Jazz sucks. All of it.
Now there's an intelligent response which is, I'm sure, completed consistent with the statements you've made regarding opinions/ignorance/etc. in the Xenakis thread. Good thing we have good people like you to set an example. You should be proud.
I know jazz have had classes on it have to analyse things with jazz standards had to analyse jazz things there are as much if not more jazz musicians in the college where I study. I know Jazz, my opinion is based on facts and true knowledge on the thing.
Then you evidently would have found some Jazz that you were able to, if not enjoy, appreciate for the high degree of musicianship it requires. In my experience, Jazz musicians generally tend to know more about music theory and such than many Classical musicians, who struggle to figure what a C13#11 is.
No I wouldn't have, since I did not and what I said is true. As I said on another thread I think, I can admit the artistry is there sometimes, but it's still Jazz. Jazz musicians do not know more about music theory, they know everything about the theory of how to classify ONE single chord, wich is what, 1% of the world of "theory". Classical musicians own jazz ones on every single other aspect.
Stop being so childish, for started did you not consider the possibility that someone can be good at both apsects of piano playing? Also you act like it takes no skill to be a jazz pianist, well you're wrong, both classical and Jazz are highly demanding in differant areas. If you don't like Jazz that's fine, but don't go round saying that Jazz players aren't proficent pianists.
On the opposite, any great classical pianist could play Jazz as great as the jazz "masters", if not better than them because of a better previous training(classical).
You're in college!!??
With a foot in university.
My teacher said the same about Handel.
I see this is a very controversial subject...
Jazz is to classical what Mcdonald's is to great restaurants. It's trash and will allways be even if lots of people like it.
Is there some particular past experience that has caused you to despise Jazz so passionately? You're the first musician I've ever seen who hates Jazz with such intensity. Do you hate Gershwin and Kapustin too? I realize that their music isn't Jazz, but wouldn't their inspiration from what you would consider to be "trash" reflect badly on their own compositions? Just curious.
And your head up your ass.
Woaw you're so funny ...
I think one should not mix up classical composers using jazz and jazz musicians.
True in the case of Gershwin. Kapustin on the other hand was a jazz musician.
Kapustin on the other hand was a jazz musician.
They could play the notes, but that does not mean that they could play great jazz. Look at Steven Mayer's attempt at playing Tatum. Note perfect but bloody awful and sounded nothing like the originals.
"I was never a Jazz musician" - Nikolai Kapustin.
Yes but Mayer isn't exactly a first rate classical pianist, either. If Chopin was alive today do you think even the best trained and talented pianist would be able to capture the music as well as the composer himself?
If Chopin was alive today do you think even the best trained and talented pianist would be able to capture the music as well as the composer himself?
I cannot say with any certainty, of course, as I wasn't around at the time
"I am not a pianist."- Kaikhosru SorabjiSometimes statements such like this simply don't do justice to the abilities of the individual making them. I often tell people that I am not a singer -- I'm sure many would have quite a different stance on that... though I can't possibly see why!