if god exists, hes kinda *not very nice*

[opus10no2]

whether or not there is a 'god' we cannot be certain

whether or not its worth worshipping...we can be certain the answer is no


is it possible that with all the suffering in this world that there could exist a god?
sure, if hes a *not nice person*

[morningstar]

Oh lovely, yet another religious thread wher God gets bashed.

[mephisto]

Read the book of Job and you will see the christian reason for this.

[G.W.K]

Oh lovely, yet another religious thread wher God gets bashed.

I know. There is no right or wrong answer to it, so there is no point trying to guess about it. Hardly anyone seems to understand that here...

I would not take anything opus10no2 has to say, however. He can easily be tricked...

G.W.K

[morningstar]

Read the book of Job and you will see the christian reason for this.

i have read it, being a christian and all...
Why does it have to be the Christian one all the time? There's a few hundred other ones!

[morningstar]

I know. There is no right or wrong answer to it, so there is no point trying to guess about it. Hardly anyone seems to understand that here...

I would not take anything opus10no2 has to say, however. He can easily be tricked...

G.W.K

The thread is based on opinion from the start and the title alone is enough to piss some people off. It won't leave him in good stead with a lady he's been talking to either...

[opus10no2]

is the christian reason as good as the reason for pianistimo?

[opus10no2]

The thread is based on opinion from the start and the title alone is enough to piss some people off. It won't leave him in good stead with a lady he's been talking to either...

its an opinion to say hitler wasnt a nice person too 

[morningstar]

its an opinion to say hitler wasnt a nice person too 

It is, but this thread happens to be about God not Hitler and it's this thead that the comment was made for. Why the  , do you know who I'm talking about? lol

[G.W.K]

It won't leave him in good stead with a lady he's been talking to either

Knowing opus10no2's past record on here, it's probably a guy tricking him...LOL

G.W.K

[morningstar]

Knowing opus10no2's past record on here, it's probably a guy tricking him...LOL

G.W.K

Thing is I know the lady in question too. He has a past record?
BTW opus changing the title doesn't help much

[opus10no2]

lol

is it silly for creatures to question their creator?

[G.W.K]

Thing is I know the lady in question too. He has a past record?
BTW opus changing the title doesn't help much

Oh yes...a rather amusing past record. But that is for another day...

G.W.K

[morningstar]

lol

is it silly for creatures to question their creator?

Christians don't question their creator. Your point?

[opus10no2]

lol point proven thx

[morningstar]

lol point proven thx

are you claiming that all Christians are silly?

[opus10no2]

its what jesus would do

[morningstar]

its what jesus would do

Whatever. I'm done in this thread.

[tanman]

bleh.
I hope pianistimom answers your question. 

[morningstar]

bleh.
I hope pianistimom answers your question. 

I hope that by the time she comes back this thread is deep in the bowels of the archives where it belongs.
Sorry guys couldn't resist coming back to argue more.

[gyzzzmo]

are you claiming that all Christians are silly?

Alot of them are....
Maybe silly isnt the correct word, but they're incapable to really question things, and believe itself gives them comfort. But they could also believe that King Kong WAS a giant monkey who fell in love with a woman, they just didnt grow up with that possibility.

[gyzzzmo]

I hope that by the time she comes back this thread is deep in the bowels of the archives where it belongs.
Sorry guys couldn't resist coming back to argue more.

The point about Pianistimo was that she gave practically all her replies a rediculous religious twist. There was no need for us to start religious discussions ourselves.

[G.W.K]

Oh for Christ's Sake! (Excuse the pun)

Are you all going to continue arguing about a banned member and an entity that may/may not exist?

G.W.K

[morningstar]

Oh for Christ's Sake! (Excuse the pun)

Are you all going to continue arguing about a banned member and an entity that may/may not exist?

G.W.K

Maybe they think she's an easier target now she's not here to counter with scripture. Cowards! Go and fight the bible face to face! lol

[opus10no2]

Maybe they think she's an easier target now she's not here to counter with scripture. Cowards! Go and fight the bible face to face! lol

the bible is to be taken as seriously as this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_Earth_(film)

Oh for Christ's Sake! (Excuse the pun)

Are you all going to continue arguing about a banned member and an entity that may/may not exist?

this thread hypothesises that it does exist, and simply questions the purpose of worship and believing it to be a good thing.

[ahinton]

Oh for Christ's Sake! (Excuse the pun)

Are you all going to continue arguing about a banned member and an entity that may/may not exist?

G.W.K

Do we know for certain that she has been banned for a second time? Her recent contributions to the forum have certainly been less existent than God is to all those who believe in Him.

I agree that this is hardly the place to discuss a particular form member, banned or otherwise, unless that member be God Himself and I do not see Him on the members' list.

Best,

Alistair

[morningstar]

I agree that this is hardly the place to discuss a particular form member, banned or otherwise, unless that member be God Himself and I do not see Him on the members' list.

Best,

Alistair

Perhaps he's using an alias?

[pianoplayer88]

I agree that this is hardly the place to discuss a particular form member, banned or otherwise, unless that member be God Himself and I do not see Him on the members' list.

Best,

Alistair

Well, you can't see Him anyway, so why would He appear on the members' list?

[ahinton]

Perhaps he's using an alias?

One may suppose that this might not be entirely impossible, but only nils johan will be able to divulge one way or the other, if he sees fit and if by so doing he does not breach ony of his own or the forum's rules on member data confidentiality...

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

Well, you can't see Him anyway, so why would He appear on the members' list?

Whether or not anyone can "see" God depends entirely upon their beliefs, a fact to which my case is no exception, but then my reference was intended to raise the question of whether His name, rather than God Himself, appears on that list.

In any case, if God were "kinda "not very nice"", it would be less than unreasonable to assume that He is not, after all, a member of this distinguished forum for, if He were a member, He'd surely have to be "very nice", would He not? - otherwise He'd be wholly out of place in such nice company...

Best,

Alistair

[mikey6]

She got banned how?

[communist]

god puts you in this world, good things happen and bad things happen, but he only punishes you if you are deserve it

[gyzzzmo]

god puts you in this world, good things happen and bad things happen, but he only punishes you if you are deserve it

I guess God has a day off..... or an eon. Or he's having fun with his angels, i heard some of them are pretty hot...

[morningstar]

I guess God has a day off..... or an eon. Or he's having fun with his angels, i heard some of them are pretty hot...

And yet you claim that people just don't read your posts properly? Far out.

[gyzzzmo]

And yet you claim that people just don't read your posts properly? Far out.

*Sigh* i'll spell it out for you, i suppose you need it.
Communist claimed that God only punishes if people deserved it right? God must have a couple of years off, since punishing always seem to happen totally randomly. Good people get cancer, bad people the chicks.

[thalbergmad]

Good people get cancer, bad people the chicks.

I only hope that in heaven, it is the opposite.

Thal

[gyzzzmo]

I only hope that in heaven, it is the opposite.

Thal

Good lord, is it possible then that we all made mistakes in our former life, and that earth Is actually already hell?

[thalbergmad]

Good lord, is it possible then that we all made mistakes in our former life, and that earth Is actually already hell?

Well, the part that i inhabit is.

What about yours?

Thal

[debussy symbolism]

Why worship a God that can kill you just because he can? Mass murder, no problem. Homicide, of course. Bombings, that's daily for God.

[loonbohol]

Why worship a God that can kill you just because he can? Mass murder, no problem. Homicide, of course. Bombings, that's daily for God.

Judgement day

[mephisto]

i have read it, being a christian and all...
Why does it have to be the Christian one all the time? There's a few hundred other ones!

Sorry, it was an aswer to opus10no2, not you.

[gyzzzmo]

Well, the part that i inhabit is.

What about yours?

Thal

Well my habitat is actually pretty okay, but i have connections with  mr D himself.

[csharp_minor]

Its intresting actually, God does have a strange way of giving things life.

I was looking after a hawk moth caterpillar, and keept it a jar with leaves and stuff. The caterpillar was big and so it was going to pupate. The next day I found it dead, with all these little maggots near it.

They were the larvae of parasitic wasps. A wasp had laid its eggs in the caterpillar when it was small and the eggs hatched turned into maggots and were slowly feeding off the caterpillar; then they burst out of the poor thing (when it was alive) and it died . From the day the wasp laid its eggs in it, the caterpillar was a walking (crawling) time bomb, or the living dead.

It was this that also caused Darwin to question the belief in an all loving God.

God, why did you make the life cycle of that kind of wasp so horrible!
So yes, God is ''kinda not very nice''.

[opus10no2]

precisely, but some insist on giving him a daily/weekly beejay to try to keep his wrath at bay

ya...gd luck with that  lolz

[csharp_minor]

ya...gd luck with that  lolz

The caterpillar died so, its a bit late for that . But if I see another next year I will try to help it

I do belive in God, but not in the conventional way, that God is a white man with a white beard wearing a white toga, laying about on white fluffy clouds lol.

More in the way that God is a kind of force, neither good or bad; the thing that caused the Big Bang perhaps? My God has no gender.

[G.W.K]

Good lord, is it possible then that we all made mistakes in our former life, and that earth Is actually already hell?

I've been thinking that for years...

G.W.K

[thalbergmad]

Well, you do live in Glasgow.

[gyzzzmo]

Interesting thread though. If theres a god and he is actually as loving as the second part of the bible claims, why is there still the 'belief' and 'doubt'. Why doesnt that good old Chap just appear on earth, to free us from all those doubts and free us from religious wars?
Or doesnt he give a damn what happens to us? And in that case, why would we care, in in that case, why would an almighty God care?

Gyzzzmo

[xxmynameisjohnxx]

I'm a Christian and I'm not gonna get into this debate really because I don't see any reason to argue this with you since neither of us would really be willing to change our views....but I have to say that everyone in here who is complaining about God doing or allowing "mean" things obviously has either not read the Bible and is making assumptions based on select verses and what people say, or they do now have an understanding of who the God of the Bible actually is.  This would be a subject I'd need to talk to someone about in person about to really do it justice, so I'm not going to try to do it online.  But really, please don't bash what 40% of the world believes when you don't actually have an understanding of what it is.

Also, don't pull any of the "well the Catholics 400 years ago went on crusades killing muslims" and other evils done in the name of God.  These people really didn't get the entire message of Jesus and the gospel.  The entire Bible boils down to loving people, which anyone doing something unloving in the name of God is not actually acting in God's name...and it gives those of us really trying to live it a bad name.

[00range]

I'm a Christian and I'm not gonna get into this debate really because I don't see any reason to argue this with you since neither of us would really be willing to change our views....

There's no real big difference between the views of an Atheist and a Christian. We both disregard as absurd the existence of thousands of gods. Atheists are just rational enough to go one further.

The entire Bible boils down to loving people[...]

Except for, you know, more than half of it.

Dawkins put it best, saying of the God depicted in the Old Testament:

[..]arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.