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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #100 on: March 30, 2005, 06:27:41 PM
Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  <-- mine is WAY better.  You need to work on yours quite a bit.  Too fast.  Fast isnt always everything.  Arf.  oh yeah forgot to talk about meiting sun.  I hate him.  He plays like crap, and he is a huge jerk.  Poor Nancarrow.  I hate it that meiting sun has become like the champion of the Tango? even though he sucks hard at it.


and his tannhauser overture sounds like a 14 year old.  Well, a normal 14 year old.

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #101 on: March 30, 2005, 07:04:21 PM
Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  <-- mine is WAY better.  You need to work on yours quite a bit.  Too fast.  Fast isnt always everything.  Arf.  oh yeah forgot to talk about meiting sun.  I hate him.  He plays like crap, and he is a huge jerk.  Poor Nancarrow.  I hate it that meiting sun has become like the champion of the Tango? even though he sucks hard at it.


and his tannhauser overture sounds like a 14 year old.  Well, a normal 14 year old.

thank you for that pathetic waste of a space on this board.

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #102 on: March 30, 2005, 07:09:30 PM
ROFLMAO


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


not too bad innit?

and of course, this post, and the several others like it are not a waste of space?  yeah i see the logic.  oh wait no i dont because there is none.  i also gave my own personal feelings about Meiting sun.  you wanted to know how we felt about him and i answered your *** question.  I'm sorry if you disagree.  that doesnt give you the right to be a jackass just because you may have some vendetta against me over my past actions.  and btw- your post wasted just as much space as mine.  maybe a little less, but at least mine had SOMETHING to do with the question.

IMO meiting is overrated and you need to think before you act.


EDIT:  "thank you for that pathetic waste of a space on this board."  if it was a pathetic waste of space then how come it annoyed you so much?  i think it is a pretty powerful waste of space!

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #103 on: March 30, 2005, 07:31:22 PM
Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  <-- mine is WAY better.  You need to work on yours quite a bit.  Too fast.  Fast isnt always everything.  Arf.  oh yeah forgot to talk about meiting sun.  I hate him.  He plays like crap, and he is a huge jerk.  Poor Nancarrow.  I hate it that meiting sun has become like the champion of the Tango? even though he sucks hard at it.


and his tannhauser overture sounds like a 14 year old.  Well, a normal 14 year old.

  Another brilliant post courtesy of Skepto. ::)

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #104 on: March 30, 2005, 07:39:27 PM
hey koji yeah it was pretty dumb i agree, but i answered the question quickly.  i dun want to get into it cause i'm lazy, but all this arguing has probably wasted more time anyways.


btw- scriabin sonata no. 10- good work

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #105 on: March 30, 2005, 07:42:13 PM
hey koji yeah it was pretty dumb i agree, but i answered the question quickly.  i dun want to get into it cause i'm lazy, but all this arguing has probably wasted more time anyways.


btw- scriabin sonata no. 10- good work

  You play any Scriabin?

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #106 on: March 30, 2005, 07:46:58 PM
i meant your recording.  it was nice.

and no i dont have any in my repertoire sadly.  i've been overloaded with french stuff lately and after that i have to learn the schubert sonata D. 958 for a competition and then another piece that is probably going to end up being the Alkan Symphonie pour Piano, so i doubt i will have any any time soon.  after those two i have other stuff i wanna work on.

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Reply #107 on: March 30, 2005, 07:50:09 PM
i meant your recording.  it was nice.

and no i dont have any in my repertoire sadly.  i've been overloaded with french stuff lately and after that i have to learn the schubert sonata D. 958 for a competition and then another piece that is probably going to end up being the Alkan Symphonie pour Piano, so i doubt i will have any any time soon.  after those two i have other stuff i wanna work on.

  Thanks; I wish it were easier to play.  The Alkan's pretty beastly (great piece though), good luck with that.

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #108 on: March 30, 2005, 08:02:02 PM
Was looking for Mei-Ting Sun's "Feux Follets" but found that I can no longer load it from this meiting.com website. I checked whitekeys.com and pianosociety.com to avail.

I'm just wondering if some of you might be kind enough to point me to a place where I can download Mr. Sun's "Feux Follets." You help will be appreicated.

Thanks.

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #109 on: March 30, 2005, 08:04:24 PM
sure sure.   you can get the MIDI at the international piano-e-competition.

here is the URL


https://piano-e-competition.com/contestantbios02/meitingsun.htm


down at the bottom.

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Reply #110 on: March 30, 2005, 08:12:15 PM
Thank you! I'm listening to the MIDI now...  Thanks. :)

EDIT: Got what I was looking for. Very impressive. Thanks!

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #111 on: March 30, 2005, 09:35:33 PM
The midi sounds like some of the notes aren't even individual (like in the runs) and are instead chords. Jesus, it's crazy!  :o

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #112 on: March 30, 2005, 09:59:11 PM
yes, the feux follets is crazily fast as someone put it once.

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #113 on: March 30, 2005, 10:00:54 PM
fast but empty.

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #114 on: March 30, 2005, 10:12:07 PM
fast but empty.

Skepto, will you please post some of your recordings? You must be an unbelievably fabulous pianist.

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #115 on: March 30, 2005, 10:21:34 PM
fast but empty.

Excuse me, are u talking about your skull? =P
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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #116 on: March 31, 2005, 12:16:25 AM
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I'm sorry guys but I need to come clean.  I'm a mole for LL.  I didn't want to do it.  I wanted to fight for the Glorious one(Yundi Li) and his incredible musical ability, but, alas, LL abducted my family to his Fortress of Doom(betcha didn't know he had one of those) on the Island of Over-commercialization.  My attempt to rescue them resulted in failure.  Easily, I crossed the Chasm of Funky Body Motions that surround his Fortress.  His Bombasity Guards were vanquished by my Sword of Taste +1.  I made my way undaunted through his Labrynth of Poor Interpretation.  Finally, I came face to face with the Dark Lord himself.  For hours I faced him and his mighty  Mace of Banality.  His fighting style was full of useless motions designed only to make others believe his might, yet still his power was great.  I knew that I couldn't defeat him with mere taste, so I cast a IVth level Bad Review spell.  Trembling, he fell to his knees and begged for a chance to renounce his evil ways and to play for good once again.  I, blinded by my foolish naivity, listened.  As my guard went down, he unleashed a fearful Hadoken, the like of which has not been seen since Super Street Fighter II Tournament Edition.

When I awoke, I was in a dark damp room.  A coarse, almost sickening voice resonated in the walls of my cell, a voice I recognized as belonging to no other than his twisted Lieutenant, xvimbi.  My family was to be forced to listen to the Dark Lord play the Don Juan fantasy for all eternity, unless... unless I would help him.  He spoke of one, one he called "the Prophet."  I was to ruthlessly mock the Prophet, attack his revelations as paranoia, and defend the Dark Lord's minions.

I quickly noted that any feeble attempts by the forces of darkness were quickly knocked aside by the Prophet and shown to be grotesque copies of the true musicality of the Glorious one.  Even the most sinister of the Dark Lord's servants, those who through guile and treachery convinced the board that they were followers of the truth, were exposed by his brilliance, like a dark place is exposed by light.  The realization, that my attempts would never phase him and never result in my family's safety, hit me.  I can now only go into exile and hope, through a life of taste and lack of body motions, to undo a small portion of the evil and poor interpretation that I have been an accessory to.

I can only hope that Brewtality, aquariuswb, and dankoren will realize that the tastelessness of Lang Lang will never triumph.  May they renounce their ways and their insidious master and walk in the ways of Yundi.

The only appropriate response to tibidi, is pure unbridled sarcasm.  Stuff so sarcastic that it leaves you physically exhausted.

*goes back to ignoring tibidi*
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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #117 on: March 31, 2005, 02:31:56 AM


Skepto, will you please post some of your recordings? You must be an unbelievably fabulous pianist.




like i've said.  come get me on MSN.


and yes my skull is fast???

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #118 on: March 31, 2005, 02:56:56 AM
and yes my skull is fast???

You mean thick?

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #119 on: March 31, 2005, 03:43:04 AM


hahaha you beat me to it. :P




Who is insane?



What do you mean? please elaborate.

Hey, you haven't answered my question.

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Reply #120 on: March 31, 2005, 04:06:56 AM
From your reluctance to answer my question, it's obvious that it is directed at me. Almost everyone here is against me? Hehe!  Remember what I wrote about my neighbours? Hehe!

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Reply #121 on: March 31, 2005, 06:27:37 AM
From your reluctance to answer my question, it's obvious that it is directed at me. Almost everyone here is against me? Hehe!  Remember what I wrote about my neighbours? Hehe!

The end.

Dude. Seriously, get some help....
You and your neighbour, whatever man.
Do something about your mental health before it's too late.

Anyway, just got the Yundi Li Liszt 1st, it's quite good.
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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #122 on: March 31, 2005, 06:29:48 AM
I LOVE his g minor Ballade. Screw the wrong notes, he plays that thing beautifully.

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Reply #123 on: March 31, 2005, 06:35:38 AM
I LOVE his g minor Ballade. Screw the wrong notes, he plays that thing beautifully.

And I appreciate that most of his recordings he put up are live.
Same goes for the Beethoven Hammerklavier, something so vast, and yet it's played with such eletricity, and musicality. Just listen to how beautiful the 3rd movemnt is. U can actually hear how much Mei Ting adores this piece by the way he plays it.

There is just something about MT's musical idea, he does things in music not because it's there to 'impress' people, the audience or judge.

He does it, just because it necessary for the music.

Just like the Feux Follets, i believe he can  play much faster, and cut the timing with another half minute. But it's not necessary and it's not good for the music. He believes the speed he picked was necessary, and as well as the most optimal speed for the speed itself.

Just listen to the Brahms Paganini and Tannusher, u will know he doesn't play music for the sake of the difficulty. The difficulty is necessary for such music.

And he simply stated that the performance of his Ravel Gaspard was at age of 14, just like he said the Tannusher was performed in Alice Tully in 2003. There is nothing self-endulging about that statement. It's all about how u interpret that. Of course u can wipe up all your consipracy theory like those people on the first page. And attacked MT for being a child prodigy. (I don't see those people go attack Argerich for learning Gaspard at age of 14.)

(Trying to get the thread back on track.)
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Reply #124 on: March 31, 2005, 09:35:48 AM
I first saw this post:


Anyway, just got the Yundi Li Liszt 1st, it's quite good.

and then this one:


I LOVE his g minor Ballade. Screw the wrong notes, he plays that thing beautifully.


You can mislead others easily. I believe you don’t mean the ballade played by Yundi Li.

By the way,  Ballade no. 4 in F minor played by Yundi Li in Warsaw four years ago is the best that I have heard. I always gasp at the ending of this piece played by him. His passion, his technique and his bouncing notes always leave me in awe.

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Reply #125 on: March 31, 2005, 12:49:04 PM
I first saw this post:



and then this one:





You can mislead others easily. I believe you don’t mean the ballade played by Yundi Li.

By the way,  Ballade no. 4 in F minor played by Yundi Li in Warsaw four years ago is the best that I have heard. I always gasp at the ending of this piece played by him. His passion, his technique and his bouncing notes always leave me in awe.


  You of course, realize (or perhaps you don't in your addled brain) that this thread is not about Yundi.  Why don't you hijack another one or just start your own; better yet, here's what I suggest you ponder instead of this endless nickel and dime spamming stuff, what you should really try if you really want to make a dent in your neve ending quest to foil the nefarious schemes of Lord Lang and his evil phalanx of publicists:

  Tatoo (or if that's too painful) body paint "Y U N D I  L I" on your chest, set up a webcam and perform creative cheers (something along the lines of "GO GO YUNDI LI GO GO YUNDI LI!!" and always end with "YAAAAAAY YUUUUNDI!!!")  Just think of the hours of amusement and delight you'll have coming up with these wonderful chants--and as an ancillary benefit, all those terrific pleated skirts!!  I bet you look postively fetching in a pink mini. 
  Yundi will undoubtedly shower you with love and affection for such devoted antics--think of the overwhelming bliss you'll experience once that happens.
  So do it!! The world (and more importantly, Mr. Li) NEEDS YOU!!!!

koji (STSD)

 
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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #126 on: March 31, 2005, 01:21:32 PM


  You of course, realize (or perhaps you don't in your addled brain) that this thread is not about Yundi.  Why don't you hijack another one or just start your own; better yet, here's what I suggest you ponder instead of this endless nickel and dime spamming stuff, what you should really try if you really want to make a dent in your neve ending quest to foil the nefarious schemes of Lord Lang and his evil phalanx of publicists:

  Tatoo (or if that's too painful) body paint "Y U N D I  L I" on your chest, set up a webcam and perform creative cheers (something along the lines of "GO GO YUNDI LI GO GO YUNDI LI!!" and always end with "YAAAAAAY YUUUUNDI!!!")  Just think of the hours of amusement and delight you'll have coming up with these wonderful chants--and as an ancillary benefit, all those terrific pleated skirts!!  I bet you look postively fetching in a pink mini. 
  Yundi will undoubtedly shower you with love and affection for such devoted antics--think of the overwhelming bliss you'll experience once that happens.
  So do it!! The world (and more importantly, Mr. Li) NEEDS YOU!!!!

koji (STSD)

 

priceless.

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Reply #127 on: March 31, 2005, 02:02:06 PM


  You of course, realize (or perhaps you don't in your addled brain) that this thread is not about Yundi.  Why don't you hijack another one or just start your own; better yet, here's what I suggest you ponder instead of this endless nickel and dime spamming stuff, what you should really try if you really want to make a dent in your neve ending quest to foil the nefarious schemes of Lord Lang and his evil phalanx of publicists:

  Tatoo (or if that's too painful) body paint "Y U N D I  L I" on your chest, set up a webcam and perform creative cheers (something along the lines of "GO GO YUNDI LI GO GO YUNDI LI!!" and always end with "YAAAAAAY YUUUUNDI!!!")  Just think of the hours of amusement and delight you'll have coming up with these wonderful chants--and as an ancillary benefit, all those terrific pleated skirts!!  I bet you look postively fetching in a pink mini. 
  Yundi will undoubtedly shower you with love and affection for such devoted antics--think of the overwhelming bliss you'll experience once that happens.
  So do it!! The world (and more importantly, Mr. Li) NEEDS YOU!!!!

koji (STSD)

 

My goodness, I seldom praise Yundi Li here. There is no need for such an anger. No more praises for Yundi Li from me here, my lips is sealed, OK now?

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #128 on: March 31, 2005, 07:05:24 PM


You mean thick?



Wow. I came on here last night and was going to respond to this but my connection was bad, but I see I am not the only one these people are jerks too.  i guess when I'm gone they have to pick on SOMEONE.  i dont feel special now -.-

anyways, no i dont mean thick.  i mean fast.  i referred to his feux follet as fast but empty, and what's his face (i dont care enough about you people to learn your names) said, apparently in a feable attempt to insult me, that my skull was just like how i described Mei ting's Feux Follet "Fast but empty."  So my skull is fast and empty.  Now you see, that is quite possibly the worst attempt at an insult i have ever seen.  You should have gone with this:

"i will shoot you in the uvula!"

much more effective, and somehow even less immature, even with the obligitory uvula allusion.

And mozartian, could you please explain to me how my dislike of Mei Ting's Feux Follet correlates to my own personal playing ability?  If you want recordings of me, like i've told so many people, come get me on MSN messenger and i will send them to you.  I have yet to disappoint.  I mean seriously, that just doesn't make any sense.  So because you love meiting sun, you are a better pianist than me?  Or, since you were being blatantly sarcastic, does that mean you are actually worse than me?  Either way your logic is lacking in several areas.  Just kidding- there is no logic in what you said.

So in closing, whoever made that pathetic insult needs to be shot in the uvula, and Mozartian is a terrible pianist because she loves meiting sun.  Am i being sarcastic?   cause whether or not im being sarcastic certainly decides your own personal playing capabilities according to your "logic", and that those people are jerks in general, not just to me.  It DOES seem that the level of admiration for meiting sun correlates directly with the level of you being an ass though.  At least in general.


so mozartian, why dont you come get some of my recordings on MSN?  would you like the bowen toccata?  the corigliano etude fantasy?  the babajanian poem for piano?  some ligeti?  <--- oh look i'm a better pianist than you and i hate meiting sun, so therefor since you love him you suck.


bye bye

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #129 on: March 31, 2005, 07:14:46 PM
oh i just wanted to say that any of your retorts to what i just said will be wasting just as much space as me or the yundi li comments, therefore making you hypocrites too.  wanna be jerks and hypocrites?  cmon i know you cant resist.

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Reply #130 on: March 31, 2005, 07:40:08 PM
I really shouldn't waste my time replying to this crap, but whatever..

anyways, no i dont mean thick.  i mean fast.  i referred to his feux follet as fast but empty, and what's his face (i dont care enough about you people to learn your names) said, apparently in a feable attempt to insult me, that my skull was just like how i described Mei ting's Feux Follet "Fast but empty."  So my skull is fast and empty.  Now you see, that is quite possibly the worst attempt at an insult i have ever seen. 
Explain to me what it means to have a fast skull.
My comment had nothing to do w/ your dislike of Mr. Sun's Feux-Follet, I have yet to listen to that recording and therefore have no opinion on it.
I based my insinuation that you have a thick head on your many brilliant posts, both in this thread and in others, in which you seem incapable of disagreeing w/ someone w/out seriously insulting them.

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And mozartian, could you please explain to me how my dislike of Mei Ting's Feux Follet correlates to my own personal playing ability?
It doesn't, dude. I never said that. But you're amazingly critical of someone who is very talented.

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so mozartian, why dont you come get some of my recordings on MSN?  would you like the bowen toccata?  the corigliano etude fantasy?  the babajanian poem for piano?  some ligeti?  <--- oh look i'm a better pianist than you and i hate meiting sun, so therefor since you love him you suck.
I'm pretty sure that's the second d*mn time you're told me I suck at piano, why don't you reserve your opinion of my skill until you actually hear me (as I'm doing with you)?
All I'm asking is that you treat me with some respect.
As for getting on MSN and getting your recordings, right now I'm too freaked out to even consider giving you my screen name. Why don't you post your recordings on a site?

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #131 on: March 31, 2005, 10:17:10 PM


Skepto, will you please post some of your recordings? You must be an unbelievably fabulous pianist.



you posted this with " fast but empty" quoted in it.  meaning you sarcastically assume i am a fabulous pianist due to my thinking it is fast and empty.  Or you quoted the wrong post. 

"It doesn't, dude. I never said that. But you're amazingly critical of someone who is very talented." read above.

secondly, if you want respect maybe you should give it too eh?

"I'm pretty sure that's the second d*mn time you're told me I suck at piano, why don't you reserve your opinion of my skill until you actually hear me (as I'm doing with you)?"   <--- no.  you didnt.  unless you were being sincere when you said i must be a fabulous pianist, which you were not, then you werent.

"As for getting on MSN and getting your recordings, right now I'm too freaked out to even consider giving you my screen name. Why don't you post your recordings on a site?"  yeah I'm way too stupid to do anything with a screenname or something like that.  me dumb ><


so, a couple things.  if you're nice to me ill be nice to you, if you didnt want me to think that you were judging my abilities based on my statement of his feux Follet being fast and empty you shouldnt quote it in there, you shouldnt judge my abilities anyways as i am not judging yours (im just being a jerk and playing off of your miscommunication), and um that's probably all.  But seriously come get me on MSN or i guess YIM.  im on YIM less though.


and always remember, me dumb.

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Reply #132 on: April 01, 2005, 12:11:27 AM
-.-   <--- is my apology for being stoopid.


hehe look at the links here.  all stuff about raising IQs!  it must have sensed my uberstupiditude.

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Reply #133 on: April 01, 2005, 02:13:37 AM
you posted this with " fast but empty" quoted in it.  meaning you sarcastically assume i am a fabulous pianist due to my thinking it is fast and empty.  Or you quoted the wrong post. 
Yes, it was sarcastic.

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"I'm pretty sure that's the second d*mn time you're told me I suck at piano, why don't you reserve your opinion of my skill until you actually hear me (as I'm doing with you)?"   <--- no.  you didnt.  unless you were being sincere when you said i must be a fabulous pianist, which you were not, then you werent.
If you think MT Sun's playing sucks (for reasons other than jealousy), then you obviously have heard or can play better, which could mean you have a good musical ear, are a fabulous pianist, and/or are a fabulous musician. Or it could mean that you're just picky and narrow-minded about interpretations. :P

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so, a couple things.  if you're nice to me ill be nice to you, if you didnt want me to think that you were judging my abilities based on my statement of his feux Follet being fast and empty you shouldnt quote it in there, you shouldnt judge my abilities anyways as i am not judging yours (im just being a jerk and playing off of your miscommunication), and um that's probably all.  But seriously come get me on MSN or i guess YIM.  im on YIM less though.
I'm not judging your technical skills on your statement. I think musically- you and I probably have very different ideas. I will NEVER be one to play speed for the sake of speed, I'm not like that, but if the music requires it then YES! Remember everyone has different musical ideas. Get about 6 different recordings of Chopin' Op. 64 No.2, and you'll see what I mean.. RADICALLY different. (Mostly) all good performances, but soo different! So cut people slack and don't judge on a single recording! ::)
I can speak only for myself, but I have found some of Mr. Sun's recordings very musical and moving.
I don't do MSN because I hate M$, have YIM though.
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and always remember, me dumb.
Not likely to forget that anytime soon... ::) <--- joke. :P

BTW how old are you anyway? I get the feeling you must be about the same age as me (16).

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Re: Mei-Ting Sun
Reply #134 on: April 01, 2005, 02:18:39 AM
err wait. I don't have YIM. I have AOL IM.
Sorry I'm always getting them confused.

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Reply #135 on: April 01, 2005, 04:13:25 AM
i AM very picky.  I find that Mei-Ting Sun's interpretation of Feux Follet is simply fast for the sake of being fast, and is playing in an overtly virtuostic and technical and precise manner, even though Liszt should nearly always be played with the utmost amount of interpretation and romanticism, and this piece is no exception in my personal opinion.   <---- this is what i should have said.  but i dont ever say stuff like that because i'd rather just say "it blows"

i have AIM also.


no no not 16 for sure ^^  if i was 16 and could play the stuff i can now i would be famous much.  Just out of curiosity, what made you think i was?

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Reply #136 on: April 01, 2005, 05:10:44 AM
i AM very picky.  I find that Mei-Ting Sun's interpretation of Feux Follet is simply fast for the sake of being fast, and is playing in an overtly virtuostic and technical and precise manner, even though Liszt should nearly always be played with the utmost amount of interpretation and romanticism, and this piece is no exception in my personal opinion.   <---- this is what i should have said.  but i dont ever say stuff like that because i'd rather just say "it blows"

i have AIM also.


no no not 16 for sure ^^  if i was 16 and could play the stuff i can now i would be famous much.  Just out of curiosity, what made you think i was?

If u think his playing is without music, solely because it is fast.
I think u are about the same level of the people at SDC, think it's good music because it's fast.

There are certain requirement of technique and tempo for certain music, and beyond that there is tolerance. MT can play pieces much harder than FF, and definately much better.

If u make your statement about his playing is bad, simply because it's fast(as i don't see u pointing out anything but saying he is capable of playing fast and difficult music.). I don't think u are as good/sophisticated as u present yourself to be.
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Reply #137 on: April 01, 2005, 05:53:55 AM
Did you not happen to catch where I said I disliked it because it was overly technical and precise?  Didn't you notice I spent a hell of a lot more time talking about that than the overly fast playing?  And what is SDC?  And you contradict yourself there honeybuns.  First you say I like music just because it is fast, then you say my only reason for disliking it was because it was fast.  "MT" (I guess you guys are good buddies) CAN play much harder, like the Nancarrow Tango? and the Wagner/Liszt Tannhauser Overture.  His Tannhauser Overture I find just generally of poor quality, but talking about that would be getting off subject.  Just like this thread has been for quite some time sadly...

"I don't think u are as good/sophisticated as u present yourself to be."  Just exactly how good/sophisticated am I presenting myself to be?  I'm exactly as sophisticated as I present myself, as it is impossible for me not to be.  And the Nancarrow Tango? is unarguably the most difficult piece in Mei-Ting's repertoire, and I play it arguably better.  I guess I am presenting myself to be good enough to play the Nancarrow Tango? arguably better.  What a coincidence!  That's exactly how good I am!

"(as i don't see u pointing out anything but saying he is capable of playing fast and difficult music.). "  Again- it's almost as if you only read the first line of my post and went to valiantly defend him, seeing as how I DID point out other things IE i AM very picky.  I find that Mei-Ting Sun's interpretation of Feux Follet is simply fast for the sake of being fast, and is playing in an overtly virtuostic and technical and precise manner, even though Liszt should nearly always be played with the utmost amount of interpretation and romanticism, and this piece is no exception in my personal opinion.   <---- this is what i should have said.  but i dont ever say stuff like that because i'd rather just say "it blows"

i have AIM also.


no no not 16 for sure ^^  if i was 16 and could play the stuff i can now i would be famous much...   <--- what I pointed out btw.


Listen.  I apologized before and tried to get the topic back on track at least a little bit, but I'm not apologizing for this.  Idiots who can't apparently read (or use proper grammar AT ALL) need to be told they are such.


Now everyone back to talking about Mei-Ting Sun!

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Reply #138 on: April 01, 2005, 06:40:47 AM
I am saying

U hate MT for his speed+difficulty.
Those doushbags like recording for the speed+difficulty.

You both are the same to me, all u can see is speed.
U condemn MT for him playing difficult piece and fast piece and disregard any musical idea of the artist.

Those people praise any recording (for eg Rebecca Penney's Chopin etude recording) for the mere reason of speed and technical issue.

Both are ignorant.
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Reply #139 on: April 01, 2005, 06:58:10 AM
WOW what

do you read anything i write?


i hate it because it is overly precise and technical.   <--- read that!  IDIOT!  how many *** times do i have to *** say that?

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Reply #140 on: April 01, 2005, 07:36:43 AM
I am going to write something about  Mei Ting, not to praise Yundi.

Is Mei Ting going to take part in the coming Chopin piano competition in Warsaw? Don’t be too disappointed if he is eliminated at one of the earlier rounds as I don’t think his music has enough elegance and subtlety to win this competition unless other competitors are worse than him in this respects, but I believe many others should be able to play Chopin better than Mei Ting.  Will he be able to practise hard now and win  judges’ hearts a few months later? I don't think so, these qualities are inborn. So many technically sound competitors were eliminated at the earlier rounds at Warsaw before. Don’t you think Kissin can play Chopin better than Mei Ting judging from sound tracks given above? 

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Reply #141 on: April 01, 2005, 11:42:51 AM
I am saying

U hate MT for his speed+difficulty.
Those doushbags like recording for the speed+difficulty.

You both are the same to me, all u can see is speed.
U condemn MT for him playing difficult piece and fast piece and disregard any musical idea of the artist.

Those people praise any recording (for eg Rebecca Penney's Chopin etude recording) for the mere reason of speed and technical issue.

Both are ignorant.

"doushbags" are we? I know that I for one don't base my judgment of a recording solely on speed and technique (although the latter is undoubtably a factor.)



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Reply #142 on: April 01, 2005, 11:53:29 AM
I am going to write something about  Mei Ting, not to praise Yundi.

Is Mei Ting going to take part in the coming Chopin piano competition in Warsaw? Don’t be too disappointed if he is eliminated at one of the earlier rounds as I don’t think his music has enough elegance and subtlety to win this competition unless other competitors are worse than him in this respects, but I believe many others should be able to play Chopin better than Mei Ting.  Will he be able to practise hard now and win  judges’ hearts a few months later? I don't think so, these qualities are inborn. So many technically sound competitors were eliminated at the earlier rounds at Warsaw before. Don’t you think Kissin can play Chopin better than Mei Ting judging from sound tracks given above? 



yes he will be in Warsaw. I have no clue how he will do. I hope for the best of course. Here's my question that maybe some of you can answer. If he wins, would you consider him the first American to win it or would you still consider him Chinese or which ever origin he is from. I don't know if he was born somewhere else and moved here or has lived here all his life. Personally, I don't care one bit. I would just like to know if  he is going to be the first american to win it.

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Reply #143 on: April 01, 2005, 04:18:26 PM
i have AIM also.
What's your screen name?

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no no not 16 for sure ^^  if i was 16 and could play the stuff i can now i would be famous much.  Just out of curiosity, what made you think i was?
You talk/write like some 16 yo guys I know. ::) :P
EDIT- no offense of course... a lot of people 'talk younger' on the internet than they do IRL..

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Reply #144 on: April 01, 2005, 04:33:57 PM
WOW. I hust wanted to say that these posts are some of the funniest in this forum I have ever read!

EDIT: In this sentence funny = ridiculous
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Reply #145 on: April 01, 2005, 05:14:52 PM
WOW. I hust wanted to say that these posts are some of the funniest in this forum I have ever read!

*wonders if they can be "translated" into a musical composition of some sort*  ::) tds

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Reply #146 on: April 02, 2005, 06:43:49 PM


*wonders if they can be "translated" into a musical composition of some sort*  ::) tds



That would be some whacky composition.
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Reply #147 on: April 03, 2005, 10:20:26 AM
I am saying

U hate MT for his speed+difficulty.
Those doushbags like recording for the speed+difficulty.

You both are the same to me, all u can see is speed.
U condemn MT for him playing difficult piece and fast piece and disregard any musical idea of the artist.

Those people praise any recording (for eg Rebecca Penney's Chopin etude recording) for the mere reason of speed and technical issue.

Both are ignorant.
we praise an accomplishment as is. Skepto assumes two independent accomplishments are mutually exclusive. Dont mix it up

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Reply #148 on: April 03, 2005, 05:42:04 PM


That would be some whacky composition.

oh, btw, do you know any whacky composition that is aesthetically effective? tds
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Reply #149 on: April 11, 2005, 08:37:38 PM
Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  <-- mine is WAY better.  You need to work on yours quite a bit.  Too fast.  Fast isnt always everything.  Arf.  oh yeah forgot to talk about meiting sun.  I hate him.  He plays like crap, and he is a huge jerk.  Poor Nancarrow.  I hate it that meiting sun has become like the champion of the Tango? even though he sucks hard at it.


and his tannhauser overture sounds like a 14 year old.  Well, a normal 14 year old.

Thank you Gregory. Opinion noted.

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