Here is something I think I'm realizing today:A Force without discipline, focus, direction, purpose, is not Power and has no fundamental nor lasting strength. In fact, without organization, it is a weakness.
Had a fantastic lesson today! So remember when I told you guys my teacher said the minuet was above my level at this point? Well, we're working on the Minuet now! He taught me the tedious left hand movements today, and WOW, that is advanced in my eyes, lol.
He also played a sheet I brought him, he got it perfectly on his second try 0.o. I was astonished.
Sounds great You'll learn it in no time now....It is very reassuring when your teacher seems to be capable of anything... Mine seems to sight read any piece I take to the lesson without any effort Also any advice I get seems to miraculously solve my problems if I just take the time to apply it properly, even if I am often sceptic at first. It seems you also work very well with your teacher, I'm glad for you, sometimes the first one isn't the right one...
I have no idea about my teacher's skills or credentials outside classical but I assume she must have studied that too since she has a pedagogy degree. After my experience with my first teacher I made it very clear to her that I am only interested in learning classical piano and a proper technique in that. I just can't make myself care for anything else, since the amount of classical piano repertoire I want to learn is so much it will take me a couple of lifetimes and I don't seem to be able to get tired of classical piano music... I do like other music genres of course, but I cannot connect those with my piano experience which seems to be all consuming at the moment
Well Outin, I had my doubts at first. Because I wanted to learn classical, but apparently he can do that beautifully as well. It would be lovely if I could learn 70% classical, 20% jazz and 10% pop.
You can learn as much as you want though; when opportunity meets preperation, success is inevitable.
that i should highlight the clefs so i dont learn an entire page thinking the bottom one is always bass. argh.
That happens to you too? It happens to me all the time when I try to sight read. Before noticing I often keep going for a while thinking the composer went completely mad since there's definitely something wrong with the music
That sounds all very nice as an esoteric aphorism, but you didn't define any of your terms. While this presumably means something to you, unless you are going to be more specific there's virtually no chance that it could mean the same thing to anybody else who might be reading. If the intent is to be generically poetic (in a way that has no particular application to pianistic or musical issues) then fine, but if it was supposed to convey anything about the topic to anybody other than yourself, could you be more specific please?
And the sheet wants me to play staccatto with my left hand and legato with me right
And it seems my version of the minuet is different from most on youtube. How many versions of the minuet are there?
I still can't do the long-short-long-short exercise, but I'll ask my teacher next week. It's really too bad because I can do the other exercises pretty well.
I think that is an excellent idea of sharing what each one learned from practice.Please allow me to introduce myself. I have been engaging in self study of music for over a year.I started take piano lesson July 2012. I found a very patient and supportive piano teacher that is very positive, commends me for the things you do well. The lessons are once a week for a half hour. Her observation is she feels I sight read better than most students whom never had any lessons. My weak point in my opinion, timing, I play to fast, I find it difficult counting out loud and keeping timing.I practice at home on keyboard and play my lesson on a piano.Besides the lessons, I absorbed myself in self study still. I am in awe of the musical skills such as Joe Sample, Billy Joel, Ray Charles.This week I am learning the "Eighth Notes". I am going to struggle to learn to play "Hello" by Lionel Richie on my own this weekend. It has three familiar chords on the first page on the sheet music which are Am, G, F and am familiar with the basic notes.Thanks for listening and any support, observation, lending of once experience will be certainly welcomed.
That is hard, it takes time and some practice to develope that kind of hand independence.
As many as there are players There are slightly easier versions from the original in the method books, I remember one from my childhood.
This is completely normal, when there are so many things to absorb on the lesson, sometimes you need to get back to them many many times before they are completely understood. And then it takes even more time to make the movements you second nature.
Yeah! It's like drawing a circle with one hand while drawing a square at the same time with the other hand.Hehehe. So this means the minuet in g major is a piece of cake for you at the moment?
Yeah that's true. Sometimes it's frustrating though. I mean, sheet music of movie themes and such are probably easy for you more advanced people to play sighreading and the second or fifth time you've probably mastered it. I'm struggling with the minuet. But I think that's perfectly normal.
This is the verion of the Minuet I'm learning:
I'm not even sure if I should ever go for the grade stuff. I just want to enjoy it. Sure it's nice to have a paper saying I'm this good, but not for a while. Maybe if I'm ever as good and want to teach.
That's sort of what I mean. The arabic version is especially nice.
Anyways. I've had a great 90 minute practise today. The minuet is coming along as well, but the stacatto left handed and right hand legato is just impossible for me at this stage. Need to practise more, hehe!
I see. The thing is, how am I supposed to play something legato with one hand while the other jumps in the staccato fashion? My other hand needs to be totally independant then.
On another note, does anyone know what grades these are? We don't have grades here in Holland, but we have something called EPTA: European piano teachers association. They give examens in A1, A2, B, C, D and E I think. Is there a comparison table?
There's just this weird part of the minuet where I hit a d with my pinky and the lower d with my thumb and then 3 other notes going down. But the weird part is that the 3 other notes are on the side of my pinky d and the part where the thumb d is attached to the other 3 notes (confused yet?:p).
Outin, have you ever heard of Oscar Peterson? A brilliant, brilliant pianist may his soul rest in piece. I'm going to ask my teacher about him (since he is a jazz pianist himself).
So it's measure 8. Usually this measure has the ornament on the right hand, but I guess you are talking about the left hand? What is it that is confusing you?How could you hit the first d with your pinky? You play that with your thumb and the second one with your 5th.
I meant it the other way around, I'm sorry. It's not confusing, it's just tedious because the second d is part of a beamed note so it means I have to be able to play it fast after each other, they are 1/8s, right? Edit:That picture is different from mine, in mine the next 4 notes after the first d are all apart of one beam.
That sounded good Outin!
Thanks!How does the minuet feel now?
I get what you mean with handmovement, but the part that's slightly difficult is when you hit the d with 1 and the lower d with 5. Then you're supposed to hit cba left from the first d. I could go 1(d)5(lower d)123(cba). The thing is, my pinky wouldn't be on the G where it is supposed to be anymore.
Trying to confuse me again? There's no G here? Do not try to hold the lower D, just let it go and play the rest. Remember, this is baroque, it can/should be detached. Better jump than stretch!EDIT:Since you seem to be working quite seriously with this already, did you teacher talk to you about accents? In this piece it is very important to play the first note in every measure more pronounced, otherwise it just does not sound right.
OK, I get the problem now. You are thinking on positions, I just can't think like that anymore, I have no idea what position I am at when I play But maybe you should stop thinking of the 8th notes as beams You would play them exactly the same whether they are beamed or just separate 8th notes. The beam just makes them a bit easier to read. You kind of confused me again...I thought we already went through the staccato legato thing?But no problem, you have gone far with this already, your teacher might be surprised. Why don't we leave him something to earn his money with?
Definitely! Outin, you should know by now what kind of a person I am so sorry if I have troubled you.
2 more scales HT this morning...It's a bit weird really how easy it seems now to handle both hands after struggling with it for so long. My brain must have modified itself It's easier for me to play the scales rather fast than play them slow. So I need more slow practice. Which is difficult because my hands are somewhat hyperactive, they tend to do things on their own before I have time to stop them
My teacher seemed pleased with my progress today, played 8 different scales, the first page of the waltz and some other things I didn't know last week. But I still didn't get a sticker...the girl before me always get stickers! I'm a loser