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Offline hpiano

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Rank these pieces by difficulty
on: July 14, 2024, 09:56:23 PM
Hello! Haven’t posted here in a while. I’m curious how you all would rank these 15 major Romantic works by difficulty, since I plan to study all of them at some point and want to gain some insight. Of the list, I have played Ballades 1 and 3, 1 was significantly more difficult, for me it was the absolute limit of my ability, even though the C# minor section in Ballade 3 is also tough to play clean. I have started looking through Ballade 4 as well and it’s a beast- don’t think I’m quite ready since it will take a ton of time. I just want to make sure I space these pieces out well, since I plan to study them all in the next years. can’t figure out a good order to tackle them in. Btw I can’t afford a good teacher at the moment and school is out of session, so no lessons.

Chopin Ballade 1 (I have played)
Chopin Ballade 2
Chopin Ballade 3 (also played)
Chopin Ballade 4
Chopin Barcarolle
Chopin Fantasie in F minor
Chopin Polonaise-Fantasie
Chopin Scherzo 2 (partially learnt)
Chopin Scherzo 3
Chopin Scherzo 4
Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody 2
Liszt Ballade no 2
Mendelssohn Rondo Capriccioso
Schumann Fantasy In C Major (mvmt 1)
Schumann Fantasy in C Major (mvmt 2)

Thanks for any help, I know these difficulty threads can be annoying but this will help me out big time.
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Offline liszt-and-the-galops

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Re: Rank these pieces by difficulty
Reply #1 on: July 20, 2024, 10:04:04 PM
Hello! Haven’t posted here in a while. I’m curious how you all would rank these 15 major Romantic works by difficulty, since I plan to study all of them at some point and want to gain some insight. Of the list, I have played Ballades 1 and 3, 1 was significantly more difficult, for me it was the absolute limit of my ability, even though the C# minor section in Ballade 3 is also tough to play clean. I have started looking through Ballade 4 as well and it’s a beast- don’t think I’m quite ready since it will take a ton of time. I just want to make sure I space these pieces out well, since I plan to study them all in the next years. can’t figure out a good order to tackle them in. Btw I can’t afford a good teacher at the moment and school is out of session, so no lessons.


Chopin Ballade 1 (I have played)
Chopin Ballade 2
Chopin Ballade 3 (also played)
Chopin Ballade 4
Chopin Barcarolle
Chopin Fantasie in F minor
Chopin Polonaise-Fantasie
Chopin Scherzo 2 (partially learnt)
Chopin Scherzo 3
Chopin Scherzo 4
Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody 2
Liszt Ballade no 2
Mendelssohn Rondo Capriccioso
Schumann Fantasy In C Major (mvmt 1)
Schumann Fantasy in C Major (mvmt 2)

Thanks for any help, I know these difficulty threads can be annoying but this will help me out big time.
Of the ones that I've listened to at least a few times...
Easiest
Scherzo no. 2
Scherzo no. 3
Ballade no. 3
Scherzo no. 4
Chopin Ballade no. 2
Ballade no. 1
Liszt Ballade no. 2
HR 2 (w/ Hamelin's Cadenza)
Ballade no. 4
Hardest

Hope this helps! :)
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Offline jaquet

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Re: Rank these pieces by difficulty
Reply #2 on: July 21, 2024, 12:33:24 AM
i would personally place the scherzos as more difficult than the ballades. Ive played the first many times, in audtions and concerts. I sight read the other ballades, and parts of all the scherzos apart from 3rd i think. I would place the ballades and scherzos as b3, sc2,b1,sc1, sch3, b2, sch4, b4. I wont rank the others because i dont want to type more .

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Re: Rank these pieces by difficulty
Reply #3 on: July 21, 2024, 01:42:07 AM
I’m curious how you all would rank these 15 major Romantic works by difficulty, since I plan to study all of them at some point and want to gain some insight. Of the list, I have played Ballades 1 and 3

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Re: Rank these pieces by difficulty
Reply #4 on: July 21, 2024, 03:31:51 PM
People here like to estimate the difficult of pieces they haven't played, but I think that's a superficial assessment, as if technical challenge is the only kind of difficulty, as if you can truly assess it by listening, and you can't see the musical challenge until you get into it.
I hadn't thought about it like this before, but you're right. I think it is fun to speculate based on certain difficulties, especially if it's a piece you've sightread before. However, you're right that just listing difficulty isn't going to help much because there are different ways to define "difficult". These threads about "hardest" pieces are for the most part for fun, but for anyone wanting to learn certain pieces, it's never harmful to just try them out.
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