Whats News people?

[gilad]

Exactly that.
Some people are avid readers of the news, they like to feel connected and in touch with all thos events that are being played out in their surroundings on a daily basis. Politics, sports,   international occurances, enterntainment. There's quite a buffet of flavours in the paper. Something for everyone.

So I thought a thread here for those news followers to share the articles within their own borders or internationally would be an interesting idea.

Please no raging religious and political discussions and debates.

If you have an agrument about the way an event has been reported perhaps post another article that expounds a different perspectve or view.

Take it away then( ;

[gilad]

Boks prepare for shoot-out

https://www.news24.com/News24/Sport/RWC_2007/0,,2-9-2187_2202745,00.html

[pianistimo]

the best news is on at two or three am - on public tv.  it is said that in iran - a girl under 20 isn't assumed to have removal from the death penalty.  they just change her birthdate and call her 21 or 22 and hang her anyways if she is caught with a boy.  one on one dating is illegal - and iran is next in line only to china in human rights abuses for infringements of strict law (sharia in iran).  the girl in question the other night came from a difficult situation.  her mother died in a car accident.  her father turned to drugs and drinking - and her grandparents needed care.  she would care for them and her father - but became very lonely and was caught with a second cousin in the back seat of a car.  they took her in at the second infrigement (the first - they merely ? lashed her 40 times from foot to head) and hung her.

now, as i see it - the controversial part here is where the death penalty fits the 'crime.'  if Jesus forgave the adulterous woman (who had done it who knows how many times) - shouldn't sharia law consider any mercy that muhammad would have towards this young woman?  or is muhammad less forgiving? 

non-political political news:
cheney and barak obama are 8th cousins removed?  ok.  just heard that one right now.  see - they have to come up with dumb stuff for the evening news.  i think we are all related in some way - maybe to adam and eve and later noah and his family.  who really cares?  what about what barak obama is saying?  more political debates seem to be on in the middle of the night, too.

i've been wondering what alan greenspan ended up saying last night?  i feel asleep.  recession ahead.  haven't we already been in one for about 2 years.  is someone awake and sleeping?

putin is planning to be prime minister and then back to president for another 17 years?  after changing laws or something?  what is this?  no wonder he's got more in common with ahmadinejad!  they shook hands recently.  probably to split the reserves in the caspian? sea.   don't they share borders at that point?  (not to mention the bushehr nuclear power plant becoming operational).

*a pennsylvania boy avoided severe mauling during a camp out by assuming a fetal position and playing dead.  the camp leader awoke after the boy's tent was up-pegged and after he started banging on pots and pans and yelling - the bear left the boy and wandered off.

[ada]

This is the hottest news from Australia:

As the rest of the world is no doubt aware    Australia is heading for a federal election later this year.

The PM announced on the weekend that Aussies go to the polls on November 24.

According to recent opinon polls, the incumbent Coalition government goes into the election as the underdog, with a backlash expected against Liberal leader and Prime Minister John Howard.

A victory is widely anticipated for Labor's Kevin Rudd, although Greens leader Bob Brown claims 30 per cent of voters won't vote for either of the major parties, giving the Greens an anticipated major boost.

In other news ... a woman escaped with cuts on her legs after being attacked by a great white shark in Byron Bay on the NSW north coast and university students have created a koala that can be seen from space.

[cmg]

Hot news in the US:

Gore wins Nobel Prize.  Will he be drafted by Dems?  My bet:  no.  The man is way too principled to run for some trashy office like the President of the United States.  I say, "right on, Al."

Major insurers are cancelling homeowners' insurance policies at an alarming rate in the Northeast.  Homes within 10 miles of the coastline are losing coverage.  This action, of course, is prompted by unabashed greed.  Insurance firms are reporting record profits, despite the calamitous hurricanes of recent years.  Now, it's time to make sure they make even more money.  My friend Susan in Katonah, NY is one of the victims.  You'd like Susan.  She's a sweetie.

Ken Burns, documentary filmmaker, is quoted as saying that the impetus for his huge PBS series on World War II was prompted by the fact that "a huge number" of American students think that the war was about the US alliance with Germany to drive the Russians out of Europe.  Seriously!

Elsewhere, a woman in West Virginia found the image of The Virgin Mary imprinted on the handle of her toilet brush.  The relic, reportedly, will be sold at auction to raise money for the Catholic Dementia Relief Fund in Appalachia.   

[pianistimo]

gore split that nobel peace prize with the UN's intergovernmental panel on climate change (IPCC).  gore says that he is donating his entire share - $1.5 million - to the alliance for climate protection (based in massachusetts?).  probably a way to protect his assets until he needs to use them?  anyways - if he doesn't run for president - how can he make policy changes that will affect the world for good? 

now, if peace (since winning the nobel peace prize means that one accepts the principle that reducing countries standing armies is a good thing) comes at a cost.  will we need a presidency anyways?  if the UN becomes much stronger - will it matter who we declare president or who they deem most agrees with their agenda?  for instance, if the UN actually believes that 'climate change may induce large-scale migration and lead to greater competition for the earth's resources....such changes will place heavy burdens onthe world's most vulnerable countries and THERE MAY BE INCREASED DANGER OF VIOLENT CONFLICTS AND WARS, WITHIN AND BETWEEN STATES'  then who will most be agreeable to this?  someone without a standing army?  oh.  that's news!

is this somewhat like the UN president saying that countries in africa fight because of global warming?  i say that is a real disappointment for why the UN was created in the first place.  is global warming the ONLY issue?  what about freedom and choosing what battles to fight to obtain true freedom.

the UN doesn't understand this because it isn't under God.  it is under the guise of human reason (humanitarian?) only.  it says that it is not for corruption - whilst feeding it.  this was apparrent when they allowed ahmadinejad to speak at the UN while privately continuing to arm nuclearly. 

his regime has many human rights abuses.  does the UN dare to challenge him?  no.  so what good does al gore's 'lovely thoughts' do for world peace.  it means sqat in a bed of squashed daisies.  what we have here is a battle for the world.  a power struggle that may come to a head between major ideals.  russia is headed back to communist thought and governmental policies - although allowed to speak with merkel on 'peace?' and working with iran? it seems that some behind the doors agreements are made without a certain third party.  who is fighting now in iraq?  a lot of iranian insurgents now.  what for?  iraq is a good 'base' of operation.

and cmg, not to appear harsh or anything - but do we really care how sweet a person is when an insurance company has overpowered them?  i think they are quite random in how they operate in that department.  they don't ask - are you sweet?  we'll take advantage of you if you are. 

[pianistimo]

how about dumping iron into the ocean?
https://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/5/2/91720/71278

https://ioc.unesco.org/iocweb/co2panel/Docs/WBprintfriendly.pdf

they say that 3/4 of our CO2 depletion comes from burning fossil fuels and 1/4 from deforestation.  although, i would like to give trees the benefit of the doubt and suggest that before dumping (which - as you can see - is truly ADVISED by the UN as a solution) we first try planting and maintaining more trees around the world.

who is stopping massive deforestation in places like brazil?  isn't the UN a bit one-sided.  WHAT ABOUT TREES? 

the nobel peace prize is a farce.  they are no more interested in solutions than they say the US is.  it's all about 'scientific discovery.'  why don't they try time-tested solutions.  do you know what trees do?  they increase oxygen and suck up CO2.  i think messing with deep oceans (as a dumping place for iron) is dangerous.

trees are good.  https://www.treesaregood.com/treecare/tree_benefits.aspx

[gilad]

Syria: Israel targeted nuclear facility

https://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1192380576317&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

On the homefront in South Africa -   Pants ban: four men in court

https://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=15&art_id=nw20071017104519675C518586

[pianistimo]

you have just hit on another idiocy of the UN.  they don't believe small countries like syria HAVE nuclear facilities or capabilities (or, so they say) and at the SAME TIME - express an interest in promoting nuclear facilities in smaller countries and eliminating them in larger countries because that will save the environment?!

what is happening is passive agression.  until syria admits it - it doesn't exist.  i guess it's a dillemma because of course third-world countries need power and energy.  but, can't we share it somehow without giving them nuclear striking capabilities?

some of the movements in south africa seem aimed at destroying christian ideals bit by bit.  making them look evil by how the rules are implemented.  there is a statute in the bible for women not to dress as a man - but there is no punishment for it.  it's just strange how a punishment can be worse than a crime.  a woman wearing pants may offend a few people - but what about humiliating a person beyond belief in front of a group of men.  they don't even have the decency to treat a woman with regard and send other women to inform her that it is against their laws and bring her a dress?  or let her give a reason why she may need or prefer to wear pants.  what if it is a method for her to avoid rape or infection or bug bites?  or what if she cannot afford new clothing or simply prefers something that fits her.  these men are very callous.

see what the UN does or says about it.  it's just a small blip in many more human rights abuses to come.  they don't care about women, period.  otherwise the human rights abuses in iraq and iran would have been stopped - and forced abortion stopped in china.  why can't the UN just realize it is powerless to do good because it can't see straight.  the agenda is for de-populating the earth BY WHATEVER MEANS.  women populate the earth.  think about it.

[pianogeek_cz]

Syria: Israel targeted nuclear facility

https://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1192380576317&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Awww, you stole mine, though I got it from INN

The only relevant piece of news today: the Czech Republic lost the battle for the 2-year seat in the UN Security Council to Croatia by conceding in the second round against worsening odds. Oh well, we'll try again next time. The SC seems to actually be a part of the UN where things -may- be even done, although this might still be a very optimistic assertion.

[cmg]

This is the hottest news from Australia:

In other news ...  university students have created a koala that can be seen from space.

  Do you mean they've actually genetically engineered a koala so big that it can be seen from space?  How tall is it, ada?  Lord, could I come see it when I come to Sydney next month??  Do I need a press pass?  Could you help me out with that? 

[ada]

Do you mean they've actually genetically engineered a koala so big that it can be seen from space?  How tall is it, ada?  Lord, could I come see it when I come to Sydney next month??  Do I need a press pass?  Could you help me out with that? 

hehe

https://blogs.smh.com.au/sit/archives/2007/10/animal_watch_bigger_than_the_b.html

[cmg]

  That's great!  Can't wait to see it. 

Kind of looks like thal, don't you think?

[pianistimo]

your so bad.  thal might be like a koala - but certainly not seen from space.

[ada]

what does UNE stand for?  unesco?  oh.  that's lovely.  *regurgitates. 

no conspiracry theories, it stands for the University of New England 

[gilad]

https://www.yahoo.com/

Ok. This is a flash(or something) video. So it probly only gonna work today unless someone can help that.

https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071018/ap_on_re_us/o_j__simpson

OJ Simpson is retarded or something. The photo says so anyway.

[pianistimo]

sorry ada and cmg.  my bad.  ok.  conspiracy theories don't always fly.  i think that koala is cute.

108 year old blogger.  wow.  'how to get your girlfriend to play video games' sounds interesting too.  i'm wondering what sort of advice they give on that one.  oj simpson taking the cell phone is also rather strange.  definately tied him to the scene. 

how about reuter's news flash on a man from mexico who claims he only killed his girlfriend but didn't eat her.  however, he was caught frying up her remains (arm or something) and also had a book of hannibal's on how to do all this.  btw, a previous girlfriend was already done in.

[pianogeek_cz]

Syria: Israel targeted nuclear facility

https://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1192380576317&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

And lo! Syria: Israel did not target nuclear facility

https://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1192380585730&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Back to Square One. Or not?

[gilad]

Well spotted Pianogeek. lol. Thats what I love about the news. The status quo is always changing:D

Yeah back to square one. I thought an admission to the UN was a little weird.

[ada]

Here's one specially for you, Thal:

A survey has found that no one likes Brits. In the survey, Europeans were asked how much they liked a range of nationalities, including Spaniards, Poles, Germans and Britons.

Respondents said they liked all nationalities more after getting to know them, except for Poms, who became markedly less popular 

you can read the full story here:
https://uk.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUKL1878422120071018

And in other news, a german company has invented a schnitzel you can cook in a pop-up toaster.

[pianistimo]

that's because the brit's have the guts to challenge them on human rights.  duh.  it's standard they are setting.  a poor one.  you can speak all you want about abuses in war situations until the whole world is at war.  then, who is abused.  oh. boo hoo.  that's why there were people like churchill.  he was a brit, btw.  and warned the nations of germany's plans.  they can eat pop-up schnitzel but they can't own the world.  it's too late for that.  too many other countries see right through them.  maybe for a little time.  you know - a love affair between putin, merkel, and ahmadinejad or something.  they're all mini-ayatollah's.

germany has set many so called 'standards' for youth education.  they know that hitler was right about starting with youth.  world youth day is not only a catholic idea - it is also a german one.  germany and italy can't seem to live with or without one another.  it's politically staged to tear down democracy and establish socialism.  it's just that socialism is three steps down from democracy.  do you want to own your own property without people snooping on you or saying 'you can't do this or that.  you can't have a standing army to defend your borders or country.  it's against policy.'  those policy makers can take it back to God.  God made every one of us free.  what does the UN think about that? if you were a brit - would you say 'your laws are our laws' - when british law traces itself back to bible times?  you see - the standards are different between common law and other laws.  common law has PRECEDENTS that are met and kept.  other types of laws CHANGE by whim.

btw, australia is now back to aboriginal status?  ok.  whatever.  i understand a bit better why the battle of mid-way was so intense.  it was a struggle to maintain a sort of balance in the powers of the world.  once they become one-sided - there's really no way of ensuring human rights in the deepest sense.  the right that everyone has to be equal.  you see - when you are talking about a third reich - you are talking about someone who has control of everyone else and forces them into a peace at the cost of basically everything they believe to be true.  emperors, kings, presidents - can be dictatorial after being socialist for a time.  look at putin.  what is he really trying to do by becoming prime minister?  i think he's looking to change some laws and go back to being president for another 17 years.  call me a conspiracist - but what happened to his challengers.  poisoned?  ratfinked.  is this who merkel talks to?  ahmadinejad and putin.  with a sort of twinkle of understanding in her eyes.  what causes this understanding?  they all understand what is necessary to rule the world.

democracy to socialism to communism - a fast track - within a few years.

[ada]

that's because the brit's have the guts to challenge them on human rights.  duh.  it's standard they are setting.  a poor one.  you can speak all you want about abuses in war situations until the whole world is at war.  then, who is abused.  oh. boo hoo.  that's why there were people like churchill.  he was a brit, btw.  and warned the nations of germany's plans.  they can eat pop-up schnitzel but they can't own the world.  it's too late for that.  too many other countries see right through them.  maybe for a little time.  you know - a love affair between putin, merkel, and ahmadinejad or something.  they're all mini-ayatollah's.

germany has set many so called 'standards' for youth education.  they know that hitler was right about starting with youth.  world youth day is not only a catholic idea - it is also a german one.  germany and italy can't seem to live with or without one another.  it's politically staged to tear down democracy and establish socialism.  it's just that socialism is three steps down from democracy.  do you want to own your own property without people snooping on you or saying 'you can't do this or that.  you can't have a standing army to defend your borders or country.  it's against policy.'  those policy makers can take it back to God.  God made every one of us free.  what does the UN think about that?

btw, australia is now back to aboriginal status?  ok.  whatever.  i understand a bit better why the battle of mid-way was so intense.  it was a struggle to maintain a sort of balance in the powers of the world.  once they become one-sided - there's really no way of ensuring human rights in the deepest sense.  the right that everyone has to be equal.  you see - when you are talking about a third reich - you are talking about someone who has control of everyone else and forces them into a peace at the cost of basically everything they believe to be true.  emperors, kings, presidents - can be dictatorial after being socialist for a time.  look at putin.  what is he really trying to do by becoming prime minister?  i think he's looking to change some laws and go back to being president for another 17 years.  call me a conspiracist - but what happened to his challengers.  poisoned?  ratfinked.  is this who merkel talks to?  ahmadinejad and putin.  with a sort of twinkle of understanding in her eyes.  what causes this understanding?  they all understand what is necessary to rule the world.

democracy to socialism to communism - a fast track - within a few years.

 

[pianistimo]

ok.  let me say it really plain.  it really matters which side you are on.  unlike what most universities are preaching nowdays.  basically, when ahmadinejad came to columbia university - it was like saying - 'yes, we have a president - but what he stands for is really not what the country thinks.'  it was a SHAME.  SHAME on the president of columbia university for not standing up for his own country.  they are all traitors and breeding traitors like fruitflies.  the only thing is - they are young and HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED LOSING FREEDOMS.

do you know how much americans fought in the revolutionary war to WIN FREEDOM.  we don't want the UN's TAXATION!  we have enough taxes of our own - true.  but, must we submit to nonsense.  to arbitrary fines and penalties for 'infringements' of who knows what kind of whimish laws?  ie fishing quotas - blah blah blah.  i think they should take their nanny 911'ish rules and go back and teach themselves by looking at what they've actually done for the world thus far.  they don't know squat about how to maintain peace - because they are fearful of war.  if you die for what you believe - at least you had a thought in your head.

surprisingly, they will be forced into war by ahmadinejad.  it's so funny - but not hilarious because brits and americans are the target.  it's agreed on all sides.  being a christian - i just say 'ok God.  it's something that we know will happen.  partly because of becoming un-christian in attitudes towards law and balance.  when countries become unbalanced and allow the younger to rule the older - the wisdom is lost in some deaf kind of shuffle.  nobody remembers death marches anymore.

[ada]

ok.  let me say it really plain.  it really matters which side you are on.  unlike what most universities are preaching nowdays.  basically, when ahmadinejad came to columbia university - it was like saying - 'yes, we have a president - but what he stands for is really not what the country thinks.'  it was a SHAME.  SHAME on the president of columbia university for not standing up for his own country.  they are all traitors and breeding traitors like fruitflies.  the only thing is - they are young and HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED LOSING FREEDOMS.

do you know how much americans fought in the revolutionary war to WIN FREEDOM.  we don't want the UN's TAXATION!  we have enough taxes of our own - true.  but, must we submit to nonsense.  to arbitrary fines and penalties for 'infringements' of who knows what kind of whimish laws?  ie fishing quotas - blah blah blah.  i think they should take their nanny 911'ish rules and go back and teach themselves by looking at what they've actually done for the world thus far.  they don't know squat about how to maintain peace - because they are fearful of war.  if you die for what you believe - at least you had a thought in your head.

I think you need to take a deep breath and chill out, pianistimo ...

[pianistimo]

i think you should explain where your views will lead ada.  you're probably young, too.  have you ever watched some of those death marches in the phillipines.  you know - guys just being forced to walk and walk and walk.  do you think this will never happen again?  human nature is evil - and it will continue to be.  whomever is hated is eliminated.  it's no surprise.

[ada]

geez pianistimo I just posted a lighthearted news article 

[pianistimo]

it's not lighthearted when you say most of europe hates brits.  you are quite right about the hate or dislike of some europeans towards britain and usa - and yet utterly wrong about how much europe will have to fight to get any brits or us citizens to give up human rights as WE define them.

the roman empire seemed lovely to those who abided by all the rules.  very unlovely for those who didn't. particularly christians at various times.

fate is quite the same as planned destiny.  when germany went under in WWII - it didn't mean that hitler's plans were abandoned.

[ada]

it's not lighthearted when you say most of europe hates brits.  you are quite right - and yet utterly wrong about how much europe will have to fight to get any brits or us citizens to give up human rights as WE define them.

Do you want me to explain it?

It's a good-natured Australia-Britain rivalry thing. We traditionally have a go at poms and they have a go at us. Ask Thal.

Obviously "irony" and "humour" are not concepts you are acquainted with.

sheesh.

[pianistimo]

you can also find the lightheardedness in the most googled word on the european continent being 'nazi.'  ahahahahahahh   it's not really that funny.

the next googled word is 'genocide.'  jews, armenians, romas whatever!  it's people THAT AREN't CONSIDERED EQUAL.  where did that come from.  a biblical law?  no.  that's where humanistic laws fail miserably.  if we evolved - it doesn't matter.

[wotgoplunk]

Type failure into a google engine. Then hit the I'm feeling lucky button.

[pianistimo]

failure is when the UN allows turkey to say that no mass genocide of armenians happened in WWI.  when iraq's mass murders of kurds went unnoticed.  when sudan and darfur kept on and on and on.  what did germany do to protect jews in WWII.  what is it doing today to reform this problem and keep israel's right to exist?  (WHEN IT WAS THE ONLY PLACE THEY WERE ALLOWED REFUGE AFTER THE WAR - besides america.  look at the white papers). and, what is italy doing for the romas (or gypsies).  are they not equal? 

face it.  the failures are everyone's!  the ENTIRE WORLD IS A FAILURE in government.  but, at least the us and britian call to task those who say 'it never happened.'  we have at least acknowledged the injustice to slaves and a war was fought for their freedom.  now, in the history of the world - the books say that it was an afterthought of abraham lincoln.  no.  actually it wasn't.  it was very thought out.  providential.  it shows the world what it means to stand by one's word - to the point of being killed for it.

ahmadinejad says 'the holocaust never happened.'  THAT, my friend, is failure of thought.

who is getting satellite pics of burmese being burned so that no 'evidence' will exist of mass genocide by the supposed 'government' of myanmar.  who says myanmar's government is a just one?  why does the UN acknowledge the very name 'myanmar?'

controlling the world means depopulating it by whatever means.  the UN is just biding it's time.  does it care?  no.  you can see where they stand on human rights when they allow ahmadinejad to address them - when women have recently been hung as adults for 'crimes' that are a normal part of growing up in other countries (ie dating).  does the UN care about women in africa that are robbed of clothing for wearing pants.  does anyone say anything?  no - they're all men (mostly) and probably all for depopulation.  it's a dog-eat-dog world and it's not going to get prettier. 

oh.  climate control is the 'thing?'  what about PEOPLE?  the other idiocy is that a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE IS ABOUT CLIMATE CONTROL AND NOT SUDAN OR DARFUR OR BURMA OR IRAQ.  peace in israel has to be fought for by people repeatedly saying the same things over and over to deaf ears. 

we are obviously on two very different sides of a fence.  one is 'who cares.'  the other is 'i care.'  the difficult thing is that the precedents of the last war are being challenged NOW.  do you have 'congressmen' to speak for every district of your country at UN delegations?  no.  you have a few - to speak for the masses.  what does that say?  we are talking mass governmental controls.  you are among a million zillion people that need 'health care reform.'  well, as i see it - hillary clinton can go stuff it into a halloween bag and take it back to the UN for scarfing on.  i don't want to go to a 'clinic' that is lining up people around the corner for square pieces of kleenex.  and IF PEOPLE PAY INTO A SYSTEM - WHY THE BLAH BLAH ABOUT WHO MAKES OVER 60,000. dollars.  if you are successful in life - shouldn't you have equal health care under this insidious system anyways?  robbing the rich to feed the poor only goes so far.  how about making the system maintain the precedents that it has had by allowing people to choose their own doctors (albeit HMO's - which in some cases can be very good if one has a steady job).  i think what needs reforming is benefits for self-employed people.  but hillary doesn't like entrepreneurs.

[pianistimo]

ok.  do you want a disincentivized population that waits on governmental assistance at every turn?  i don't.  i'd rather die.  frankly, this whole thing is making me want to hole up somewhere's for 10 years and come out and just be surprised instead of watch it all happen.  it's like watching your mother die.  your mother country.

if any ghosts are ressurrected now - it's going to be abraham lincoln's for me.  where the poor are taught how to make their country prosper by the means of :  morality, sobriety, enterprise, and industry.  now, granted - not all poor countries lack these.  in fact, some smaller countries are far beyond the values of what used to be our own fair country.  on the other hand, terrorists have taken over many small countries (such as the phillipines).  if they had just one of the above (morality) - they would be doing well.  yes.  the same goes for the usa.  we aren't especially moral anymores.  where does it lead?  MASS WASTE.  (ie insurance fraud...)

environmental control out of control.  that's another thing.  nobody really knows (because they haven't studied it for years - excepting a few small schools) how to manage the environment effectively.  to naturally promote or depromote species.  to maintain bee populations for effective fertilization.  to not dump sewage into rivers.

[maul]

Someone watches Fox News.

Way too much.

[pianistimo]

no.  my tv is broken.  thank God!

i can think for myself and am finding books and articles to be much more helpful.  in fact, popular opinion can be very misleading.  especially ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND AL GORE.  basically, just watching the environment fall apart and warning others after it has already happened is like burning a frozen dinner.  i just watch him move his mouth.  what he is actually saying is that 'it doesn't matter who is elected president.  i have the approval of a united nations body under the guise of the IPCC.'  does it matter that he falsified some of his global warming arguments?  nobody reads his stuff that closely anyways.  remember - we're all here to applaud and nothing else.

actually, al gore is very smart.  if hillary wins -he'll still be above her - because he has already connected with friends in high places and plans to divest money won from this nobel peace prize back into the country that granted it.  will it help our continent in any way?  i don't know.  let's see what al gore actually does with the money.  will any of it stay here?  i believe NO.  i think it is going into policy making and not ACTION.

al gore actually has the opportunity to help us help ourselves.  alaska has reserves that need protection - and at the same time environmental concerns THAT COST MILLIONS.  will any of the money go to ALASKA?  huh al gore?

remember what happened with UN agenda 21?  deforestation.  oh.  hmm.  really good idea!  let's award another nobel peace prize for figuring out why we have this climate problem in the first place.  is this mentioned in al gore's book?  HAS AL GORE EVER PLANTED A TREE?  ok.  maybe one.  for a photo op.  he tells his girls they grew up in kansas?  woah.  do they know about farming?

i must go back to abraham lincoln or i will have a  heart attack.  btw, why hasn't ralph nadar won a nobel peace prize?  he talked about this wayyyyy longer than gore.  did you know that he helped establish many environmental agencies in the us.  and he wrote more books than gore on the environment.  i suggest we switch the prize to nadar.  here's why:
https://www.harley.com/people/ralph-nader.html  HE ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING GOVERNMENTALLY. 

not only that - he NEVER speaks out of two sides of his mouth.  the UN wants to still dump iron into the ocean when 25 million tons of uptake from the atmosphere by gas is exchanged with the surface ocean waters and that ph levels have changed by 1 entire point.  what will happen when the ph is radically changed (for good or bad we don't know because we've never dumped iron into the deep ocean before).  balance of the ocean is important for the environment.  what does al gore think about this dumping?  i don't think nadar would be for the idea.  i can almost hear nadar talking - but when i see al gore all i see is a mouth moving.  i think that he has to make action before writing books.

[leahcim]

A survey has found that no one likes Brits. In the survey, Europeans were asked how much they liked a range of nationalities, including Spaniards, Poles, Germans and Britons.

Pah.

https://blogs.smh.com.au/travel/archives/2007/03/new_yanks_and_jafas_why_no_one.html

 

[gilad]

A very sad for South Africa.

 Musician Dube gunned down during hijacking

https://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=15&art_id=nw20071018230219313C582392

[mephisto]

ahmadinejad says 'the holocaust never happened.'  THAT, my friend, is failure of thought.

Give me the EXACY quote in both Englsih and Persian.

[pianistimo]

ok - semantics.  he called the holocaust a 'myth.'  here's what cnn said in 2005 about his rantings.  move the jews to alaska or canada?  he said that RECENTLY AGAIN.  what an idea?!

https://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/14/iran.israel/

neither they nor the palestinians have recognized the state of israel.  there are many jews in many places of the world now - but the state of israel is their national home  - just like any other country has nationals.  i think it's rather odd for him to say alaska or canada.  doesn't he recognize historical precedent?  that is why i believe we are in an unpeaceful situation.  they won't accept the boundaries given after WWII which divided israel and palestine into two states.  didn't want it.  why?  it's just odd.  they don't like peace - that's why.  it's always unrest and instability because they can't control themselves.

if they respected the bible as much as the koran - they'd see that they are actually brothers.  abraham is a common father in BOTH books.  abraham's sons issac and ishmael were half-brothers.  that's why they both are in a similar place still to this day.

the historic boundaries of israel were given to them by God.  forever.  man can change places and times and think that they are doing the world a service...but Yeshua is coming back to the holy land and to the mount of olives.  there is a question in the bible as to whether he will 'find faith.'  part of this faith means to hold on to promises.  and one of the promises was to guard the torah and the holy places (archeological sites) because they PROVE the bible true.  who else cares about this but the jews!  christians care, too - but they aren't able to understand the archeological digs like the jewish people do as much.  they understand the ancient history.

if you read the book of chronicles in the bible - you will see that God also gave the arabic and palestinian and jordanian peoples specific boundaries that israel should not attempt to take.  none of the current land is disputed by israel.  so why - (when israel has the smallest amount of land over there) should theirs be disputed?  it's just odd.

another thing mentioned in the bible that people are aware of but not realizing is coming to pass is the presenting of UN agenda to enforce peace in israel - that will end with ALL NATIONS doing battle at har megiddo.  armageddon.  it is then that yeshua will return and bring peace to the entire planet (according to the bible).  the reign of Jesus or Yeshua is said to usher in 1000 years of peace on this very earth!  now, if you don't believe the bible - then war is the option.  if you do - you'll wait and let God fight for you.  it is said that when the UN begins implementing it's agenda - the aim will be world domination.  they just don't realize whom they are fighting against.  it's no longer countries against countries, really - but a last battle between Satan and God.  it all sounds like a video game or something - but mankinds ability to do battle against God is very limited.  why not pick the winning side?

if you believe the bible - read this!  it is news that is to the point at this very time in history:
https://free.pages.at/beyondstars/endworld/signs/return-b.htm

btw, i think that the jewish people actually witness to the christian churches, too, about how to truly worship in holiness.  after all, they have the torah.  many christian churches say it was all done away.  but the jews know that Yeshua said 'not one jot or one title shall escape from the law until all is fulfilled.'  Yeshua came to do His Father's will.  that means - to the best of His ability - he kept the torah.  what about christian churches today?  they should actually look to the jews as to what to observe.  they observe many pagan holidays instead of truly christian ones mentioned as being kept by the early disciples.  do you think the early disciples kept halloween?  well, that's another subject and certainly not a news event.  although nothing good seems to happen on halloween. emergency rooms are always full that night.

[mephisto]

neither they nor the palestinians have recognized the state of israel. 

No Israeli government has ever recognized a Palestinian state.

If you held the same principals across the board it is a moral judgement. If you hold something against only one and not everybody it is hypocrisy.

I do also belive that when Ahmadinejad said that the Holocoust had gotten a  mytical status.  Give me the exact persian quote.

[pianogeek_cz]

No Israeli government has ever recognized a Palestinian state.

Obviously, because there is none.

Also, remember that when things were close to anything like a Palestinian state (1947 division plan, Oslo Accords), it was the Arabs who threw it in the dustbin.

[pianogeek_cz]

https://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/10/19/moos.putins.eyes.cnn

ROFL
Awesome.

[mephisto]

Obviously, because there is none.

Also, remember that when things were close to anything like a Palestinian state (1947 division plan, Oslo Accords), it was the Arabs who threw it in the dustbin.

I am wel aware of this. The Palestinians like any other people refused to give up their land to a hostle settler movement. The Palestinians made up 2/3 of the historical Palestine at that time.

[pianistimo]

and who dwelt there before?  israel existed as a nation in bible times.  it was not disputed.  then various resettlements occurred under roman occupation (this can be confirmed by history books).  but, many religious sites have direct connection to the jewish people.  archeological sites confirm the city of david (which is referring to king david) - and prove that he was an israelite king.  it's an age-old rivalry between the children of issac and ishmael.

btw, if i misquoted ahmadinejad, i'm sorry.  i think he said (in persian) 'mythical proportions.'  but when he goes on to say that if palestians should share the holy land - so should the rest of the world (ie alaska and canada as two examples of prime real estate).   the thing is - there is no history there of israel as a country existing in that location.  there is in the 'land of israel.'

in fact, i believe that before WWI it was a place where jews and arabs lived together.  to say one has lived there for 'however many years' without the other is denying a sort of 'twinning' situtation.  they are brothers from bible times.  history of israel's rebirth after the ottoman empire is explained here:

https://www.masada2000.org/historical.html

israel, jordan and the west bank was under a british mandate,  and syria and lebanon under french mandate.

[ramithediv]

It's a good-natured Australia-Britain rivalry thing. We traditionally have a go at poms and they have a go at us.

Yes, we know that, and it's all in good fun. 

Obviously "irony" and "humour" are not concepts you are acquainted with.

You are very observant. 

[thalbergmad]

and who dwelt there before? 

Good thinking.

Perhaps the land rightfully belongs to a school of amoebas.

Thal

[pianistimo]

with all the resources we have in dna - this age old problem would be considered a trite one.  israel's past is centered rightfully in the nation of israel.  to doubt israel's claim to the land promised them by God is to doubt their dna.  this is racist.  it is the smallest country on the earth and it doesn't deserve to exist?  that's what the palestinians say.  they have jordan and palestine.  but, do not acknowledge the right for israel TO EXIST AT ALL.  this is not a joke.  giving palestine more area in israel is simply submitting to their ideas of how to destroy israel.  not to live peacefully with israel.  some of the palestinians and some of the israelis COULD live together in peace - but those who are radical destroy the chances for everyone.

perhaps the beginning of this division was the idea that muhammad was a true prophet and ascended to heaven in a night-long journey in AD 621 at the dome of the rock.  who confirmed this but the prophet and his wife.  nobody else.  it was a move to take the word of God against the word of muhammad.  the bible says this place was the very place that abraham was told to sacrifice his son issac (pre-figuring Jesus Christ or Yeshua) and given a substitute sacrifice.  since then - the arabs have decided that it was actually ishmael who was to be sacrificed.  this shows that particular rivalry that the arabs have not just with israel but with the true God.  they want to be in the 'firstborn' status - but like jacob and esau - the birthright was given to whomever God gave it to.  and, yet will bless the entire world in the future.

i believe that despite how irreligious the world has become - this is the center of news because God deems it so.  why else would it be important so many years after the 'fathers?'  maybe the promises granted by God cannot be recinded except by curses.  if God gave the land to israel and other land to palestinians (ishmael's descendants) and told them not to cross each other's borders - who are they defying? 

[thalbergmad]

Here's one specially for you, Thal:

A survey has found that no one likes Brits.

Nobody likes us, only our Country.

Thal

[ramithediv]

Nobody likes us, only our Country.

Thal

Particularly our rapidly diminishing welfare state. 

[thalbergmad]

it is the smallest country on the earth

No, that is Vatican City.

Similar though as they are both a centre for tambo banging.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

Particularly our rapidly diminishing welfare state. 

Not surprising realy since the NHS spent £86,000,000 on translators last year.

Could have built 10 hospitals with that,or even better we could have used the money to flush back down the toilet the latest wave of human dung sneaking over our borders.

Thal