Come to my piano camp

[ramibarniv]

Hey All,
June 24 - July 1 and August 19 - 26. "Rami's Rhapsody Piano Camp" for adults.
Join Rami Bar-Niv, international concert pianist for a week of Practicing, private lessons, master classes, concerts and fun.    https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/
Best wishes,
Rami
[email protected]
https://www.youtube.com/user/barniv

[jakev2.0]

can u teach me liszt hungarian raspberry no 2? 

[ramibarniv]

can u teach me liszt hungarian raspberry no 2? 

Of course I can. The question is can you learn it....? What's your level of playing and learning ability?
Best wishes,
Rami

[etudes]

Of course I can. The question is can you learn it....? What's your level of playing and learning ability?
Best wishes,
Rami

in case you dont know....he typed raspberry instead of rhapsody....typical ironic jake
hahaha but in this case i agree!

[thalbergmad]

Please book me a place on your piano camp.

I am currently playing Liszt Don Juan/Sorabji OC/Brahms Concerto 2.

I have been playing for a total of 3 weeks, but there is always room for improvement.

Thal

[Mozartian]

I have been playing for a total of 3 weeks, but there is always room for improvement.

Thal

...........

*falls off chair, helpless with laughter*

Bravo.

Best of luck to you with your camp, Rami!

[counterpoint]

You kids 

Did you watch the videos of Mr. Bar-Niv on youtube?

It's not someone, you should make fun about.

[ramibarniv]

You kids 

Did you watch the videos of Mr. Bar-Niv on youtube?

It's not someone, you should make fun about.

Thank you, Counterpoint.
OK, kids, I fell for it and I'm glad you had your fun.
Now, if you want to play as well as writing your smart posts here, try me.
Best wishes,
Rami
[email protected]
https://www.youtube.com/user/barniv
https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/

[prongated]

It's not someone, you should make fun about.

Hmmmm...I perceive some...

...anyway, I think it's great that there are piano camps specifically for adults. Most festivals are for...well...'young', aspiring-to-be professional musicians. Respect!

[As for those youtube videos...they're definitely concert standard, but I'm not sold. Sorry.]

[thalbergmad]

Now, if you want to play as well as writing your smart posts here, try me.
Best wishes,
Rami
[email protected]
https://www.youtube.com/user/barniv
https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/

I am finding it difficult to locate one of your posts that does not contain some form of advertising or a link. I don't know why, but i am always irritated by people that have been here for about 5 minutes and immediately start pedalling their wares.

Incidentally, i am holding my own summer camp this year 20th to 30th June. The price of £3.50 and a crate of Stella Artois, includes a cruise on the QE2, a penthouse suite at the Dorchester and as many creme eggs as you can eat.

Places can be booked via my website  www.blatantbullcrap.com or you can e mail me on [email protected]

Look forward to seeing as many of you as possible.

Thal

[ramibarniv]

Hmmmm...I perceive some...
[As for those youtube videos...they're definitely concert standard, but I'm not sold. Sorry.]

Can you do better?
Best wishes,
Rami
https://www.audiostreet.net/ramibarniv
https://www.garageband.com/artist/ramibarniv
https://www.youtube.com/user/barniv
https://www.listen.to/rami
https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/

[ramibarniv]

I am finding it difficult to locate one of your posts that does not contain some form of advertising or a link. I don't know why, but i am always irritated by people that have been here for about 5 minutes and immediately start pedalling their wares.

Sorry to irritate you Thal, it was not my intention.
FYI, I've been here since Feb 11, 07.
Best wishes,
Rami
https://www.audiostreet.net/ramibarniv
https://www.garageband.com/artist/ramibarniv
https://www.youtube.com/user/barniv
https://www.listen.to/rami
https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/

[nicco]

Sorry to irritate you Thal, it was not my intention.
FYI, I've been here since Feb 11, 07.

Indeed, and what was the first thing you posted that day?

[m]

Well, being an "adult" I might be qualified for your camp. I however, could not find any information as for your bio, who were your teachers, what are your merits, and most of all what are your teaching phylosophy and qualifications? Do you have any famous students?

Currently there are some interesting topics about technical and musical aspects of piano performance in Performance forum on this board. It would be very helpful if you participate and show your wisdom and teaching principles, so people could deside if it is worth of coming to your camp.

At least I can see WHAT and IF I can learn something from you.

Best, M

[ramibarniv]

Indeed, and what was the first thing you posted that day?

I am not sure, but probably my concerts and master classes in DC and Boston.
I am sorry if it irritates anyone, or if you think it is wrong.
Most music loving people who are on boards like to know about all these things and actually appreciate my contributions to the boards and my free music on YouTube and other sites.
I am sorry you don't.
Best wishes,
Rami

[prongated]

Can you do better?

I do not compare them to my playing. It is an expression of what I think of the videos I watched, in light of countless other performances I've heard/witnessed. Nothing more, nothing less.

[ramibarniv]

Well, Prongated, I'm glad you are in an overwhelming minority and I'm glad that my success does not depend on your opinion.
Best wishes,
Rami
https://www.audiostreet.net/ramibarniv
https://www.garageband.com/artist/ramibarniv
https://www.youtube.com/user/barniv
https://www.listen.to/rami
https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/

[sharon_f]

Dear Mr. Bar-Niv,

With all due respect, almost every one of your fifteen posts seems to do nothing more than promote you and your camp and classes. Now, I am all for marketing one's self and I don't begrudge anyone making a living, but I think the other members of this forum are just reacting to all of this self-promotion.

I am not sure about this forum, but that "other" forum does have quite a few performing artisits/teachers as members and they contribute regularly. Once in a while they might mention an upcoming performance, but most of the time, they are active members, responding to questions about technique, repertoire, helping out other members of the community and supporting them in their goals.

I think this is the main point of most of the replies to your thread: this is a community and as a member of this community, you have yet to show, through your posts, any interest in any other member other than yourself. Sorry.

Sharon

 

[tds]

I am finding it difficult to locate one of your posts that does not contain some form of advertising or a link. I don't know why, but i am always irritated by people that have been here for about 5 minutes and immediately start pedalling their wares.

Incidentally, i am holding my own summer camp this year 20th to 30th June. The price of £3.50 and a crate of Stella Artois, includes a cruise on the QE2, a penthouse suite at the Dorchester and as many creme eggs as you can eat.

Places can be booked via my website  www.blatantbullcrap.com or you can e mail me on [email protected]

Look forward to seeing as many of you as possible.

Thal

thal, u need to calm down or u'll lose a lot of weight.

oh and btw, come to my camp, everyone. we have dinner 3 times a day

[tds]

mr. bar-niv, the internet i am using now is super sluggish, but i happened to watch the first minute of your mozart k.332, III. i like it very much. thank you.

and you know, you can be our next bernhard if you so happen to love this forum as our esteemed bernhard used to.

regards,

tds

ps. i bet mr. bernhard looks quasi like mr. bar-niv. similar top, possibly.

[ramseytheii]

I am finding it difficult to locate one of your posts that does not contain some form of advertising or a link. I don't know why, but i am always irritated by people that have been here for about 5 minutes and immediately start pedalling their wares.

Incidentally, i am holding my own summer camp this year 20th to 30th June. The price of £3.50 and a crate of Stella Artois, includes a cruise on the QE2, a penthouse suite at the Dorchester and as many creme eggs as you can eat.

Places can be booked via my website  www.blatantbullcrap.com or you can e mail me on [email protected]

Look forward to seeing as many of you as possible.

Thal

thalbergmad I want to come to your camp, but are there scholarships available?  Or can you just front me the three pounds.

Walter Ramsey

[thalbergmad]

thalbergmad I want to come to your camp, but are there scholarships available?  Or can you just front me the three pounds.

Walter Ramsey

Sorry old chap, none available and camp fully booked now.

However, you might be interested in my Autumn banjo camp. Price is £4 plus 2 gallons of guiness. For this, you get 6 lessons of 2 minutes each, full board at a top London Hotel of your choice and a night of passion with my ex - girlfriend.

Please follow any of the links listed below.

www.iamafraud.com
www.thalbanjocamp.com
www.overpricedlessons.com

Hope to hear from you soon.

Thal

[pianowolfi]

Sorry old chap, none available and camp fully booked now.

However, you might be interested in my Autumn banjo camp. Price is £4 plus 2 gallons of guiness. For this, you get 6 lessons of 2 minutes each, full board at a top London Hotel of your choice and a night of passion with my ex - girlfriend.

Please follow any of the links listed below.

www.iamafraud.com
www.thalbanjocamp.com
www.overpricedlessons.com

Hope to hear from you soon.

Thal

Thal you will burn in the fires of hell because you gave us dead links.  

[ramibarniv]

Well, being an "adult" I might be qualified for your camp. I however, could not find any information as for your bio, who were your teachers, what are your merits, and most of all what are your teaching phylosophy and qualifications? Do you have any famous students?

Currently there are some interesting topics about technical and musical aspects of piano performance in Performance forum on this board. It would be very helpful if you participate and show your wisdom and teaching principles, so people could deside if it is worth of coming to your camp.

At least I can see WHAT and IF I can learn something from you.

Best, M

Thanks for your post.
In the "Links" section of my camp's site there's a link to my personal website, which has my bio.
In addition I've signed some of my posts here with it too:
https://www.listen.to/rami
In my bio it says that I studied with Nadia Reisenberg and also piano duo with Vronsky and Babin. My merits are my concerts all over the world.
My qualifications are teacher's diploma and artist's diploma from the Tel Aviv Academy of Music and a post graduate diploma from Mannes in NY.
Also an experience of many years teaching privately, giving master classes all over the world in universities and music schools and 8 years of teaching at the Sonata piano camp in VT.
I don't have famous students and I was never asked for my teaching philosophy, though I know that people put it on their sites. At any rate, my teaching philosophy is simple: I teach, you learn.
I figured that anyone seeing/hearing me play, won't ask about such things, but understand that I have what to offer as a master teacher.
I did join in on some of the topics here, but being I am on some 10 music lists/egroups and a few boards like this one, I may have neglected this one a bit, which I plan to correct, time permitting.
Best wishes,
Rami
https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/
https://www.audiostreet.net/ramibarniv
https://www.garageband.com/artist/ramibarniv
https://www.youtube.com/user/barniv

[ramibarniv]

Dear Mr. Barniv,

With all due respect, almost every single one of your fifteen posts seems to do nothing more than promote you and your camp and classes. Now, I am all for marketing one's self and I don't begrudge anyone making a living, but I think the other members of this forum are just reacting to all of this self-pormotion.

I am not sure about this forum, but that "other" forum does have quite a few performing artisits/teachers as members and they contribute regularly. Once in a while they might mention an upcoming performance, but most of the time, they are active members, responding to questions about technique, repertoire, helping out other members of the community and supporting them in their goals.

I think this is the main point of most of the replies to your thread: this is a community and as a member of this community, you have yet to show, through your posts, any interest in any other member other than yourself. Sorry.

Sharon

Thank you for your post.
This section is made for this type of promotion.
I promise to get more involved in the other sections and discussions.
Best wishes,
Rami
https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/
https://www.audiostreet.net/ramibarniv
https://www.garageband.com/artist/ramibarniv
https://www.youtube.com/user/barniv
https://www.listen.to/rami

[ramibarniv]

mr. bar-niv, the internet i am using now is super sluggish, but i happened to watch the first minute of your mozart k.332, III. i like it very much. thank you.

and you know, you can be our next bernhard if you so happen to love this forum as our esteemed bernhard used to.

regards,

tds

ps. i bet mr. bernhard looks quasi like mr. bar-niv. similar top, possibly.

Thanks you for the good words re my one minute of Mozart you managed to listen to.
Who's Bernhard?
Best,
Rami
https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/
https://www.audiostreet.net/ramibarniv
https://www.garageband.com/artist/ramibarniv
https://www.youtube.com/user/barniv
https://www.listen.to/rami

[sharon_f]

I promise to get more involved in the other sections and discussions.
Best wishes,
Rami

We look forward to that. For many of us who are "amateurs" it is always exciting to have a professional as part of the community. BTW, I really enjoyed your Chopin Heroic Polonaise.

Sharon

[ramibarniv]

We look forward to that. For many of us who are "amateurs" it is always exciting to have a professional as part of the community. BTW, I really enjoyed your Chopin Heroic Polonaise.

Sharon

Thank you.
Best,
Rami

[tds]

Who's Bernhard?

he is a person who likes to write "best wishes" at the end of his messages, just like you. do you also smoke cigar?

one of these days i might need your opinion on my playing. someday, i'll post vids of my bach and brahms.

oh, one question: do you think its legitimate to add lower octave on the last chord of brahms handel vars and fugue? been thinking about it for a while, but still not sure if i would do such thing to brahms. the music seems to need it, but may be not. if it's of schumann or liszt i wouldn't hesitate too much . what u think?

tds

[tds]

oh, and before we all go to your camp, we first need to know your idea on this little issue:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,24119.0.html


tds

[ramibarniv]

he is a person who likes to write "best wishes" at the end of his messages, just like you. do you also smoke cigar?

one of these days i might need your opinion on my playing. someday, i'll post vids of my bach and brahms.

oh, one question: do you think its legitimate to add lower octave on the last chord of brahms handel vars and fugue? been thinking about it for a while, but still not sure if i would do such thing to brahms. the music seems to need it, but may be not. if it's of schumann or liszt i wouldn't hesitate too much . what u think?
tds

Writing "best wishes" at the end of a post is a negative thing?
I don't smoke a cigar.
I couldn't care less if it is legit or not, if I felt the need to add a lower octave at one spot in a piece. I'd just do it. As a matter of fact I did it in the Grieg concerto and in Chopin 1st Ballade. After I did it, I was told Horowitz also did it in the Ballade at the same spot.
Where exactly and how do you intend to add the lower octave in the Brahms? I don't see how it can work effectively.
Do you mean to add it with the 1st grace note?
How slow do you intend to do the grace notes?
As I said I don't have a problem with it being legit or not, I need to know how you intend to do it and then figure out if it is effective or not.

oh, and before we all go to your camp, we first need to know your idea on this little issue:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,24119.0.html
tds

Here is my idea on this little issue:
"I play better than both arturo and martha combined."
I do like him better then her though...that is talking about their piano playing.
BTW, "Definitely" is spelled with an "I" and not with an "A" ("definately")...
Regards (is that better...?)
Rami

[m]

Here is my idea on this little issue:
"I play better than both arturo and martha combined."

Anything to support this allegation?

Best regards, M

[ramibarniv]

Anything to support this allegation?

Best regards, M

OK, It was half jokingly and anyway the question of who's better would depend on musical taste, however seriously speaking, I am definitely not less good then either of them.
Check out my recordings on:
https://www.audiostreet.net/ramibarniv
https://www.garageband.com/artist/ramibarniv
https://www.youtube.com/user/barniv
https://www.listen.to/rami
Best,
Rami

[m]

OK, It was half jokingly and anyway the question of who's better would depend on musical taste, however seriously speaking, I am definitely not less good then either of them.
Check out my recordings...

Yeah, I did. They are OK. But definitely not Michelangeli or Argerich level, though.

Maybe it is my taste, but many of your musical and artistical decisions to me look strange. Besides, your numerous rhythmical, articulation, structural, pedal use, and other textual errors/inconsistances/imperfections to me in fact, seem random, illogical, unprofessional, with no any connection with musical context or composers' will.
But once again, maybe it is only me...

Best regardes, M

[ramseytheii]

Yeah, I did. They are OK. But definitely not Michelangeli or Argerich level, though.

Maybe it is my taste, but many of your musical and artistical decisions to me look strange. Besides, your numerous rhythmical, articulation, structural, pedal use, and other textual errors/inconsistances/imperfections to me in fact, seem random, illogical, unprofessional, with no any connection with musical context or composers' will.
But once again, maybe it is only me...

Best regardes, M

 
 
 

Walter Ramsey

[ramibarniv]

Marik,
You are certainly entitled to have your opinion.
I don't know if it is only you, maybe there are a couple more, maybe you are a very special batch over here on this board, but thank god you are in an overwhelming minority.
I don't agree with any of your criticism and according to the thousands of reviews I have, most other people don't either.
One thing though puzzles me, where are there textual errors?
Best,
Rami
[email protected]
https://www.youtube.com/user/barniv
https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/

[tds]

Where exactly and how do you intend to add the lower octave in the Brahms? I don't see how it can work effectively.
Do you mean to add it with the 1st grace note?
How slow do you intend to do the grace notes?
As I said I don't have a problem with it being legit or not, I need to know how you intend to do it and then figure out if it is effective or not.

i am not sure if it's possible to describe exactly how i have thought i'd do it just by writing words in here. but yes, i was thinking with the 1st grace note, and with the possibility of adding more notes. but certainly i aim for monumental, majestic sounding, with or without the addition. maybe you'll hear it oneday when i post it here, or if you happen to want to buy the cd when it gets released.

Here is my idea on this little issue:
"I play better than both arturo and martha combined."
I do like him better then her though...that is talking about their piano playing.

somehow, that sorta reminds me of the spirit of comme . tis possible that you'll get many more camp goers if you post your ads in dasdc.

BTW, "Definitely" is spelled with an "I" and not with an "A" ("definately")...
Regards (is that better...?)
Rami

oh, believe me, you shouldn't even think of making a correction in the first place, coz you won't be able to keep up.

*tds thinks that rami makes a good chairman of maintenance department in the spa.*

hmm, u like spa, rami? u want a position? click this link:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,24032.50.html


spa manager,

tds

[jakev2.0]

Rami, you are a good pianist, but may I kindly offer the observation that your immodesty and self-promotion is actually causing you more harm than good? When you claim "you are definitely not less good than [Argerich or Michelangeli]" or play the Ab Polonaise "better than Rubinstein" (a comment from Youtube), you automatically lose credibility.

PS: we saw your links the first time...you don't need to keep posting them!

Besides, the best promotion imo is letting your music speak for itself. 

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,20423.0.html

Res ipse loquitur.

[Kassaa]

Marik,
You are certainly entitled to have your opinion.
I don't know if it is only you, maybe there are a couple more, maybe you are a very special batch over here on this board, but thank god you are in an overwhelming minority.
I don't agree with any of your criticism and according to the thousands of reviews I have, most other people don't either.
One thing though puzzles me, where are there textual errors?
Best,
Rami
[email protected]
https://www.youtube.com/user/barniv
https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/

The difference between Marik and the majority of people is that he is one hell of a pianist, and that his comments are not to be taken lightly.

[m]

I don't agree with any of your criticism and according to the thousands of reviews I have, most other people don't either.
One thing though puzzles me, where are there textual errors?

I rather trust my ears than thousands reviews.
As for textual errors, I did not listen to everything, but here is what I did:

Bach-Busoni beginning of the Fugue theme--you consistantly add one more beat in rests. The 1/16 notes are already slower than beginning. There is a very strange ritenuto before second voice entrance. Generally speaking, because of numeous ritenuti and rubati the whole theme exposition lacks rhythmical pulse, energy, and structural uniformity. I believe, if there is no theme introduction, there is no fuge.

Mozart Sonata 1st Movement--I won't talk about rubati here, as this is a matter of taste, but other things which bothered me quite a bit:

1) You completely disregard all Mozart's phrasing--those little slurs, which came from his orchestral nature of musical thinking, specifically violin group here.

2) Your use of pedal is very questionable as most of Mozart's prescribed rests get covered with it, turning all 1/4 notes into 1/2 ones. Specifically, m4, m19, m20, m21, m22, m25, m26, m29, m30, m32, m34, etc.

3) There are some articulations which look random, such as m.38, where L.H.suddenly goes staccato.

I cannot quite understand why a few meausres later in m.41 you change prescribed staccato 1/8ths to portamento 1/4rs.

Following that, you constantly alternate 1/4 notes staccato with pedaled portamento in the L.H., with no any logical pattern, losing uniformity of articulation.

Starting m.60 you completely disregard prescribed forte/piano changes--another typical orchestral way of thinking.

m.71 you play chords here portamento, but a measure later already staccato, and then the same material octave higher already everything with pedal. Those changes seem illogical and once again, create a loss of uniformity.

M82 once again you diregard forte/piano.
M84 once again you disregard forte (orchestral tutti).
Last few measures of exposition, you completely disregard sf marks and end with modest mezzo piano.
Sorry, I did not listen any further.

Beside of all those details, in general, although it has some nice lyrical moments, it lacks energy and life, partially due to your very limited dynamic range.

All of these are very typical students' mistakes--the result of whether lack of thinking, or not understanding the style and orchestal nature of Mozart's piano music.

I am sure thousands of people would love it as it is, but I am not sure if all those numerous mistakes, misunderstanding of style, and unprofessional reading of text are appropriate for a person who believes he is at least as good as Michelangeli or Argerich.

Best regards, M

P.S. If you are interested I can also write my comments on Chopin Polonaise.

[ramibarniv]

Thank you jakev2.0, for a sincere message and the good words re my pianism.
I'll take what you said under advice.
Best,
Rami

[ramibarniv]

Kassaa,
Thanks for your post.
Marik is an OK pianist with nice technique, he's got a long way to learn and develop.
His comments are petty, student-like, academically-dry and lack a real knowledge and understanding of music, beyond the notes/rests/slurs.
The "flaws" he finds with my playing can be found with the greatest of pianists.
Some of these "flaws" are actually advantages for many musicians, who look for much more than just digital and dry consistencies in interpretations.
When I mentioned "the majority of people" who think/thought highly of my performances, it included many reviewers, musicians, conductors, pianists as good as Marik and better, some very big names included too.
Best,
Rami

[ramseytheii]

Kassaa,
Thanks for your post.
Marik is an OK pianist with nice technique, he's got a long way to learn and develop.
His comments are petty, student-like, academically-dry and lack a real knowledge and understanding of music, beyond the notes/rests/slurs.
The "flaws" he finds with my playing can be found with the greatest of pianists.
Some of these "flaws" are actually advantages for many musicians, who look for much more than just digital and dry consistencies in interpretations.
When I mentioned "the majority of people" who think/thought highly of my performances, it included many reviewers, musicians, conductors, pianists as good as Marik and better, some very big names included too.
Best,
Rami

This thread has really turned into the battle of the egos.  I love it!
I philosophically object to your consideration of the finer points of Mozart's style as "academic" "dry" and "digital," and that paying attention to them reveals "pettiness" and "lack of knowledge" and "understanding." 

This for me is typical of the anti-intellectual approach to music; the idea is that music should only be "felt" and all of those finer details are for theoriticians in their ivory towers, who feel nothing, only study articulatoins and phrasing.  What this viewpoint fails to realize is the reality of those details, the reality that they are as much part of a composer's style, and of his works, as the notes.  Those who hold this view often betray an inability to actually think about what they are producing beyond vague imagery, and when confronted with objctive reality, they throw out a lot of accusations, apparently unwilling to even consider what that reality is.  There are others who are simply too lazy to wonder what those finer markings could mean, and are jealous of those who have the privilege of concentration fueled by feeling plus intellect.

Also, when you say: "The 'flaws' he finds with my playing can be found with the greatest of pianists," it reminds me of Lhevinne, and I paraphrase: "Anton Rubinstein was famous for the numbe of wrong notes he played in performance, and many students tried to outdo him in this."

We must not only absorb the best qualities of the best musicians, but also be careful to learn from their mistakes, and not repeat them.  As Hemingway described the popularity of his writing especially amongst other American writers: "They only imitate my faults."

Walter Ramsey

[m]

Dear Mr. Bar-Niv,

Besides immodesty and self-promotion, you also might consider paying attention to your lack of manners. Specifically, has anybody ever explained to you that calling present people as a third party is at very least... hmmm, impolite?

What I absolutely agree with you is that I still got a long way to learn and develop--that long process which started 9 months before I was born and which (hopefully) will end no earlier than with my last breath--the process which called life.

It is absolutely clear I have nothing to learn from you in your camp, as it seems that you already have learned everything and pretty pleased with yourself. It is not a good sign for me.

Good luck with reviews.

Best regards, M

[ramibarniv]

Dear Marik,
I do have to consider many more ears than just yours.
As for your claim about my textual errors, I'm afraid, rather glad, you did not point out any.
Stretching a break, marking notes with rhythmical accents, ritenuto, rubati, etc., are not textual errors, they are interpretation.
1) Mozart's little slurs are not all phrasing, they stem from violin bowings, one has to decide which ones are which. If you take them all literarily as phrasings, you will end up with lots of "hiccups".
2) Not all rests must be pedal free, that's too academically.
3) I don't find the type of consistency you're talking about a good artistic feature.
When similar things repeat, small variations of articulation and any other means make the music and interpretation more interesting and alive.

I do not disregard prescribed forte/piano changes, I mellow them, as to not have "black and white" interpretation.

m.71: When things repeat in different octaves they do not need to, in the name of uniformity, be treated the same way due to register differences.

What you call "mistakes, misunderstanding of style, and unprofessional reading of text" are things that actually got me praise with musicians and reviewers all over the world.

I am not interested in your comments on my interpretation of Chopin Polonaise, I wasn't interested in these comments either. All I asked for was to show me where I had the wrong text, which you failed to do.
Best,
Rami

[pianowolfi]

Well perhaps it's a matter of taste and I respect Mr. Bar Niv. But I'd rather have a master class with Marik. Marik dou you plan any? 

[thalbergmad]

3) I don't find the type of consistency you're talking about a good artistic feature.
When similar things repeat, small variations of articulation and any other means make the music and interpretation more interesting and alive.

I am completely with you on that one.

Well said Sir.

Thal

[m]

Stretching a break, marking notes with rhythmical accents, ritenuto, rubati, etc., are not textual errors, they are interpretation.

Agree, esp. when it is appropriate. That's why I whether did not talk about it, or mentioned that it is matter of taste.
I just don't buy some hypothetical "musicality" or some amateurish "to make interpretation interesting and alive"  .

Interpretation starts where composer's will is accomplished. Everything is written in the score--just reach it and breath life into it. Then we can truly appreciate musicality and interpretation.

1) Mozart's little slurs are not all phrasing, they stem from violin bowings, one has to decide which ones are which. If you take them all literarily as phrasings, you will end up with lots of "hiccups".
2) Not all rests must be pedal free, that's too academically.
3) I don't find the type of consistency you're talking about a good artistic feature.
When similar things repeat, small variations of articulation and any other means make the music and interpretation more interesting and alive.

I do not disregard prescribed forte/piano changes, I mellow them, as to not have "black and white" interpretation.

m.71: When things repeat in different octaves they do not need to, in the name of uniformity, be treated the same way due to register differences.

I'd suggest you to take some serious books/researches on the topic, open some scores, esp. operatic, symphonic, quartets, etc., then read, think, listen, i.e. educate yourself. After that we can resume.

What you call "mistakes, misunderstanding of style, and unprofessional reading of text" are things that actually got me praise with musicians and reviewers all over the world.

All I asked for was to show me where I had the wrong text, which you failed to do.

No. I did not fail and pointed out plenty of them. To me wrong rhythm, playing half note instead of quater, playing mezzo piano instead of forte, etc., are all textual errors. If you don't recognise them as such means we have quite different professional standards.

There is a good saying: "True musicians recognized in silence". To me pedaling rests, esp. in such fragile thing as Mozart's F Major Sonata is a textual mistake, and indicator of unmusical and unprofessional approach.
 
And BTW, your constant referral to some anonimous "musicians and reviewers all over the world" and "hundreds of concert" frankly, becomes quite annoying. It does not say a thing, nor anybody cares. We are all in this business and know very well its "worth" and "significance"  .
 
FWIW, I also have "musicians and reviewers all over the world", including big and VERY big names. I also played in many places, including Muzeon Tel-Aviv, Mishkenot Sh'Ananim, Geyhal Ha'tarbut, Concertgebouw, Grand Hall of Moscow Conservatory, etc., so what? In my close to 500 posts that's the first time I mention it, for the same reason.

I do have to consider many more ears than just yours.

Well, you can consider as many ears as you pleased. I consider only two pairs--composer's and mine. And I always grateful to anybody who points me out any discrepancy between those two.

Best regards, M

[prongated]

Besides immodesty and self-promotion, you also might consider paying attention to your lack of manners. Specifically, has anybody ever explained to you that calling present people as a third party is at very least... hmmm, impolite?

...self-esteem is pretty important for a pianist I guess. Which would you rather have: one who thinks he's as/more wonderful as/than Martha and Arturo, or one so depressed s/he died younger than Schubert? Hmmm.

What you call "mistakes, misunderstanding of style, and unprofessional reading of text" are things that actually got me praise with musicians and reviewers all over the world.

I uh, tried to do Google search - maybe for the very first time? Because I um, had trouble locating these reviews on the internet all I could find = garageband bio...same re: "big names". Can you help?

OK, It was half jokingly and anyway the question of who's better would depend on musical taste, however seriously speaking, I am definitely not less good then either of them.

Mr Bar-Niv, I am very curious as to why you are not in the Steinway Artists roster list. It may not be the definitive list of professional pianists, but you ARE as good as/better than 2 members of the roster list...are the Steinway bunch deaf? Or their instruments are just so horrible you [and your reviewers and audience] can't stand them?

[ramibarniv]

Dear Walter,
Glad you're having a good time.

You wrote:
I philosophically object to your consideration of the finer points of Mozart's style as "academic" "dry" and "digital," and that paying attention to them reveals "pettiness" and "lack of knowledge" and "understanding."

I write:
You misinterpreted my ideas. I did not say that the finer points of Mozart's style are the things written above, and that paying attention to them is the other things written above.
I very much appreciate and pay attention to all these finer points, like any artist would do, in my own way, understanding and interpretation. If that didn't exist, then one artists would be enough and the rest of the artistic world would just copy that interpretation.

You wrote:
This for me is typical of the anti-intellectual approach to music...

I write:
I do not hold this viewpoint.
Already 40 years ago, in an English class at Mannes, I wrote an article about the need for balance between the intellectual approach and the emotional one to interpretation of music.
I am not anti-intellectual, nor anti-emotional in my approach, I am balancing the 2.

You wrote:
Also, when you say: "The 'flaws' he finds with my playing can be found with the greatest of pianists," it reminds me of Lhevinne, and I paraphrase: "Anton Rubinstein was famous for the numbe of wrong notes he played in performance, and many students tried to outdo him in this."

I write:
The difference between your quote and what I said is that wrong notes are wrong notes and I said "flaws", meaning that they are not flaws.

You wrote:
We must not only absorb the best qualities of the best musicians, but also be careful to learn from their mistakes, and not repeat them.

I write:
I don't find anything wrong with best musicians mistakes, it's part of life and being human.
Best,
Rami