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Offline tinyking12345

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Offline tinyking12345

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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #1 on: May 12, 2016, 02:20:15 PM
I'm playing it again in June so tips appreciated!

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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #2 on: May 17, 2016, 04:47:50 PM
Stopped listening after inferior octaves.

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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #3 on: May 17, 2016, 05:00:15 PM
Well done tiny. You are admirably on your way to becoming an inspiring pianist.
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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #4 on: May 17, 2016, 05:05:36 PM
Well done tiny. You are admirably on your way to becoming an inspiring pianist.

Come on!! The orchestra just ashamed him up at that octave passage.

edit: In short, he does not (yet) have the chops to play this.

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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #5 on: May 17, 2016, 06:06:21 PM
@hakki: and you do?
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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #6 on: May 17, 2016, 06:28:15 PM
@hakki: and you do?

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@Hakki: Elaborate. Please.  ::)

@OP: Fantastic playing, even though your facial expressions give me the urge to slap you.

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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #7 on: May 17, 2016, 06:36:12 PM
Tips wanted ?

Ok. Here is one.

The soloist must make sure the conductor leaves at an attainable tempo before the soloist comes in with the octaves, which is expected to be faster than the orchestra.

Otherwise? Well we saw what happened.

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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #8 on: May 17, 2016, 07:56:37 PM
I enjoyed your playing very much. Not so much your stage theatrics but I still think it does make the whole performance more expressive and exciting for the audience to watch.

mjames, lol  ;D
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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #9 on: May 17, 2016, 08:21:37 PM
sorry about the ignorance  ??? I don't know this piece very much and don't understand where he's supposed to have screwed it up. Could you please point it out? Thanks.

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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #10 on: May 17, 2016, 09:12:02 PM
George great job and congrats on the competition win. The octave passage hakki kept nagging about was a problem, but the problem wasn't your playing it was that there was a timing problem between you and the conductor. But other than that it was a great performance especially the strong ending. (btw good luck with the Gina Bachuer competition)

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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #11 on: May 18, 2016, 11:43:52 AM
Firstly, get rid of the orchestra member who couldn't play his/her intro (0.53) :p

Very good playing, but the octaves hakki was complaining about sound somewhat cautious. There seems to be quite a lot of vertical movement in your hand; keeping the hand close to the surface facilitates velocity (as I'm sure you're aware). The description of Liszt "shaking octaves out of the wrist" always comes to mind.
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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #12 on: May 21, 2016, 02:06:02 PM
Yeah soz, I know about the octaves...
Basically Denis Matsuev had been rehearsing Gershwin Rhapsody in blue and the keys were really f*ckin Sweaty. It was literally like ice skating

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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #13 on: May 21, 2016, 04:11:27 PM
Yeah soz, I know about the octaves...
Basically Denis Matsuev had been rehearsing Gershwin Rhapsody in blue and the keys were really f*ckin Sweaty. It was literally like ice skating
Lol I know how that is. I feel sorry for the next gal coming up to perform on the piano.
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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #14 on: May 21, 2016, 06:47:10 PM
Yeah soz, I know about the octaves...
Basically Denis Matsuev had been rehearsing Gershwin Rhapsody in blue and the keys were really f*ckin Sweaty. It was literally like ice skating

No need to deceive oneself. Play the octaves at  126 per four notes. That's it.

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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #15 on: June 12, 2016, 09:14:49 AM
I think there are plenty pianists who take those double octaves a mite slower, and/or miss some notes. It's nothing to be ashamed of or apologize for. Ideally, they should be faster and cleaner but I did not hear anything 'inferior'. It seems a bit unfair to lambast this incredibly talented performance because of it.

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Re: Tchaikovsky piano concerto!!!
Reply #16 on: June 22, 2016, 10:35:09 AM
Just saw your performance of Scarbo.
You are very talented at the piano! When did you start playing? And how many hours did you practice during that time?
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