethoven Op.111,
Schubert D.960,
Barber Op.26,
Prokofiev n.6 and 7,
Haydn Hob XVI 52,
Mozart K.475, K.333
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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #6 on: January 28, 2004, 04:03:29 PM
Liszt B-minor (of course ;D)
Scriabin 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10
Copland Sonata
Beethoven 110
Schumann 1st
Rachmaninoff 1st
Prokofiev 8th
Berg Sonata
Frank Bridge Sonata
Dutilleux Sonata
Griffes Sonata
Ives "Concord" Sonata
Janacek October 1, 1905 Sonata
Medtner Sonata in G minor, Sonata-reminiscenza in A minor
Mozart 310
Schubert D major, Bb, C minor
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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #7 on: January 28, 2004, 04:18:30 PM
Generally, I agree with all your favourite Sonatas. But I would add the great Brahms Sonata in F.

So, my favourite Sonatas are:

Beethoven:
op.31 Nr. 2
op.57
op.111
Chopin:
Nr.2
Nr.3 op. 58
Brahms:
F-Sonata

Perhaps I forgave one...

regards, Ecthelion

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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #8 on: January 28, 2004, 06:59:31 PM
Greatest sonatas - note: not necessarily my favorite.

- Haydn - E flat Hob. XVI:52
- Beethoven - op. 106, Op. 101, Op. 53
- Schubert  B flat major
- Liszt B minor.
- Chopin B flat minor.
- Prokofiev - No. 8
- Ives - Concord sonata
- Boulez - sonata #2.
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Offline comme_le_vent

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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #9 on: January 28, 2004, 08:02:16 PM
if sonatines count then my favourite is alkan's sonatine op.61

if they dont... alkan - grande sonate op.33

the sonatine has a ball-busting mother-*** of a finish.
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Offline liszmaninopin

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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #10 on: January 28, 2004, 08:55:51 PM
comme, I'm just curious, but how much Alkan do you actually play?

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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #11 on: January 28, 2004, 09:22:15 PM
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Dutilleux Sonata


I'm glad someone mentioned that :). You don't by any chance have the score do you?
I would like to add Mozart's K.332 to the selection,
Ed

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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #12 on: January 29, 2004, 10:28:47 AM
forgot one

Prokofiev Sonata 7, esp movement 1.

Also some scarlatti.
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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #13 on: January 30, 2004, 10:37:47 PM
i havent learnt a single full alkan piece actually, they are rather difficult dont you know, although i did learn the 'notes' to op 76 no 3, but i could never get it up to speed, and ive forgot it now  :(
but im sure im going to learn lots in future
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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #14 on: January 31, 2004, 04:47:57 AM
For Me It´s:

Mozart - Sonata K.545

Or.

Bethoven - Sonata Quasi Una Fantasia
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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #15 on: February 08, 2004, 12:12:43 PM
i can't believe how everyone's missed the great hammerklavier!!!!! It's the everest of all sonatas!
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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #16 on: February 08, 2004, 02:20:02 PM
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i can't believe how everyone's missed the great hammerklavier!!!!! It's the everest of all sonatas!


That's one of the ones I mentioned, and I agree. It's one of the monuments of piano lit.
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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #17 on: February 09, 2004, 04:38:53 PM
Naturally, Beethoven's Pathetique surpasses them all.  But the Chopin sonatas no. 2 and 3 are also really good.  And the Mozart in A minor, I forget the K number.
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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #18 on: February 09, 2004, 06:37:51 PM
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Naturally, Beethoven's Pathetique surpasses them all.  But the Chopin sonatas no. 2 and 3 are also really good.  And the Mozart in A minor, I forget the K number.



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Re: greatest sonatas
Reply #19 on: February 11, 2004, 05:16:00 PM
brahms, and not just the 3rd, all of them (try 1st!), also beethoven 101, 106, 109 (especially 3rd part, the theme and variations), 110 (how about that fugue), 111, also op. 26 (both 3rd and 4th part are quite difficult, but try playing them one after the other! it's something like the attaca between 2nd and 3rd part in beethoven 4th concerto... i know i almost get a heart attack :))); also bartok, lipatti "sonatina" (good joke) for the left hand... and more, i don't remember right now
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