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what does reputation mean in the profile?
on: January 27, 2009, 03:20:01 PM
In my profile, I noticed  Reputation:  1

Does it signify something?  But I don't know what it means.  Please, enlighten me.  I joined last week.  thanks !  = )  go12_3

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #1 on: January 27, 2009, 03:39:43 PM
yes I know, you have 2 now  ;) if someone finds your post useful and clicks on it you will get point of reputation  ;)

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #2 on: January 27, 2009, 05:05:22 PM
yes I know, you have 2 now  ;) if someone finds your post useful and clicks on it you will get point of reputation  ;)
Thanks so much Trish!  = )

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #3 on: January 27, 2009, 07:15:10 PM
yes I know, you have 2 now  ;) if someone finds your post useful and clicks on it you will get point of reputation  ;)

Yes, but if a member does not like your post you will be deducted 1 pt.

You will not go below 0 pts. (as shown)
But I believe that, you, or should I say I, can actually have a minus rating.
To get back into the positive, the positives will need to outweigh the negatives.

I imagine that I must be on at least -100 by now.  ::)
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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #4 on: January 27, 2009, 08:26:26 PM
It means nothing. Absolutely nothing  8)

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #5 on: January 27, 2009, 09:35:28 PM
I imagine that I must be on at least -100 by now.  ::)

-101 old chap.

I did not find your post helpful ;D
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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #6 on: January 27, 2009, 09:37:54 PM
It means nothing. Absolutely nothing  8)

You just got a point from me for that.
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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #7 on: January 27, 2009, 10:16:19 PM
-101 old chap.

I did not find your post helpful ;D


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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #8 on: January 27, 2009, 10:26:53 PM
LOL  LOL  LOL    ;D   ;D    Shortyshort, you are too funny!!!  LOL

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #9 on: January 28, 2009, 01:19:41 AM
-101 old chap.

I did not find your post helpful ;D

I've made it my mission to give you a point everytime I log in.
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Reply #10 on: January 28, 2009, 10:23:45 PM
I am touched and have given you one in return ;D
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Reply #11 on: January 28, 2009, 11:30:25 PM
I am touched and have given you one in return ;D

I too realise how much we can thank our fellow members.

I have given you 1 pt. each.

Well done lads.  8)
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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #12 on: January 29, 2009, 02:28:18 AM
Everyone in this thread just got a point.

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Reply #13 on: January 29, 2009, 09:59:11 AM
Everyone in this thread just got a point.

Why?
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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #14 on: January 29, 2009, 10:06:41 AM
Why?

I think to show just how ridiculous the system is.
It all happens on Discworld, where greed and ignorance influence human behavior... and perfectly ordinary people occasionally act like raving idiots.

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #15 on: March 17, 2009, 04:45:19 PM
I am wondering if it is at all possible to have the whole "karma points" be optional in our profiles ?  Why do we have to be getting "rated" with numbers just because we have an account here ?  Maybe it's a whole system I don't want to be any part of.  I have only ever used it for one member, and that was pretty much like casting votes to the wind, so I more or less stopped using it altogether. 

I never got a choice in the matter and I would like one  ;D.

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #16 on: March 17, 2009, 05:49:10 PM
I think Allthumbs has the highest reputation? Not surprisingly.
 I noticed I had 10...I don´t ever remember posting anything useful. Does gold membership grant you points?
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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #17 on: March 17, 2009, 06:15:57 PM
I am wondering if it is at all possible to have the whole "karma points" be optional in our profiles ?  Why do we have to be getting "rated" with numbers just because we have an account here ?  Maybe it's a whole system I don't want to be any part of.  I have only ever used it for one member, and that was pretty much like casting votes to the wind, so I more or less stopped using it altogether. 

I never got a choice in the matter and I would like one  ;D.

Just gave you a thumbs up for that suggestion.  :D
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Reply #18 on: March 17, 2009, 06:29:05 PM
Just gave you a thumbs up for that suggestion.  :D

ha ha ... *checks profile* ... why, yes, it would appear that you did  :D.

However, I actually foresaw somebody saying and doing something exactly like this, and therefore I waited until my karma points were already on an "upswing" to mention anything regarding all of this.  So, upswing or downswing, I feel the same way  :P.

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #19 on: March 17, 2009, 07:03:55 PM
I think Allthumbs has the highest reputation? Not surprisingly.
 I noticed I had 10...I don´t ever remember posting anything useful. Does gold membership grant you points?

I don't know.  I think reputation is interesting.  It goes up or down.   :P
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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #20 on: March 17, 2009, 07:10:00 PM
I don't know.  I think repuation is interesting.  It goes up or down.   :P

There are much more interesting things in life, in my opinion, than up and down.  But, regarding the up and down, what I would think is more interesting than that in and of itself would be the reason and meaning behind it, and that's completely missing.  It's too whimsical of a system in general to truly determine whether somebody's posts are actually helpful or not as well as whether anybody's anonymous opinion on that matter is actually useful or not.  Is it truly useful to me at *all* that my karma points go up and down for some reason that I know absolutely nothing about ?  I don't see the value, personally, because I have no idea who is giving or subtracting points for me nor why.  There is nothing truly constructive about it as far as I can see.  And, even if it were somehow based on something much more substantial, I would at least want a choice as to whether I were involved or not. 

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Reply #21 on: March 17, 2009, 08:39:52 PM
So, upswing or downswing, I feel the same way  :P.

Your reputation reflects what other people feel and not what you feel.

If it is not useful to you, just don't look at it.

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #22 on: March 17, 2009, 09:35:22 PM
Your reputation reflects what other people feel and not what you feel.

If it is not useful to you, just don't look at it.

Thal

Well, my point is that it's not a helpful system in and of itself, theoretically whether I look at it or not.  However, along those lines, I should have a choice about whether or not I want what people "feel" about me posted in my own profile, and I should be able to look at my own profile without the nearly meaningless numbers sitting there.  I would just like it to be an optional component of the forum, and not a mandatory one. 

I care a lot more about somebody like Marik telling me something substantial about what I write or post about, than whether or not I have random numbers in my profile for random reasons that I don't know, put there by random and anonymous people.  So, if I have minus 100 or plus 100, so be it, either way it's pretty useless as information to me since I can't actually learn anything at all from it.

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Reply #23 on: March 17, 2009, 09:46:22 PM
I agree, it is pretty useless and it was obvious to many that it was going to be from the outset.

However, things that are useless to me do not bother me, so i do not care what my reputation is.

As you consider it useless, i have no idea why it appears to bother you. Just ignore it is my advice.

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #24 on: March 17, 2009, 09:49:19 PM
Well, I am simply letting myself have a voice on the matter, since I haven't posted about it up until this point.  If my posts are useless to you, simply ignore them, or deduct my karma for it  :P

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Reply #25 on: March 21, 2009, 09:08:56 PM
Just checked it--I have 1 (for what it's worth). I am sure, before posting about Bernhard yesterday I might have had more than that  ;D ;D ;D

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Reply #26 on: March 21, 2009, 09:29:14 PM
You got 3 now old chap.

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Reply #27 on: March 21, 2009, 10:08:59 PM
Wow, I got one!    :o  How about that!   ;)

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Reply #28 on: March 22, 2009, 09:09:07 PM
 Wow!!   lol    I just opened up my profile and lookie what I got ------- 6  in my reputation.... :o  wow   :o   oh, my!     ;)    :D

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #29 on: March 22, 2009, 09:15:53 PM
You'll have to start posting rubbish, or be nasty now, just to get back to zero.

good luck.  8)

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #30 on: March 22, 2009, 09:51:46 PM
I´m trying to keep Mariks rep up but someone is systematically trying to bring it down.  :'(
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Reply #31 on: March 22, 2009, 10:14:46 PM
You'll have to start posting rubbish, or be nasty now, just to get back to zero.


I tried that, but it just got me more.

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Reply #32 on: March 22, 2009, 10:29:59 PM
I´m trying to keep Mariks rep up but someone is systematically trying to bring it down.  :'(

Thank you Petter.
If somebody believes my posts are not helpful, or have a personal vendetta, then that's fine--I don't care. I am not the one at loss  :D.

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Reply #33 on: March 25, 2009, 06:15:22 AM
Thank you Petter.
If somebody believes my posts are not helpful, or have a personal vendetta, then that's fine--I don't care. I am not the one at loss  :D.

Best, M

Bwahahaha, never observed it until this thread, but my reputation dropped from 13 yesterday to 2 at this point. Somebody here really does not like me  8)... esp. particular member  ;). I paid attention it drops once that person signs in  ;D.

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #34 on: March 25, 2009, 06:42:28 AM
I find it rather hard to believe that my reputation is still zero (or in the negative). Am I that unhelpful here?

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Reply #35 on: March 25, 2009, 11:12:26 AM
I´m trying to keep Mariks rep up but someone is systematically trying to bring it down.  :'(

Back when the whole thing just started, I had a similar experience, and shortly decided the whole thing was bogus.  Apparently somebody has nothing better to do with their time and energy than to make sure people's karma points stay at a certain level or have some sort of fluctuation.  Judging by the fact that, lately, there are not even enough regular posters to keep all of the boards active each day (including the teaching and student boards), it's difficult to believe that there are enough people around here who care enough to use the karma system to really make the whole thing be what somebody would like it to seem. 

It rather seems that AN individual or so keep it going the way the individual would like it to go, and if we judged by the results from that, apparently there are only a select few posters who have something of any value to add to the forum (the top end being held by an individual whom never posts anymore, and whom most newcomers seem to not know).  Sorry, but it's pretty fishy. 

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #36 on: March 25, 2009, 11:30:47 AM
Back when the whole thing just started, I had a similar experience, and shortly decided the whole thing was bogus.  Apparently somebody has nothing better to do with their time and energy than to make sure people's karma points stay at a certain level or have some sort of fluctuation.  Judging by the fact that, lately, there are not even enough regular posters to keep all of the boards posted in each day (including the teaching and student boards), it's difficult to believe that there are enough people around here who care enough to use the karma system to really make the whole thing be what somebody would like it to seem.  It rather seems that AN individual or so keep it going the way the individual would like it to go, and if we judged by the results from that, apparently there are only a select few posters who have something of value to add to the forum (the top end being held by an individual whom never posts anymore).  Sorry, but it's pretty fishy. 
I don't know about any "karma system" here but I am otherwise inclined to agree with you; I've not looked at this "reputation" issue per se on the forum, but I would have thought that the "reputation" of any indvidudal forum member who regularly posts here would establish itself by virtue (or otherwise!) of the nature and content of the his/her posts, subject to the caveat that such reputation would in reality be confined principally to that member's forum activity rather than in more general terms.

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Re: what does reputation mean in the profile?
Reply #37 on: March 25, 2009, 11:38:48 AM
I don't know about any "karma system" here but I am otherwise inclined to agree with you;

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Well, I mean the reputation system ... I don't really care what it's called  :P.  But, it's also 5:30 in the morning where I am at, I have been awake for two hours, and I am cooped up in a hotel room (or rather the small bathroom of a hotel room) with no access to a piano, and perhaps my circumstances are making me a little over-zealous about giving my opinion on the whole thing.  If the reputation system had its own reputation system, you could consider me to be deducting its points  :P.  Instead of being able to hide behind something like that though, I am stating my opinion in the open.

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Reply #38 on: March 25, 2009, 12:04:13 PM
Well, I mean the reputation system ... I don't really care what it's called  :P.  But, it's also 5:30 in the morning where I am at, I have been awake for two hours, and I am cooped up in a hotel room (or rather the small bathroom of a hotel room) with no access to a piano, and perhaps my circumstances are making me a little over-zealous about giving my opinion on the whole thing.
It should seem as though you ought to be sleeping but for some reason cannot, which is a shame; I'm quite sure that the small bathroom of a hotel room in the midst of a period of insomnia at 05.30 is not the best circumstance in which to be thinking about this kind of thing in any case. I hope that you get a better night's sleep tonight!

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Reply #39 on: March 25, 2009, 12:09:14 PM
It shoulds as though you ought to be sleeping but for some reason cannot, which is a shame; I'm quite sure that the small bathroom of a hotel room in the midst of a period of insomnia at 05.30 is not the best circumstance in which to be thinking about this kind of thing in any case. I hope that you get a better night's sleep tonight!

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Well, I suspect that the best thing is for me to not be giving it much thought at all, under any circumstances.  Regarding my current circumstances though, I don't believe I have insomnia, actually.  I prefer to wake at about 3:30 in the morning even when I am at home, and get started on my practice.  I am happy to fall asleep early in the evening to get what seems like enough rest for me.  I guess I just function a little differently than others in this regard.  Unfortunately, I don't have the luxury of a piano at the time, and that tends to make for poor circumstances no matter what  :P.

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Reply #40 on: March 25, 2009, 04:05:06 PM
Indeed, looking at quite low reputation points of some quite distinguished members here, one immediately can see that this is a complete bogus, and one of the main problems is that unlike other forums (where BTW, users can also leave private comments or reasons for one or another score point) the whole system is anonimous.

Either way, who cares?

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Reply #41 on: March 25, 2009, 04:53:48 PM
Indeed, looking at quite a low reputation points of some quite distinguished members here,

me only got 16! :'( and me is that distinguished, rite? ;D ;D me cares all along ;D ;D
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Reply #42 on: March 25, 2009, 08:05:35 PM
I find it rather hard to believe that my reputation is still zero (or in the negative). Am I that unhelpful here?

I think Lau might have something to do with it old chap.

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Reply #43 on: March 25, 2009, 09:12:17 PM
Either way, who cares?

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Yeah, I guess you're right.  It just makes me like this place less, for some reason; it just seems distasteful and for some reason it surprises and disappoints me a little.  But, what do I know ?  :P

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Reply #44 on: March 25, 2009, 09:26:29 PM
Yeah, I guess you're right.  It just makes me like this place less, for some reason; it just seems distasteful and for some reason it surprises and disappoints me a little.  But, what do I know ?  :P
And what do I - and what should you - care? No disrespect intended toward Nils but, as I said before, reputations should be founded solely upon the activities and contributions of those deemed to be seeking them, no more, no less - it's not some kind of competition, after all..

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Reply #45 on: March 25, 2009, 09:30:35 PM
Yeah, I guess you're right.  It just makes me like this place less, for some reason; it just seems distasteful and for some reason it surprises and disappoints me a little.  But, what do I know ?  :P

Does it seem distasteful as you have not got any??

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Reply #46 on: March 25, 2009, 09:46:17 PM
To me this rep system doesn't make any sense. Obviously some people only play games with it. And, well, a while ago, if I tried twice to give points to somebody, it said "You can't repeat a karma action without waiting one hour" now it says 6 hours :P

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Reply #47 on: March 25, 2009, 10:08:44 PM
And what do I - and what should you - care?

Well, it's supposed to be a community of some sort, is it not ?  In that respect, I think it's fair for me to care.  I think it's just a strange idea in general to have members be "rated" randomly and anonymously, it's just weird, sorry !  And, I think it's strange to build some kind of hierarchy that way. 
 
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No disrespect intended toward Nils but, as I said before, reputations should be founded solely upon the activities and contributions of those deemed to be seeking them, no more, no less - it's not some kind of competition, after all.

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Well, what's the point of numbers if somebody doesn't have the most ?  And, what's the point of the system if gaining the most numbers, or caring how many anyway a person has, doesn't add up to anything ?  I just think it's strange that this place has reduced itself that way.  That's my honest opinion.

Does it seem distasteful as you have not got any??

Thal

Actually, it is far less annoying to me to have a negative there vs. some random number, and my first comment was made when I had almost as many as I had ever had.  As I have stated before, I would actually prefer to not be involved in any way at all.  What I DO find distasteful though is the insinuation of the numbers in general, and the fact that it is very obvious that it is "tampered" with, even when it comes to other respected members.  I just don't understand why we --anybody-- have to have them at all ?  To me it just detracts from the quality of the place.

There's more I could say but I won't.

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Reply #48 on: March 25, 2009, 10:15:22 PM
There's more I could say but I won't.

I cannot imagine what more there is to say on the subject.

This is Nils site and he does what he thinks is best.

People have the right not be happy about it, but they also have the right to leave as well.

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Reply #49 on: March 25, 2009, 10:18:33 PM
This is Nils site and he does what he thinks is best.

People have the right not be happy about it, but they also have the right to leave as well.

Thal

Well, I agree  :P.  I am not trying to tell anybody what to do, as I have previously stated I am just voicing my opinion.
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Lucas Debargue - A Matter of Life or Death

Pianist Lucas Debargue recently recorded the complete piano works of Gabriel Fauré on the Opus 102, a very special grand piano by Stephen Paulello. Eric Schoones from the German/Dutch magazine PIANIST had a conversation with him. Read more
 

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