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Offline pencilart3

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Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
« on: November 05, 2015, 02:06:36 AM »
Emily said that her Liszt TE 12 was better than my Chopin preludes, so... which is better? Let PS have the final word!


Emily's TE 12...

"Chasse Neige" https://soundcloud.com/dong-harris/chasse-neige

2 of my Chopin preludes....

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #1 on: November 05, 2015, 02:25:54 AM »
Emily said that her Liszt TE 12 was better than my Chopin preludes, so... which is better? Let PS have the final word!


Emily's TE 12...

"Chasse Neige" https://soundcloud.com/dong-harris/chasse-neige

2 of my Chopin preludes....

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BS, I never said my Chasse-neige was better, I only said I ruined it not more than you. See for yourself, PS Members.

BTW I voted for myself just because I can.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #2 on: November 05, 2015, 02:29:59 AM »
BS, I never said my Chasse-neige was better, I only said I ruined it not more than you. See for yourself, PS Members.

BTW I voted for myself just because I can.

Starting to doubt your skills?
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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #3 on: November 05, 2015, 02:36:29 AM »
Starting to doubt your skills?

Starting to doubt your skills?

Ive always doubted my skills.

Don't you remember the b!tch teacher posts.... *sigh, so dumb and forgetful *

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #4 on: November 05, 2015, 03:15:10 AM »
Ive always doubted my skills.



lol...   sad isn't it--that you play so well yet doubt your skills...  that's why it's so difficult to understand how in hell someone could learn 8 measures of a Chopin etude, or play a little tune they made up on their keyboard and honestly believe that makes them a "musical genius."
it's unfathomable to someone who actually plays.

btw  both of you play beautifully...    :)  very impressive. WOW.   


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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #5 on: November 05, 2015, 03:28:25 AM »
Hey Noah,

   Id suggest you quit piano. Its for your own good, just saying.

     Best wishes,
       Troll


I'm not actually Aimi, but I may be Ivett

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #6 on: November 05, 2015, 03:30:13 AM »
Hey Noah,

   Id suggest you quit piano. Its for your own good, just saying.

     Best wishes,
       Troll


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Burned, that was actually me.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #7 on: November 05, 2015, 03:31:38 AM »
I came here to say, Pencilart is the bomb, and Rubisnteinmad is a piece of s h I t.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #8 on: November 05, 2015, 04:40:04 AM »
I think you both just need to grow up a bit  ::)

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #9 on: November 05, 2015, 05:42:11 AM »
I voted without listening.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #10 on: November 05, 2015, 05:43:11 AM »
Now I will listen to them.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #11 on: November 05, 2015, 06:03:39 AM »
Ok I'm going to give some constructive feedback.

Emily ;D your use of rubato to highlight every harmony change is unnecessary. You can show the interesting harmonies with colors!! the rubato messes with the structure of the piece. Oh and if You had been thinking about when to stop the recording, then I bet that affected your focus as well. And even so, the abrupt end to the recording was in the worst spot possible. It was anticlimactic and emotionally unsatisfying.

Noah (first time I've called you that) your playing is in much better taste :P though in the B flat minor prelude, despite the fact that it's such a difficult piece, you REALLY need to make sure your arms are relaxed! While this is kind of a niche "Russian" thing, try letting your arm guide your hand a little more than the articulation of each finger (while not becoming too floppy of course ;D)

For "musicality" Pencilart is the clear winner here ;D

For "technique" Noah has the aforementioned "issues" but the playing is much more impressive; Emily, while being able to play tremolandi very effortlessly doesn't have much else to show in those two minutes of the Chasse-neige... Oh my this is a tough contest!

I think Noah wins quite a bit though overall... That's who I'm casting my vote for. Sorry Emily, we're still friends, it's not personal... ;D

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #12 on: November 05, 2015, 05:45:49 PM »
Yay thanks Schumaniac, haha. And I think your username is cool BTW ;) I will take a look at your feedback! And Emily shut up about Aimi and you probably just made that account so you could vote for yourself...
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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #13 on: November 05, 2015, 06:04:16 PM »
Neither because music isn't about competition. Just go enjoy your music.

- AJ

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #14 on: November 05, 2015, 06:27:34 PM »
Neither because music isn't about competition. Just go enjoy your music.

- AJ

for the record this is my view on this as well..   

LOL--Off the record.. Noah is the winner.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #15 on: November 05, 2015, 07:16:58 PM »
Neither because music isn't about competition. Just go enjoy your music.

- AJ

EMILY SAID HERS WAS BETTER THAN MINE AND CHALLENGED ME TO THIS STUPID LITTLE COMPETITION OK?

hopefully she is feeling humbled by now

Edit: and come to think about it, Bach and Chopin themselves engaged in competitions.
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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #16 on: November 05, 2015, 07:55:37 PM »

if I remember correctly, Handel was almost killed in a duel... from an argument over who was able to play the harpsichord better!!

this crap has been around for a while. ;D

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #17 on: November 05, 2015, 08:04:00 PM »
"England is a country of pianos, they are everywhere."

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #18 on: November 05, 2015, 08:05:37 PM »
+1

Why did you say that?? What good is voting without listening?
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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #19 on: November 05, 2015, 08:34:38 PM »
EMILY SAID HERS WAS BETTER THAN MINE AND CHALLENGED ME TO THIS STUPID LITTLE COMPETITION OK?


That is not true.
(1) I only said I wasn't worse than you.
(2) You were the one who challenged me; I was the one who agreed.

Stop DECEIVING people, you sinner. Jesus died for us, but NOT so that you could sin all you want.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #20 on: November 05, 2015, 08:35:39 PM »
 


For "musicality" Pencilart is the clear winner here ;D


Shut. Up. You have no idea what musicality is.

On the other hand, my musicality WAS messed up by that b!tch teacher. But hey- how can it be worse than encilart3's?  ::)

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #21 on: November 05, 2015, 08:36:25 PM »
Hey Noah,

   Id suggest you quit piano. Its for your own good, just saying.

  

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #22 on: November 05, 2015, 08:42:15 PM »
You two are such children. lol...

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #23 on: November 05, 2015, 08:44:07 PM »
But since this website has declined to the point of return, I might as well join the club. I win  ;D

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«Reply #24 on: November 05, 2015, 08:44:35 PM »
But since this website has declined to the point of return, I might as well join the club. I win  ;D

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Fight your own battles.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #25 on: November 05, 2015, 08:45:28 PM »
Just so you know, kypiano is actually my troll account, and I used him to vote for Noah, so the reason Noah has more votes is because I was generous enough to vote for him using my troll account. Ill confirm it soon.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #26 on: November 05, 2015, 08:48:26 PM »
Confirmed.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #27 on: November 05, 2015, 08:49:08 PM »
No one really cares haha... You both are great pianists. Can we leave it at that?

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #28 on: November 05, 2015, 08:50:25 PM »

Shut. Up. You have no idea what musicality is.

On the other hand, my musicality WAS messed up by that b!tch teacher. But hey- how can it be worse than encilart3's?  ::)
what even, do you have something against me?

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #29 on: November 05, 2015, 08:50:55 PM »
But since this website has declined to the point of return, I might as well join the club. I win  ;D


I challenge....

this vid has 248k views that says it's better and I am the musical genius... lol... I WIN




and I can't believe I have stooped this low... LOL

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #30 on: November 05, 2015, 08:52:38 PM »


and I can't believe I have stooped this low... LOL

You have stooped low, indeed, to hear pencilart's Prelude #16  ::)
Feeling back pain now?

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«Reply #31 on: November 05, 2015, 08:54:10 PM »
what even, do you have something against me?

Weel if you think Youlan Ji's playing is "mature and reserved", then maybe

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #32 on: November 05, 2015, 08:55:06 PM »
actually I am at the moment enjoying AJ's Ballade

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #33 on: November 05, 2015, 08:55:35 PM »
I challenge....

this vid has 248k views that says it's better and I am the musical genius... lol... I WIN




and I can't believe I have stooped this low... LOL

Haha deal, you beat me this time. Just give two more years ;)

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #34 on: November 05, 2015, 08:59:09 PM »
You two are such children. lol...
You two are such children. lol...

Well I'm not even a teenager, but Noah should be entering adulthood any time now. He shouldn't be behaving as immature as me.


Wow I'm talking like an obnoxious censor.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #35 on: November 05, 2015, 09:02:17 PM »
quote author=schumaniac link=topic=59988.msg644009#msg644009 date=1446703419]
Ok I'm going to give some constructive feedback.

Emily ;D your use of rubato to highlight every harmony change is unnecessary. You can show the interesting harmonies with colors!! the rubato messes with the structure of the piece. [/quote]

That's good advice, if I actually knew the official definition of color ::)

But yeah, the rubato in that recording was excessive.

Theres a "Take 2" that Pencilart3 avoided for a reason.....

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #36 on: November 05, 2015, 09:33:09 PM »
Haha deal, you beat me this time. Just give two more years ;)

Actually I would beat you if a lot of YT views also meant a lot of talent...  sadly talent and views really don't correlate at all much of the time.  lol.

I have those views because I got very very LUCKY and:

1.  I opened my YT account 9 years ago
2.  I used a super 8 camera, nice lighting, and a pretty piano when everyone else was using a webcam and a keyboard.
3.  I played Linus and Lucy from the Peanuts cartoons.. well.
4.  and somehow.. someone from YT really liked my vids..because I was featured... a bunch.  

even though the views are old... billing myself as a "youtube sensation with 1.7 million views"   still works to get me gigs... quite well. :)


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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #37 on: November 05, 2015, 10:23:36 PM »
The prelude 16 seemed uneven so that took away from it for me. I liked the performance of prelude 1, perfecto ;) ;). Pencilart seemed really into it which was cool and controlled the flow really well  ;)

Rubenstein mad needs to upload a video of her playing the piano, at least so we can see her hands to have a spot in the competition  ;). I don't see how she loses in musicality though, I don't think there's much musicality you can actually express in the Chopin preludes compared to the Chasse Neige ...  :-X :-X :-X because the Liszt seems more complex  :-X :-X and in my opinion her playing seemed really musical, so I guess all that rubato may have paid off in certain areas  8).

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #38 on: November 05, 2015, 10:30:29 PM »
I challenge....

this vid has 248k views that says it's better and I am the musical genius... lol... I WIN




and I can't believe I have stooped this low... LOL
Wow, thats really good imo

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #39 on: November 05, 2015, 11:03:28 PM »
The prelude 16 seemed uneven so that took away from it for me. I liked the performance of prelude 1, perfecto ;) ;). Pencilart seemed really into it which was cool and controlled the flow really well  ;)

Thanks swagmaster! I can play prelude 16 so much better now, but the judgment was over "who ruined them more". haha
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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #40 on: November 05, 2015, 11:08:18 PM »
Jesus died for us, but NOT so that you could sin all you want.

That's right. And if you are joking about it, that is NOT funny and it is very rude.
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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #41 on: November 05, 2015, 11:25:58 PM »
Weel if you think Youlan Ji's playing is "mature and reserved", then maybe
did I write that?
yeah her playing is is quite mature... at least she has a sense of line ::)

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«Reply #42 on: November 05, 2015, 11:43:00 PM »
That's right. And if you are joking about it, that is NOT funny and it is very rude.

That's right. And if you are joking about it, that is NOT funny and it is very rude.

From the Ten Commandments:
You should not deceive.

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«Reply #43 on: November 05, 2015, 11:44:38 PM »
did I write that?
yeah her playing is is quite mature... at least she has a sense of line ::)
did I write that?
yeah her playing is is quite mature... at least she has a sense of line ::)

I think her playing is plain(bland) and boring; many people have a sense of line too.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #44 on: November 05, 2015, 11:45:57 PM »
From the Ten Commandments:
You should not deceive.

Yes I know, I thought you said "not as bad as you ruined Chopin's preludes" turns out you said "no worse than you ruined Chopin's preludes". It was a mistake. Oh well it appears I won so I am happy.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #45 on: November 05, 2015, 11:47:54 PM »
Yes I know, I thought you said "not as bad as you ruined Chopin's preludes" turns out you said "no worse than you ruined Chopin's preludes". It was a mistake. Oh well it appears I won so I am happy.



I never said I was not as bad. You should reread what I wrote.

Besides, I win in the long run, because by he time you reach Feux-follets you'll find yourself unable to learn the 1st measure.


#hashbrown

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #46 on: November 05, 2015, 11:48:48 PM »
Besides, winning against a former student of that b!tch teacher is not a very prestigious win  ::)

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #47 on: November 06, 2015, 12:04:35 AM »
That's right. And if you are joking about it, that is NOT funny and it is very rude.
I agree.

Rubinsteinmad, you need to stop being so stuck-up. Though to be fair, I was quite a bit when I was 12.
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adjective informal
staying aloof from others because one thinks one is superior.
Here's a little bit about me: I believed in "musical conspiracy theories" and I criticized and insulted every single thing on earth. And I didn't have much respect for other people either- I was frankly quite racist and thought I was "above" everybody (e.g. anyone who didn't like classical music; somehow I thought I was so much more sophisticated than all my friends!). Oh, and, I used to offend people without giving a sh-t, in very much the same way that I think you did to Noah. But gradually I learned that if you respect people and see the "good" parts in them, you learn a lot more and I guess you can say you get a lot more out of your life. And if you don't agree with an opinion (especially if that opinion is the majority, or the consensus), you take off your tinfoil hat and you try your best to see other people's reasoning! (unless that opinion is "the NWO will happen" or "Donald Trump is god)
So no, I am not trying to be condescending and "holier-than-thou;" I know exactly where you're coming from and I've been there too! And it's not good to be like that. You alienate everybody around you.

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Re: Pencilart vs. Rubinsteinmad
«Reply #48 on: November 06, 2015, 12:06:19 AM »
THAT TOOK A MILLION YEARS TO TYPE WHAT AM I DOING WITH MY TIME

and well you don't have a sense of line... and if you are willing to listen her playing is quite refined and interesting. I didn't think she was going to win though and her playing was not NEARLY as attention grabbing as Arsenii in that competition... I don't love it, but to dismiss as bland...? no...

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«Reply #49 on: November 06, 2015, 12:07:35 AM »
THAT TOOK A MILLION YEARS TO TYPE WHAT AM I DOING WITH MY TIME

and well you don't have a sense of line... and if you are willing to listen her playing is quite refined and interesting. I didn't think she was going to win though and her playing was not NEARLY as attention grabbing as Arsenii in that competition... I don't love it, but to dismiss as bland...? no...

I used to have one,.