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« on: April 04, 2011, 11:59:38 PM »

Something just came to mind - would you be interested in contributing to complete performance of Chopin Etudes Opp. 10 & 25, by pianostreet, for pianostreet?

The idea is to have 24 unique performers each contributing one's own performance of an etude of his/her choosing. There should be a rough timeline until completion, perhaps ~2 months should give ample time for preparation? Since I start this thread, I get first dibs - hehehe - we can always trade later. Anyway, I'm thinking of taking Op. 25 no. 6. I just recently started learning this, so I'm not cheating at all!

Here we go (I'll update the list as we go along):

Op. 10
1. pianowolfi
2. pianowolfi, furtwaengler, Mayla
3. quantum
4. cygnusdei
5. fleetfingers, ted
6. mnmleung
7. furtwaengler
8. MachineMe, furtwaengler
9. ongaku_oniko MonstyMachine, pianisten1989
10. furtwaengler
11. MonstyMachine
12. pianisten1989, ted

Op. 25
1. Mayla, fleetfingers, ted
2. cygnusdei
3. furtwaengler
4. furtwaengler, nanabush
5. roxyroo98
6. cygnusdei, Mayla, ted
7. pianisten1989
8. MonstyMachine
9. MachineMe
10 Mayla, nanabush
11. ted
12. Foxy, quantum

Nouvelles études
(Fm) 1. pianowolfi
(A♭) 2. liszt1022
(D♭) 3. MonstyMachine

Are you up for the challenge? Huh? Huh ...?

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UPDATE

Project 27 is now free for all (selection overlaps OK)
Deadline for submission is June 14, 2011 (for motivation, not "drop dead")
One rule: post *your own* performance Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2011, 02:24:49 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2011, 02:34:29 AM »

Oh, it's been brought!  Shocked

Cool, why don't we put Foxy (?) first dibs on Op. 25 #1 - if no one else claims #10 & 12 you can take them too. Or do you want to change your first preference?

This is gonna be good .....
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2011, 02:39:24 AM »

Good idea. Pianostreet debut CD Cheesy

I'd do op. 10 no.5, except I don't think I can play at a satisfactory level to be in the list...

I will be working on op. 10 no.9 starting in may, when it's summer break so I might be able to finish it in a month... and we'll see how that goes
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2011, 02:44:42 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2011, 02:46:02 AM »


I will be working on op. 10 no.9 starting in may, when it's summer break so I might be able to finish it in a month... and we'll see how that goes
I LOVE that one! I think it's one of my favourites!

Oh and I'd love to participate except I'm not advanced enough for these etudes yet. What about including the Trois Nouvelles Etudes? Tongue Or could we start a pianostreet nocturnes project too?  Grin Even though I doubt I play well enough to be a part of that either....

Anyway...  Roll Eyes I think this is a really good idea, I can't wait to see how it turns out!
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2011, 02:52:15 AM »

Awesome - Foxy now takes dibs on Op. 25 #12, and ongaku_oniko on Op. 10 #5.

I also add the Nouvelles études - why not, it's gonna be complete Chopets!

Keep 'em coming guys, first come first serve  Kiss
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2011, 02:56:46 AM »

Awesome - Foxy now takes dibs on Op. 25 #12, and ongaku_oniko on Op. 10 #3.

I also add the Nouvelle études - why not, it's gonna be complete Chopets!

Keep 'em coming guys, first come first serve  Kiss
Apparently there's some numbering issues on the nouvelle etudes... Sometimes #2 and #3 are switched =/ So maybe you should put the keys to avoid confusion. Just a suggestion Smiley
Oh and maybe setting a deadline. If life were perfect I'd love to join, I'm just nervous about the date
 
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2011, 03:00:10 AM »

I think it's a little safer to put me on the 9th or 6th right now... I'll post a recording of my black keys at the end of april and you guys can see if it's good enough then, but I highly doubt it.

Thinkgreen: You can start a sonatina project so littletunes can join in Smiley I like Beethoven's sonatina in G (I think it was?) It's in the 2001 Celebration Series Grade 5... can't really remember how to play it though
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2011, 03:05:29 AM »

Cool - ongaku now takes Op. 10 #9.

thinkgreen: good point about the numbering of the Nouvelles études - I added the key signatures. BTW the one in D flat looks rather difficult!
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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2011, 03:05:48 AM »

I think it's a little safer to put me on the 9th or 6th right now... I'll post a recording of my black keys at the end of april and you guys can see if it's good enough then, but I highly doubt it.

Thinkgreen: You can start a sonatina project so littletunes can join in Smiley I like Beethoven's sonatina in G (I think it was?) It's in the 2001 Celebration Series Grade 5... can't really remember how to play it though
Neither do I... After I learned my last sonatina (Grade 6??) I quit piano lessons. (Well actually I didn't quit, my mom just canceled them). So that was years ago.
But that is a good idea! But then would the sonatinas be by 1 composer? I don't know what littletune is learning. And I'd still have to learn.. fast. Classical period= my weakest period. I always score lowest on that for exams. I'm more of a Baroque girl  Cool

@cygnusdei... sorry for spamming your thread! I'm going to leave now, and try out that Nouvelle Etude, and see if its even possible for me to learn in 2 months.
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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2011, 07:33:48 AM »

We did something similar with Beethoven Sonatas, but that never got off the ground.

Regretfully I am studying the Thalberg Etudes so I cannot contribute to this.

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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2011, 08:28:20 AM »

I had a plan to play all op 10 before autumn. Hopefully I'll nail atleast one :´P

Right now, I can contribute with op 10/12 and op 25/7
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2011, 03:03:55 PM »

Very good - pianisten1989 now owns Op. 10 no. 12. If no one claims Op. 25 no. 7 you can take it as well, or do you want this as first preference?
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2011, 12:30:36 PM »

The op 25/7 is mine!
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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2011, 06:08:45 PM »


Thinkgreen: You can start a sonatina project so littletunes can join in Smiley I like Beethoven's sonatina in G (I think it was?) It's in the 2001 Celebration Series Grade 5... can't really remember how to play it though
Thanks Ongaku Oniko for thinking about me! Smiley Well I still play just really easy pieces  Embarrassed  Smiley Maybe  someone should start a "baby pieces" project and then I would sure join in!  Smiley
I hope you guys will really do this! It sounds really cool!  Cool
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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2011, 07:09:27 PM »

I'd be happy to contribute with op. 10,2. I can't promise anything, since I have a load of other things to do, but I'll give it a try.
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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2011, 07:36:07 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2011, 08:03:36 PM »

I just recently started learning this, so I'm not cheating at all!

Does this imply a rule that everyone participating has to start now (roughly) in learning their etude, as opposed to submitting one they've already mastered?
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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2011, 08:10:46 PM »

Does this imply a rule that everyone participating has to start now (roughly) in learning their etude, as opposed to submitting one they've already mastered?

I'm glad you asked that, especially as the only concrete time frame mentioned (that I'm aware of) was approximately two months (in cygnusdei's original post).  That's a generous amount of time for recalling, polishing and recording a previously-learned piece, but a very limited period in which to learn a completely new one.
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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2011, 08:35:06 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2011, 08:36:38 PM »

YIP!

Yeah, I've got loads, too (in my opinion), but this is part of my load anyway.  Mine is not a promise, but rather a chance to catch my buns a little bit onto fire!

*displays make believe appropriate emoticon*

Similar here Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2011, 09:04:51 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2011, 11:25:25 PM »

I guess pianisten1989 just upped the going rate to 2 etudes. Bring it!  Grin

As far as 'rules' go I guess the only rule is that you have to post *your own* performance, hehehe. Other than that, do your best, have fun, and show us what you're made of!

The 2 months thing is just a rough timeline, first we need to finalize the list of pianostreet chopet hall of fame.....

pianowolfi: you're on!

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« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2011, 01:45:04 AM »

Damn... I'd love to record one of these pieces, but since I broke my G string on the piano - it's sounded like crap since I got it replaced. And this is despite having it tuned only a week ago.

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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2011, 02:33:11 AM »

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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2011, 04:30:48 AM »

Hmmm,  a little competition, eh? Be prepared to be crushed! Okay, let's make it free for all then. Foxy aka Mayla: you're on!

Let's give it until a week from today (04/13) for the open invitation. Then on to the practice/prep period (2 months?), then we'll probably need Nils' help to move the thread to the audition board where we can post recordings.

Now I'm on the fence about taking Op. 10. no. 4 ....... hmmm ..... Cool
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2011, 04:57:06 AM »

If you're counting the Nouvelles Etudes, shouldn't it be Project 27?

If so, I'd like to be included with the one in A-flat. #2 on your list, #3 in my Paderewski edition.
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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2011, 05:12:33 AM »

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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2011, 05:13:07 AM »

Well, now it's officially Project 27, cool!

I can't change the original thread title though ....
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« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2011, 01:22:15 PM »

Oh, Littletune,

I would love to start some project of "baby pieces" and record them for here.  I've in fact considered that all on my own in the past couple of months, actually, simply because I feel I need that experience in some way, and this might be a perfect setting for me.  So, if I would be allowed to join you, I'd love to start something like that with you (well, or I might start my very own ... hee hee).

That's soooo cool that you want to join too Mayla!!  Cool  Tongue  Smiley Well I saw that Onkagu Oniko already started a thread for "baby pieces"  Smiley So... I guess we can start with that Smiley  Tongue  Cool (I guess we just have to decide which pieces we will be playing).  Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2011, 07:02:01 PM »

Hmmm.  10/3, 25/10 or 25/12 are possibilities.  Not promising a recording though, as I am swamped with work.
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« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2011, 10:13:24 PM »

Hi quantum - I'm giving a little nudge by signing you up for Op. 10 no. 3 .... nudge nudge ...
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« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2011, 04:01:05 AM »

Has everyone been practicing? Well I have, and my fingers are getting a good workout!

My Op. 25 no. 6 is coming along pretty nicely - I feel that the sparse texture allows ample pedaling, which in turn allows some 'fakery' i.e. mushy passages. I'm trying to avoid that though.
I just started revisiting Op. 10 no. 4 - I'm gonna start slow and steady to secure my fingering.

Anyone else have practice stories?
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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2011, 04:09:05 AM »

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« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2011, 02:02:28 PM »

Are you still trying to get new pianists to cover the remaining 17 etudes, or do you think we'll end up repeating performers on some tracks?

About MF A-flat, I work best with a deadline, so I've done some preliminary work on it but no memorization yet.
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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2011, 06:14:04 AM »

Anyone is still welcome to join, but you're right, we should set a deadline. So, 2 months from today will be June 14!

One thing came to mind - what if we post "before" and "after" recordings? Wouldn't that be interesting to hear how much 2 months make a difference?

I'm willing to post the "before" for Op. 10 no. 4, warts and all.
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2011, 03:12:45 PM »

I'm learninng Op. 25 N. 9 (Butterfly Wings)

Im getting crazy with it, and i need help. I've learnead only 4 bars in 1 week. Undecided
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« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2011, 03:29:25 PM »

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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2011, 04:58:09 PM »

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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2011, 09:10:31 PM »

Mayla, kudos for posting the recordings. You seem to have a lot of practice time - I envy you!

Anyway, here is me faking through Op. 10 no. 4. It's obvious that I need to slow down and relearn it note-by-note, especially the left hand passages. Check back with me in 2 months!

* Etude in C# minor, Op. 10. no. 4 (04.mp3 (2381.66 KB - downloaded 72 times.)
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« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2011, 09:44:29 PM »

wow... how'd you do that, cygnusdei?

I tried learning the 4th, played the first line, a bit faster than you even, but it sounds NOTHING like what it's supposed to sound like..

How'd you get it to sound properly when it's played so slow?
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« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2011, 04:59:55 AM »

Very cool! This project is fun!
I might post my before version tonight or tomorrow.
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« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2011, 01:59:56 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: April 16, 2011, 07:38:56 PM »

Well Op. 10. no. 4 is marked Presto, so playing it slow will break the momentum and it's going to sound strange. What I notice though, not necessarily this piece, that there is such a thing as too fast! - that's when the pulse of the music is lost and articulations are not effective anymore. Minute difference in articulation can dramatically change the character of the music.

It's that, or my piano is better than yours .... Smiley

BTW ongaku, are you still interested in Op. 10 no. 5 & 6?

Thinkgreen: how about them Nouvelles études?
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« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2011, 09:06:53 PM »



Thinkgreen: how about them Nouvelles études?

I don't think I can do them, unfortunately... I mean it's not going to be ready in a month.  I have really important school exams in May and June, as well as a piano recital in May and 2 in June. So I don't really have the time Sad I've been trying the one in d flat major and it sounds... not like music at all.
If only I'd listened to my teacher when she suggested I learn the D flat major one a while ago... maybe it'd be ready now. Cheesy but I picked another study instead. Sad
Sorry... maybe liszt1022 can just play them all ? Smiley
I'm still going to keep practising, if a miracle happens and no one has taken etude no. 3 by then, I'll let you know Wink

PS: I listened to the recordings and it sounds like its going well.... good luck with the practicing Smiley I'm excited to hear everyone's "final" recording, even though I won't be a part of this project. Tongue
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« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2011, 11:51:35 PM »

I am doing no.5 atm, but I'm not sure if I will ever be able to get it up at an acceptable standard. there's no way i'll be able to make no.6 in two months, however.
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