Did the United States of America attack itself? 911
But with the Internet information is spread and those that want truth can be informed. The US authorities are infuriated that this happens, look at their activities blocking donations to wikileaks and their persecution of my fellow Aussie founder Julian Assange.
Illustrating a motive doesn't give truth to it.
As a US citizen I'm definitely not ignorant to some ridiculous US foreign policy and how it's misrepresented in the news, but that doesn't make it a conspiracy.
. Just as an FYI though, there are much better countries to invade for financial profit than Iraq and Afghanistan.
There are much better ways to make more money from insider trading than attacking your country.
In regards to:"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."The building wasn't demolished, so how could he admit to it? His statement is blatantly misrepresented.
He was discussing with the fire chief as to whether or not to fight the fire that was burning the building down.
Lastly, Silverstein fascinatingly had an insurance policy on a building he leased. Kind of similar to EVERY real estate investor. The insurance policy covered acts of terror like many large real estate investments. Remember the Oklahoma City bombing? Wouldn't it make perfect sense to have a terrorism clause on an insurance policy for a major building? Oh, and not to even mention that the WTC ITSELF had already been the victim of a terror attempt? He is being 'paid' $4.55b in insurance while rebuilding a site that is costing him $6.3b. Wow, that sure worked out for him.
The problem with these sources is that they often show coincidences without showing big picture aspects, and then claim the coincidences as proof. Please refer to my lectures in the arthritis thread about data mining.
Those that want truth can also be misinformed.Of course the US authorities are infuriated when their classified documents are released. Umm, I bet if I went and posted your porn history and all that awkward sh*t you did during puberty on the internet, wouldn't you be pissed? Clearly it would make you look bad. Or, someone could post that time Charles Manson gave some kid an ice cream cone and fail to mention the rest of the crap he did.
Democracy is supposed to be honest and just, the leaks show that it is not and is a sham.Misinformation of 911 has had over a decade to percolate, a lot of misinfo has already been identified and also shows how it was encouraged by the government itself with their Internet schemes.
Can you refer this to something specific.
Conspiracy is a very misrepresented word which tries to make the questioners look like kookie madmen. Wy do you think they misrepresent it? Do you think that controlling the masses with misinformation is a democratic thing to do?
Tell me which other candidates are there to exploit under the guise of war on terror?For example? War is in the trillions of dollars.Would the word "evacuate" be appropriate? Pull is a term used in demolition. I have never heard someone say "pull it" to mean evacuate, they may say "pull out". Larry is a high class eloquent businessman.
I have never heard of buildings burning down to the ground and would love to see evidence of other high rise buildings collapsing perfectly onto themselves because of fire, I have not seen any evidence except from the three collapses on 911. How does one explain the super fine dust which scientists measured as being very strange for a building collapse.It did work out very well for him, instead of renovating he is rebuilding, the value of what he builds is much greater than the old towers. The old towers had a lot of empty floors.Many small pieces create this big picture however. What coincidences are you referring to?
I'm not contributing, just popped in to shout out a big "hello" to all our new CIA readers.
They are already watching you on your webcam.
I am approaching this thread in a different manner. Lloyd please excuse me if I do not address your comments with quotes, I'd rather not argue and just share our stances. I have debated the issue on 911 research forums enough and don't need to argue points here too, I just like to see peoples opinions.
So where does everybody get their information on which to base their questions and doubts? Is anyone on the inside? Do you believe that what you hear or read is accurate?
For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief. (c)
1) Did the Bush Administration (or powers that controlled it) attack their own people in New York and the Pentagon 9/11/2001 to propel their campaign for a "War on Terror"? 2) Do you think that this "War on Terror" is really a war on terror? One other question I'd like to ask Americans 3) Do you feel more safe and secure in your country or does it overall feel no different, like Springfield's Bear Patrol or Lisa Simpson's Tiger-Repellant Rock?
Dear me. Haven't we had enough of this nonsense? First, on the questions...On question 1. No. Just plain no. And I might add that I have always -- always -- found in studying conspiracy theories of all stripes that they say a good deal more about the people who espouse the theories than they do about reality.On question 2. I think "war on terror" is probably a rather poor slogan, but I didn't invent it. What the fundamental situation is, however, is a very interesting study in a highly assymetric conflict between, on the one hand, a rather small group of dedicated (I could say fanatical, but that's a loaded term) individuals trying to impose their vision on as many people as possible and, on the other hand, a very large group of people who don't really want that to happen but who, not being as dedicated, find it very difficult to oppose effectively.On question 3. No. And to this extent the 9/11 attack, and subsequent attacks elsewhere (e.g. London, 7/7), have succeeded. Most of the european style world has sacrificed a very large measure of freedom for a negligible gain in safety.As to many of the other comments... the engineering analysis of the failure of the twin towers, which I have read and which I am qualified to read and understand, is perhaps the most thorough analysis of a structural failure as I have ever seen. There was nothing found to suggest that the collapse was the result of anything other than fuel fed fires of large intensity affecting the structural strength of columns in their vicinity. Period. I strongly recommend that you read the original report -- it is very long and very technical -- rather than depending on somewhat dubious internet and media sources.Semper Fi, y'all
The building was insured against terrorist attacks how many weeks before?..6? not one insurance policy, but two..
The reason no one has read the engineering report is that it is longer than 10 words.
Where were you? Were you on a navy base? What's CET? It was about 9 in the morning i remember.
UEFA games always start at 2045 CET. Why? I don't know.
Everyone tries to make it 19:45 UK time (= 20:45 CET). Can you imagine what that is like in Russia on a working day? P.S.: I don't like soccer very much, so I don't suffer personally...Paul
Give me another hint.
Got it. It had already happened when you found out. In fact, the buildings had already fallen. And you get up late...
lloyd you are my hero. Lostinidlewonder, half of the "sources" you have put forth are nothing more than conspiracy blogs and forums. no better than wikipedia.
Logical deduction is also an approach. You can also have a look in oxy60's profile. Even if we assume that the data there could be fake, a targeted Google search reveals that he left no doubt about his location (5 pages of results for this forum only). If that is all fake, then I propose him to run for president... [Sorry for the off-topic, guys.]Paul
You are right Birba that one person is not enough. But with the Internet information is spread and those that want truth can be informed. The US authorities are infuriated that this happens, look at their activities blocking donations to wikileaks and their persecution of my fellow Aussie founder Julian Assange.I am bring it up because the information now is as clear as ever. The misinformation spread is being revealed and the truths are standing stronger and stronger. The amount of high profile people who disagree with the 911 commission is very disturbing. The smoke has cleared, the bullshit is losing its power very fast thanks to the Internet.
Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say "rome time". But if you do make an appointment with someone, you might as well turn your watch BACK a half-hour.
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