Come to my piano camp

[mephisto]

I agree with you.

[thalbergmad]

I don't understand why a simple request for applicants to attend a piano camp generated 148 posts (so far), most of them critical or sarcastic. 

The problem, if indeed there is one, results from someone who's first posts on this forum were adverts.

I personally think that it is good form to get to know people first.

This thread has probably exhausted its educationl/amusement value.

Thal  

[shortyshort]

The problem, if indeed there is one, results from someone who's first posts on this forum were adverts.

I personally think that it is good form to get to know people first.

This thread has probably exhausted its educationl/amusement value.

Thal  

Here, here.

If you look at all the posts by Mr. Barniv, there are a few that answer other peoples questions, but most are just advertising.

And, once challenged about this, he became very rude and obnoxious, and continued to do so.

Shorty

[ramibarniv]

...very rude and obnoxious...
Shorty

If I were you I wouldn't talk about being "very rude and obnoxious", as this is exactly what you and your friends here are.

[shortyshort]

If I were you I wouldn't talk about being "very rude and obnoxious", as this is exactly what you and your friends here are.

If you bothered actually participating on this forum, rather than just advertising on it, you would realise that I have no friends. 

[ramibarniv]

I don't understand why a simple request for applicants to attend a piano camp generated 148 posts (so far), most of them critical or sarcastic.  I started reading this topic at the end and then went back to the beginning to see what the problem was and I just don't see it.  The initial post was straightforward and yet within one or two responses the sarcasm began.  There must be some personal issues going on here that the casual reader of the Forum would not be aware of....
James.

Thank you James for your sane voice here.
I am on 10 different Internet piano lists, some of which I've been on for many years; and I am on 3 different Internet piano forums. No other place was I attacked like here. These attackers must be very frastrated pianists/teachers/musicians.
Thank you again and also thanks to the few other sane voices which emerge here occasionally.
Best wishes,
Rami

[ramibarniv]

If you bothered actually participating on this forum, rather than just advertising on it, you would realise that I have no friends. 

I "bother", I read and I post whenever I feel I have something to say.

[shortyshort]

I "bother", I read and I post whenever I feel I have something to say.

It seems strange to me that the only time you have something to say is when you're selling your camp.

If you're so great at playing, as you've previously stated many times, why don't you post in threads that may actually help someone else rather than yourself?

I suppose that you only help people if they are willing to pay for your camp camp.

[ramibarniv]

It seems strange to me that the only time you have something to say is when you're selling your camp.

No, it is not the only time.

If you're so great at playing, as you've previously stated many times, why don't you post in threads that may actually help someone else rather than yourself?

I did, I do and I will, as I see fit and also time permitting.

I suppose that you only help people if they are willing to pay for your camp camp.

Nonsense, I've been helping people on the Internet for free over 10 years now.

[shortyshort]

No, it is not the only time.

I suggest that you look at all your own posts and count the ones that are not advertising. You will not run out of fingers. 

I did, I do and I will, as I see fit and also time permitting.

Don't waste your time putting people down then. Be constructive with your posts. 

Nonsense, I've been helping people on the Internet for free over 10 years now.

Perhaps. I don't know. But I bet they had to read all your blurb while receiving it. 

[ramibarniv]

I suggest that you look at all your own posts and count the ones that are not advertising. You will not run out of fingers. 

I do not count my posts, but thank you for admitting that what you said previously: "the only time you have something to say is when you're selling your camp" was wrong. It wasn't and isn't the only time.

Don't waste your time putting people down then. Be constructive with your posts. 

I an constructive with my posts and I do not put down people, unless they insist on such manner of exchange, like you and some others did.

Perhaps. I don't know. But I bet they had to read all your blurb while receiving it. 

I didn't have any "blurb", my piano camp only started last November...

[shortyshort]

I do not count my posts, but thank you for admitting that what you said previously: "the only time you have something to say is when you're selling your camp" was wrong. It wasn't and isn't the only time.

Yes, I admit that I was wrong. I did find 1.

I an constructive with my posts and I do not put down people, unless they insist on such manner of exchange, like you and some others did.

Yes, constructive advertising, and you do get quite nasty if someone questions you, or does not agree with you.

I didn't have any "blurb", my piano camp only started last November...

You have certainly made up for it now though.

[mephisto]

If you're so great at playing, as you've previously stated many times, why don't you post in threads that may actually help someone else rather than yourself?

He has actually, many times.


Btw Rami, maybe you could tone down abit on the pride, and everybody can be friends? That goes for the rest of you too.

[shortyshort]

Btw Rami, maybe you could tone down abit on the pride

Are you suggesting that he's proud. He won't like that. You won't here the end of it now. At least he can start being rude to you now, instead of someone else.

[shortyshort]

That goes for the rest of you too.

Sorry Sir, I won't let it happen again, honest. 

[mephisto]

Sorry Sir, I won't let it happen again, honest. 

True I sounded like a teacher in that post Sorry 'bout that

[ramibarniv]

He has actually, many times.

Btw Rami, maybe you could tone down abit on the pride, and everybody can be friends? That goes for the rest of you too.

I am so trying, replying questions sincerely, doing my part to have a civilized conversation, but this guy won't let go...:

"Are you suggesting that he's proud. He won't like that. You won't here the end of it now. At least he can start being rude to you now, instead of someone else."

Thanks for your post, Mephisto.
Best wishes,
Rami

[shortyshort]

I am so trying

Best wishes,
Rami

Nuff said

[jlh]

Nuff said

you know he said "trying" and not "tiring", right?

[shortyshort]

you know he said "trying" and not "tiring", right?

Yes, he is very trying.

[elevateme_returns]

i don't understand. so ramibarniv are you better than everyone else at the camp ? say for example one of the members on piano street did go, and they were better than you. how would you teach them?

[thalbergmad]

Surely there must be many pupils that are better pianists than their teachers,  (me not included).

Do not see why it should hinder the learning process.

Thal

[tds]

i don't understand. so ramibarniv are you better than everyone else at the camp ? say for example one of the members on piano street did go, and they were better than you. how would you teach them?

eegh, dont know. aint those need to outscale argerich and michelangeli to be considered better than barniv?   

[ramibarniv]

i don't understand. so ramibarniv are you better than everyone else at the camp ? say for example one of the members on piano street did go, and they were better than you. how would you teach them?

I must have missed this post, it was the day I was traveling.
1) Of course I am a better pianist than everyone else at the camp, I am the teacher/master.
2) Suppose there's someone like that on PS and this someone comes to camp, I have no problem teaching someone who can play better than me. Being able to play better is not necessarily what one needs to be able to teach.
While on the subject, I'm happy to report that the June RRPC was yet another sound success.
Here are a few pictures:
https://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=brdhwer.74eicygv&x=0&y=9d5ski
 
RRPC upcoming and future dates in Utica, NY:
1) October 21-28 2007.
2) May 18-25, 2008.
 
RRPC is branching out...
In the 2nd half of September 2007, while on concert tour of New Zealand, I'll be doing camp in Rotorua.
Best regards,
Rami
https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/

[prongated]

Oooooh summer! How beautiful! >< it's so cold down here ><

...are there any audio/video of select performances? I'd love to listen! I saw a clarinet...any Brahms Clarinet Sonata being performed during that week?

[ramibarniv]

...are there any audio/video of select performances? I'd love to listen! I saw a clarinet...any Brahms Clarinet Sonata being performed during that week?

Your question prompted me to upload some stuff. Thank you.
Not yet the video, but there's some audio to listen to.
Not Brahms clarinet sonata, but Bar-Niv "Longing for my father" - 7 songs without words for clarinet and piano.
Best,
Rami
https://www.mediafire.com/?30zotzmgcr0
https://www.mediafire.com/?btunzx47fuf
https://www.mediafire.com/?cdd4ltmhm9c
https://www.mediafire.com/?5lxgduxt0my
https://www.mediafire.com/?3usfecmini1
https://www.mediafire.com/?3csrgons4z9
https://www.mediafire.com/?c2ndmygd7ns

[elevateme_returns]

Yes, I admit that I was wrong. I did find 1.

lol

[etudes]

eegh, dont know. aint those need to outscale argerich and michelangeli to be considered better than barniv?   

ahaha good one,probably yundi li and Rafal Blechacz should go to study with him (first prize of chopin competition,same honour as Argerich.....)

[ramibarniv]

...are there any audio/video of select performances? I'd love to listen! I saw a clarinet...

Now there's video too:

Best,
Rami
https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/

[thalbergmad]

That is rather lovely, especially song 6.

Thal

[ramibarniv]

That is rather lovely, especially song 6.
Thal

Thank you very much.
Rami

[jlh]

I enjoyed your cycle very much, Rami!   

[ronde_des_sylphes]

Likewise. Really rather moving.

[m]

Al' ze yahol' lehagid rak davar yahid--mamash yaffe meod  .

[ramibarniv]

Al' ze yahol' lehagid rak davar yahid--mamash yaffe meod  .

Thank you all very much.
Nice Hebrew, Marik.
If you are interested to hear the original version of soprano & piano, the audio, some background and my English translations of the Hebrew poems are all here:
<https://www.garageband.com/song?|pe1|S8LTM0LdsaSnZ1C0Y2A>
               (Please copy and paste the whole thing)
Best,
Rami

[elevateme_returns]

La'al kayfa halukin davar im hesha weyol' en kaysa haffe mei.