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Reply #100 on: June 17, 2009, 03:40:13 PM
Also, here is something I'd like to contribute to the mix. It is a long out of print recording of the Sauguet Piano Concerto No. 1. This is something so that you know more than just a name about Sauguet, who to this point is probably completely unknown as far as recordings to some people (no one has posted any audio files/extracts!). I don't think there should be a problem posting it here, for it is nearly impossible to find these days. Enjoy (and responses would be great).

https://rapidshare.com/files/245585939/Sauguet_-_Piano_Concerto_No._1.zip

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Reply #101 on: June 17, 2009, 05:23:52 PM
Also, here is something I'd like to contribute to the mix. It is a long out of print recording of the Sauguet Piano Concerto No. 1. This is something so that you know more than just a name about Sauguet, who to this point is probably completely unknown as far as recordings to some people (no one has posted any audio files/extracts!). I don't think there should be a problem posting it here, for it is nearly impossible to find these days. Enjoy (and responses would be great).

https://rapidshare.com/files/245585939/Sauguet_-_Piano_Concerto_No._1.zip

Thank you for sharing, I enjoyed it a lot  :)
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Re: Kill one Composer
Reply #102 on: June 17, 2009, 06:24:55 PM
I CANNOT STAND Schumann!  I've tried many times during various stages of my life to appreciate his work (Carnaval, Scenes from Childhood, Kreisleriana, Fantasiestücke), but it takes all the effort I can muster to have to endure these lengthy pieces.  Just now I am listening to Davidsbundlertanze from the Cliburn competition.  Give me a needle so I can stick it in my eye! 

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Reply #103 on: June 17, 2009, 07:01:48 PM
I CANNOT STAND Schumann!  I've tried many times during various stages of my life to appreciate his work (Carnaval, Scenes from Childhood, Kreisleriana, Fantasiestücke), but it takes all the effort I can muster to have to endure these lengthy pieces.  Just now I am listening to Davidsbundlertanze from the Cliburn competition.  Give me a needle so I can stick it in my eye! 

But Schumann is already dead! The point of this thread (although it has sort of been derailed by now) is to express why you would want a certain living composer to be dead.

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Reply #104 on: June 17, 2009, 07:56:49 PM
Also, here is something I'd like to contribute to the mix. It is a long out of print recording of the Sauguet Piano Concerto No. 1. This is something so that you know more than just a name about Sauguet, who to this point is probably completely unknown as far as recordings to some people (no one has posted any audio files/extracts!). I don't think there should be a problem posting it here, for it is nearly impossible to find these days. Enjoy (and responses would be great).

https://rapidshare.com/files/245585939/Sauguet_-_Piano_Concerto_No._1.zip

Thanks old chap, i will have a listen to this tonight. Just trying to extract me score from the loft as i like to read things whilst listening.

A recent concerto hunt revealed a concerto by Sancan. Anyone aware of this chap??

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Reply #105 on: June 17, 2009, 09:26:37 PM
I rather enjoyed the slow movement of the Sauguet. It was rather haunting and probably not the best music to listen to just before going to bed.

I am glad for the opportunity to have listened to it, but it just did not burn an impression on me that was sufficient to leave me begging for more. The last movement started with some promise but seemed to me to gradually run out of steam.

Pleasant enough though.

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Reply #106 on: June 17, 2009, 10:32:26 PM
A recent concerto hunt revealed a concerto by Sancan. Anyone aware of this chap?

That concerto is a very nice one, definitely in a neo-Romantic, yet French impressionist, spirit. It is something you would definitely like. Sancan actually just died recently (last year I think). He was known mostly for a flute sonatina, which is far too overplayed, whereas the rest of his work is practically forgotten. His works are very nice and sunny to me and definitely deserve more playing.

I actually have not heard the Sauguet yet, but I will get around to it. I am rather keen on hearing the 3rd concerto more, for it would intuitively seem to me that that would be a more mature work.

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Re: Kill one Composer
Reply #107 on: June 20, 2009, 03:20:09 AM
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Re: Kill one Composer
Reply #108 on: June 20, 2009, 06:20:05 AM
Sadly, composer Frederic Rzewski died just recently.  Apparently it was death from boredom.  He was reading War and Peace when he died.  See picture:

Get out. A quick internet search proves that he is still alive.

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Reply #109 on: June 20, 2009, 09:26:01 AM
Sadly, composer Frederic Rzewski died just recently.  Apparently it was death from boredom.  He was reading War and Peace when he died.  See picture:


That's just the level of sick comment that some of us here have sadly come to expect from you.

I wonder who might have died of irritation reading your post...

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Re: Kill one Composer
Reply #110 on: June 20, 2009, 03:54:26 PM
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Reply #111 on: June 20, 2009, 04:34:03 PM
Oh my!  Such sick humour!  I'm sorry for offending your delicate sensibilities.
Offended is hardly the appropriate word; I don't offend easily. That fact, however, makes your post no less tasteless and unnecessary than it was. It is also clear that you have certainly affected, if not actually offended, the sensibilities of Nils, since the removal of the image that you posted must surely have been done by him; it cannot have been done by me. In fact, if Nils now decides to remove all four of these posts (your two and my two), I would not be surprised; I would certainly not be "offended".

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Re: Kill one Composer
Reply #112 on: June 20, 2009, 05:25:54 PM
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Reply #113 on: June 20, 2009, 06:37:14 PM
Nils didn't remove the pic.  I did.  Why'd you think he'd remove a picture of FRED sleeping?

Just leave now. Why even bother coming back here? No one likes you or cares to read your posts seriously. This just proves it all here.

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Re: Kill one Composer
Reply #114 on: June 20, 2009, 07:37:55 PM
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Re: Kill one Composer
Reply #115 on: June 20, 2009, 07:39:59 PM
Lol, can't I have some fun? 

No, it has been eradicated from this forum.

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Reply #116 on: June 20, 2009, 08:12:15 PM
Lol, can't I have some fun?  Did I offend you by pointing out that Hamelin sucks?  I'm sorry.  Everyone's so sensitive these days!

No, it has nothing to do with the Hamelin thing. Everyone has an opinion, and I respect them, but you're just a little retard who thirsts for attention, and will do anything to get it, including something so stupid as using sick humor. If I were the moderator, you'd have been banned long ago. You have contributed nothing of value to this forum, but rather have just caused problems. Fun is fine, but not the kind of "fun" you have introduced. Where is Nils to see all this?

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Reply #117 on: June 20, 2009, 08:15:06 PM
Just leave now. Why even bother coming back here? No one likes you or cares to read your posts seriously. This just proves it all here.

No, it has nothing to do with the Hamelin thing. Everyone has an opinion, and I respect them, but you're just a little retard who thirsts for attention, and will do anything to get it, including something so stupid as using sick humor. If I were the moderator, you'd have been banned long ago. You have contributed nothing of value to this forum, but rather have just caused problems. Fun is fine, but not the kind of "fun" you have introduced. Where is Nils to see all this?



I think you speak for the rest of the forum within these two posts.
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Re: Kill one Composer
Reply #118 on: June 20, 2009, 08:44:23 PM


I think you speak for the rest of the forum within these two posts.
Indeed - I also think that he does so. I don't care who deleted those images or put them back - the principle (if one could call it that) remains intact and the entire original posting was as unnecessary and unwarranted as it was sick and tasteless. I, too, am all for some fun in appropriate places, but if anyone sees fun in talking about Rzewski's death when (a) it has not occurred and (b) its allegation makes no valid or worthwhile point about anything at all, please let us all know. No, of course no one will do that.

I would like once again to ask Nils to give serious consideration to the removal of all posts to do with this especially unsavoury episode - including mine; whether or not he might also choose to censure or ban a member is, of course, up to him alone.

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Re: Kill one Composer
Reply #119 on: June 20, 2009, 09:35:16 PM
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Re: Kill one Composer
Reply #120 on: June 20, 2009, 10:23:20 PM


Who are the fu­cking idiots here?  Idiots.  Idiots.  ::)  Did you vote for McCain, too?  Idiots.



What does his political believes have to do with this? and he can obviously reverse this comment on you and say "why? did you vote for Obama" and it would be just as valid.
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Re: Kill one Composer
Reply #121 on: June 20, 2009, 11:08:05 PM
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Reply #122 on: June 20, 2009, 11:21:02 PM
RETROUVAILLES, with a complete lack of sense of humour, failed to notice this obvious fact and investigated whether or not he truly died from boredom (lol)

That actually proves that I DO have a sense of humor, dipshit.

and then posted that he determined my post was a joke after checking Wikipedia, like any fine scholar of music would.

So I like Wikipedia. Sue me. But that isn't where I checked. I merely googled his name and looked at various websites with him mentioned.

Who are the fu­cking idiots here?  Idiots.  Idiots.  ::)  Did you vote for McCain, too?  Idiots.

Actually, I did vote for McCain. I don't want to get into politics, but do you really think Obama is the president sent from heaven that you and other brainless liberals think he is? He has just made empty promises and hasn't done anything amazing yet (who knows if they will ever get done).

Please, return to listening to bland Hamelin recordings and worshipping your Sorabji shrines.  You're the ones that should stop posting here.  Your humourlessness and verbosity are not needed here.

Believe me, I'll always listen to my Hamelin and Sorabji recordings. And you can listen to your bullcrap modernist music that you so dearly love. We each have our guilty pleasures (I'm not saying what I mentioned is our respective ones, so don't have a heart attack).

Given their obvious STUPIDITY, one would expect them to display a LAPSE IN JUDGMENT IN ALL THINGS POLITICAL.  IN FACT, IN ALL THINGS IN GENERAL.

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Reply #123 on: June 21, 2009, 07:51:30 AM
And Hinton plays the role of the offended Sarah Palin.
I play no one else's rôle. I have quite enough to do to play my own, thanks.

Hinton assumes that the removal of the picture of a sleeping person was done by Nils
It was not an unreasonableaassumption; itturns out to have been incorrect. Frankly, so what?

because it was obviously something very offensive (!) and just too much for the people of this forum.
I have not sought to speak for others about that but I did make clear that I am not personally easily offended - and I would be far more inclined to suggest that it was just too little for the people of this forum.

Who are the fu­cking idiots here?  Idiots.  Idiots.  ::)
Go find a mirror.

Did you vote for McCain, too?  Idiots.
No. Quite apart from the absence of relevance of this to the topic - or even to your post about Rzewski - it would have been rather difficult to so do legally from where I'm located.

Please, return to listening to bland Hamelin recordings and worshipping your Sorabji shrines.  You're the ones that should stop posting here.  Your humourlessness and verbosity are not needed here.
If you are as unhappy with this forum as you appear to make clear, your next step should be perfectly obvious.

At least you admit that the "joke" was stupid. You do not, however, admit that it was no joke. It may be supposed that one out of two isn't bad...

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Re: Kill one Composer
Reply #124 on: June 21, 2009, 09:54:40 AM
Hummm, where did the original thread go off to I wonder...... ::)
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Reply #125 on: June 21, 2009, 10:54:58 AM

It was not an unreasonableaassumption; itturns out to have been incorrect.

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Reply #126 on: June 21, 2009, 10:56:27 AM

 And you can listen to your bullcrap modernist music that you so dearly love.

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Reply #127 on: June 21, 2009, 11:39:23 AM
Hummm, where did the original thread go off to I wonder...... ::)

This offtopicness is more interesting  :)
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Reply #128 on: June 21, 2009, 12:35:38 PM
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Hummm, where did the original thread go off to I wonder......


This offtopicness is more interesting 
Really? I think it has gone from a rather interesting thread down to something run by a rather unwholesome way-past-consume-by date pies. I'd almost suggest to change the name of the topic to "kill one thread writer".
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Reply #129 on: June 21, 2009, 01:05:38 PM

This offtopicness is more interesting 
Really? I think it has gone from a rather interesting thread down to something run by a rather unwholesome way-past-consume-by date pies. I'd almost suggest to change the name of the topic to "kill one thread writer".

Now, that would be a delightful thread indeed!   
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Reply #130 on: June 21, 2009, 01:06:24 PM
I'd almost suggest to change the name of the topic to "kill one thread writer".

there, I did it for you  :)
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Reply #131 on: June 21, 2009, 01:38:06 PM
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I'd almost suggest to change the name of the topic to "kill one thread writer".


there, I did it for you 
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Now to get "pies" have his nickname changed into "casu marzu", and he'd have a more fitting name, since the outside still lookes like pies, but the inside is more like the inside of "pies".
Or is that too much humour, "pies"?
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Re: Kill one Composer
Reply #132 on: June 21, 2009, 03:56:55 PM
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Reply #133 on: June 21, 2009, 06:33:42 PM
Idiots.

More sick humour, meant to offend as many people as possible:

This poor wittle kitty went 2 sleep and died cuz he was so tired!!! awwwww~~~ ^_^

Just leave now. You're useless here, and this post only proves it.

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Reply #134 on: June 21, 2009, 06:36:23 PM
Just leave now. You're useless here, and this post only proves it.
You know you can *report* inappropiate posts to the moderator, just click on the lower right hand corner. 
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Reply #135 on: June 21, 2009, 06:56:37 PM
Well, that's the thing. He technically hasn't done anything that is really inappropriate yet. And besides, there's part of me who is just as immature as he is and likes to just egg him on.

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Reply #136 on: June 21, 2009, 06:58:50 PM
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Reply #137 on: June 21, 2009, 07:56:06 PM
Why do you keep on telling me to leave?  You're not a moderator here.  This isn't GFF.  Nils once asked you to leave; remember when he banned you?  Why are you here?  That's an interesting question.

I'm here because I can actually contribute to the forum in a mature manner. Nils banned me a few years ago due to a stupid circumstance, which we talked out over email, and he allowed me to come back, albeit under a different username (my choice). But this isn't about me, but about you, so don;t try to turn the situation around. I'm telling you to leave because you are just plain useless and immature here, and no one likes you or values your presence. I may not be a moderator here, but I can still ask you to leave, and he can make it official.

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Reply #138 on: June 21, 2009, 08:15:23 PM
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Reply #139 on: June 21, 2009, 08:29:41 PM
One does not have to look far to see that I have made useful contributions on this forum.  See this thread: https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,34381.0.html

You want me banned just because you don't like me.  You're taking this sh­it way too seriously.


You did make a useful contribution, yes. But you generally do not.
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Reply #140 on: June 21, 2009, 08:54:09 PM
One does not have to look far to see that I have made useful contributions on this forum.  See this thread: https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,34381.0.html

You want me banned just because you don't like me.  You're taking this sh­it way too seriously.

Yes, I agree with the previous post. You made a few contributions, yes, but those are few and far in between, and your contributions are just lists. What good is a list without some sort of elaboration? Someone could get on google and get a list. But I digress. I don't want you banned. I just want you to act a little more mature here. If you don't want to, it would just be better for you to leave before you get banned to save us all the annoyance. And, for the record, I'm not the only one here who doesn't like you.

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Reply #141 on: June 22, 2009, 06:33:10 AM
Idiots.

More sick humour, meant to offend as many people as possible:

This poor wittle kitty went 2 sleep and died cuz he was so tired!!! awwwww~~~ ^_^

Now what kind of mind would want to post a message specifically intended to offend as much people as possible? Would you like people to insult you as hard as possible?

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If you don't want to, it would just be better for you to leave before you get banned to save us all the annoyance. And, for the record, I'm not the only one here who doesn't like you.
Indeed so. In fact, the writing reminds me of a certain member of this and other Forums, who got banned there too...
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Reply #142 on: June 23, 2009, 07:13:21 AM
Yes, I agree with the previous post. You made a few contributions, yes, but those are few and far in between, and your contributions are just lists. What good is a list without some sort of elaboration?

While this forum is rife with the immaturity that comes with the territory for any internet forum, what irritates me the most is how the supposed enthusiasts of avant-garde music seem to be the biggest pains in the arse to alienate and irritate the other members and the biggest thread-derailers. In the past year, we've seen a Xenakis-lover post pictures of people eating feces, a Finnissy/Carter fan dig up libelous information on Altarus Records' owner for no apparent reason beyond the pleasure of being a vindictive douche, and now this nails-scraping annoyance (though this is at least mostly innocuous). Either way, what... This kind of bullcrap is really annoying, since it's pretty much rendered it very difficult to have a decent thread about modern music in an already-barren environment.

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Reply #143 on: June 23, 2009, 04:59:00 PM
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Reply #144 on: June 23, 2009, 05:46:58 PM
Do not group me with those SCUMBAGS.  I am not a retard.
Anyway, I'm sorry for going a bit too far in this thread.

No, you're not sorry. I know you're going to pull this same crap in due time. You're just an attention ***, and will always be.

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Reply #146 on: June 23, 2009, 06:26:48 PM
Say, how about giving pies a another chance and see what happens in due time.
Pies apologized and let it go for now. 

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Reply #147 on: June 23, 2009, 07:28:10 PM
Say, how about giving pies a another chance and see what happens in due time.
Pies apologized and let it go for now.  

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You obviously haven't been here a very long time. Ever since I can remember, pies has been at his usual annoying antics without any sort of let up. The same goes for a few other members (whom indutrial mentioned). There is just no point in trusting them. And besides, it's the internet. You shouldn't trust anyone anyways, most especially on a public forum.

Well anyways, with that out of the way, let's say we get back to the original topic? What living composer have you had enough of and would like to see the end of?

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Reply #148 on: June 23, 2009, 07:33:00 PM
we shouldn't kill any composer. we need more of them. takes alot of milk to get good cream
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Reply #149 on: June 23, 2009, 07:45:20 PM
we shouldn't kill any composer. we need more of them. takes alot of milk to get good cream


yes but 10 chefs ruin the broth.



Well anyways, with that out of the way, let's say we get back to the original topic? What living composer have you had enough of and would like to see the end of?

I have had enough of Busotti.
"The stock markets go up and down, Bach only goes up"

-Vladimir Feltsman
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Piano Street Magazine:
New Piano Piece by Chopin Discovered – Free Piano Score

A previously unknown manuscript by Frédéric Chopin has been discovered at New York’s Morgan Library and Museum. The handwritten score is titled “Valse” and consists of 24 bars of music in the key of A minor and is considered a major discovery in the wold of classical piano music. Read more
 

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