For those of you who don't believe in God

[pianistimo]

If G-d forgives sin - you are no longer sinful are you?  Something for one to consider before one dies.  I'm not so certain that Mary Magdalene had any other problems aside from being demon possessed.  What makes you think she was a prostitute (when those who indulged in that were typically killed in the jewish community for that activity).  I rather think she was unable to use her mind properly and shouted out things that she was 'inspired' to say - and was calmed by the Spirit of G-d.

[G.W.K]

some of you are only halfway through your education

Who is "halfway through their education"? As far as I know, most of the people in this thread are out of school.

Age is not a measure of intelligence, there are young children who become geniuses.

G.W.K

[G.W.K]

If G-d forgives sin - you are no longer sinful are you?  Something for one to consider before one dies.

That isn't the point I am making. Jesus - the human form of God - indulged in sins, breaking his own teachings. Don't you see? There are loopholes all through the damn Bible!

G.W.K

[pianistimo]

What sin did He commit?  He was sinLESS.  That means - He is outside the boundaries of our time and space and He is able to connect with G-d on the deepest level possible to man and G-d.  He often fasted and prayed.  That was his strength in overcoming the temptations of Satan.  He was victorious.  THat you cannot stand. 

Well, I'm still waiting to prove my G-d.  That He is powerful and able to do anything.  So...ask away. I'm still waiting.

A very interesting verse unrelated to personal needs are the prayers of Elijah to prove to others that G-d existed - but from the angle of showing them that G-d can also TAKE AWAY.  I Peter 5:17 'Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain; and it did not rain on the earth for three years and six months.  And he prayed again, and the sky poured rain, and the earth produced its fruit.'

Now, in Revelations - there are going to be two witnesses.  They also will pray for the same exact thing.  When people see it - they will know G-d exists and that through Him we have the blessings of rain.

[G.W.K]

What sin did He commit?  He was sinLESS.  That means - He is outside the boundaries of our time and space and He is able to connect with G-d on the deepest level possible to man and G-d.  He often fasted and prayed.  That was his strength in overcoming the temptations of Satan.  He was victorious.  THat you cannot stand.

Don't you dare sit there and assume things about me. You don't even bloody know me! I'm not questioning how devoted Jesus WAS to Christianity...I'm questioning Jesus's supposedly "sinless" self!

And whilst I'm at it, the thing you hate the most: science...PROVED that Adam and Eve were not the first people on the planet. People don't just "pop" out of thin air. If you go back through all the generations, it links to more than just two people AND those first humans are linked to mutated apes which are linked to monkeys.

But of course...that will be denied, so I'm wasting my time here.

G.W.K

[G.W.K]

So...ask away. I'm still waiting.

You'll be waiting a long time. I see no point in continuing this pointless argument and may as well give you the satisfication of driving away yet another member from this thread.

G.W.K

[pianistimo]

Why should people be driven away when an experiment hasn't even been performed satisfactorily to prove either side?

[G.W.K]

Why should people be driven away when an experiment hasn't even been performed satisfactorily to prove either side?

I mean being driven away from this post by you. However, I will leave you something to think about. Think of something you don't believe exists...for example: dragons and vampires, etc.

The same argument could be used with them. There have been countless books wrote about dragons and vampires, it doesn't mean they DO exist. However, I could turn round and swear that they really do exist because so many people have wrote about it.

But they don't exist. It's all belief. NOTHING proves their existence, and yet it would remain an endless argument like this one.

G.W.K

P.S. I am not referring to Komodo Dragons, etc. I am referring to those massive, flying, fire-breathing ones in fiction books. (Just in case anyone tries to contradict me.)

[pianistimo]

I have never been driven away by a dragon.  If it doesn't exist - it doesn't affect me.  You all argue like there's some problem here.  If it is a problem - then apparently you think it exists.  Or, rather G-d exists.  Otherwise this argument would be meaningless to you and you wouldn't have to resort to saying someone else has no intellect because they believe in G-d. 

[timothy42b]

The other geneaology is Mary's. 

Ah, pianistimo, you are surely going to hell for changing the Bible.  Luke clearly says the geneology is that of Joseph's.  True, that geneology differs from Matthew's, but you're stuck with it.  It is a contradiction. 

By the way, who is Joseph's father? 

[michel dvorsky]

Richard Dawkins addresses Pianistimo:

[antichrist]

Those stupid evidence had already been smashed long long time ago by all great philosopher EASILY
 
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but   For those of us  who don't believe in God....

WHICH GOD?

There are thousands of gods ,every nation has one or more

[term]

Richard Dawkins addresses Pianistimo:

muahaha 

I don't like dawkins, he totally plays the science vs. religion game, but sometimes he's liekable.

[G.W.K]

I have never been driven away by a dragon.

You stupid woman...do you not understand simple English? I stated my point very clearly...I did not mention being driven away by any dragons.

antichrist: True, there are many Gods and Goddesses.

G.W.K

[morningstar]

Polytheism anyone?

[cmg]

Why?  Are you afraid that G-d is real?

OK.  To make this expression of belief a little stronger - ANYONE who needs prayers about anything in their life (make sure it is something you really are worried about or need healing from and is not something made up) - list it here.  I will pray for a month for all of you.  Then, everyone come back after a month and list what happened.  Alright?

Pianistimo is offering a perfect test of her faith for doubters here.  Of course, it would be no proof of the power of prayer to ask, for example, for some illness to be taken away.  How would anyone know if medical science did the magic, or simple spontaneous remission?  Or God?  How could she prove the power of prayer conclusively in this instance? 

I have, I think, a good test for prayer.  For those of us raised Christian but now without Faith, perhaps pianistimo could pray for us to have our Faith restored.  Regaining that childlike assurance that "Jesus walks with us" and has prepared a "place in heaven for us," would truly be proof of the power of prayer.  Faith can't be bought or earned.  It's a gift from God, I'm told.

I'll be first to ask, then:  pianistimo, your prayers to God on my behalf to restore my lost Faith would be much appreciated.  I'll even give you as much time as you need.  A month seems a little bit of a tight squeeze.

And I thank you for your very generous offer.

[pianistimo]

Cmg, believe it or not I have already been doing so for several members, but I shall add you to the list if you so desire.  Sometimes it is apparent that some already have that 'mustard seed' of faith.  Others don't comprehend anything outside of time and space until it is proven to them personally.  That is why prayer being answered in a specific person's life over a specific problem is the most rewarding to faith.

And, I will take the time to listen to Dawkins again - no matter how differently I feel about his beliefs vs. my own faith/beliefs.  I do think that he is fairly biased himself (considering that typically one has to put things in a sort of perspective of 'man vs. man' instead of 'man vs. G-d' or with G-d).

Something kind of random to think about is that Josephus and other historians, though they may have had their own 'ax's to grind' - did witness events and write them down.  One was the total eclipse of the sun during the sufferring of Jesus Christ on the cross.  According to MArk, he was crucified at the third hour (9 am) and for three hours it was light.  Then, at the sixth hour - all of a sudden there was a total eclipse of the sun (or appeared to be) because darkness covered the land until he died.  Three hours of light and three hours of complete darkness.

Now, Josephus mentions this very same eclipse.  If you understand jewish holy day reckoning you'll know that the new moon appears at the beginning of the month and by Passover it was the 14th day of the  month and at 'even' Jesus was dead.  this would have been a period when the moon was full and not a new moon.  Jesus was the 'passover lamb' sacrificed for the entire world and for sin.  Anyways - a true full SOLAR eclipse can only happen every 70 years - but a SOLAR eclipse that happens when there is NO NEW MOON - is UNHEARD OF.  Fourteen days into the lunar cycle would create a FULL MOON in which the moon would be on the opposite side of the earth.  So who made the darkness cover the land?

Nobody can explain this odd phenomenon that actually happened in history.

Here's a site on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_eclipse


From a science perspective, i rather think that this recorded solar eclipse at an odd time with the moon at the opposite side of the earth - is probably the most amazing miracle yet that is documented besides the ressurrection. 

[pianistimo]

Some sites - such as one in wikipedia under 'total solar eclipse' mention *need source citation   when they say TOTAL eclipses of the sun happen frequently.  They were, in history quite infrequent.

However, I am wondering something else.  A total solar eclipse was said to occur in 1970 (the previous one in 1900) and yet another total eclipse was supposedly witnessed in Europe August 11, 1999.  That would make only 29 years between 1970 and 1999.  Now, August 1, 2008 there was another total eclipse of the sun.  And, that was only nine years after the last one.

So, even though this does not diminish the fact that the total solar eclipse that happened during Jesus crucifixion could not have happened during a full moon - scientifically - What is the phenomenon now causing Total Solar Eclipses to be closer and closer together (though they still happen on a NEW moon)?  Can this be scientifically explained?

Are the longest lasting total solar eclipses near the mid point of the earth (equator) and seen by the most people and therefore counted differently because of the corona and whatever? and how they appear?  I'm just wondering if the term 'total' solar eclipse has been changed to suit eclipses which are not 'total' in the sense of the suns rays being completely covered and the illumination is still visible.  In Jesus time - the total eclipse made the entire earth dark and it doesn't mention any visible light.

[db05]

Why?  Are you afraid that G-d is real?

OK.  To make this expression of belief a little stronger - ANYONE who needs prayers about anything in their life (make sure it is something you really are worried about or need healing from and is not something made up) - list it here.  I will pray for a month for all of you.  Then, everyone come back after a month and list what happened.  Alright?

You serious?

Since I was in high school, I found out that G-d is created by humans by their thoughts (conscious or unconscious). More experiences in college further cemented that idea. To be in control of your own life, that is everyone's dream. Maybe a nightmare for a few. But it is usually great to have a choice. Isn't that the point of a democracy? Having one all-powerful G-d is like, living in a communist country (sorry commie)... or dictatorial...

pianistimom, you can't believe how much pressure this is. But I wouldn't want otherwise. G-d is as real as you make Him to be. And right now, my G-d is soft clay. It has no real shape yet. I can't even think of what I want. Sometimes it drives me nuts. Do I want to form a piano, bake the clay, and live with that? I'm not sure. Not really sure.

I can't even start on the G-d thing because I'm working on my resolve. Which I lack because I haven't really found anything that I want more than anything, that I can do for the rest of my life... Unless you count being with someone.......

Mere objects had never held my attention for very long. Ideas, rules, "G-d"s included... I consider individuals most important...

Okay. Things I might need special help with. I'm having a hard time getting along with some people. People I actually like and look up to. One I love so much, I think he might just be the one... Everyone thinks I'm crazy, but they don't know how I feel.

I still sort of believe in miracles. I don't agree with your philosophy, but the good intentions definitely go somewhere. And just maybe, my persistence with love life would pay off.

I hope you understand what I'm trying to say, not being able to make a proper list. I hold you to your promise. See you in a month.

[pianistimo]

Well, I'm no genie, as I said - but I can pray for things for others quite easily.  Solomon prayed for wisdom in life and he also got riches, glory, and honor.   So...it's not too much for G-d to fill your cup to overflowing.  But, if you constantly put Him in your  hands as clay and not yourself in His - how can He answer your prayer without proper respect?

Now, I will pray for you and cmg on the condition that you both hold out the possiblity that G-d is REAL and CAN answer your prayer.  Cmg already has this mustard seed of faith.  For the entire month (every day you are awake) you must  hold out the possiblity that your request will be answered.  Not in just in the manner that you seek - but that manner that G-d has already pre-ordained.  You see - I think that love is almost the most important thing G-d does in life.  He made careful provision for many saints to have the mate that He chose based upon how they viewed service.  Issac found Rebekkah and his servant knew she was the 'one' based upon how she was willing to serve - and yet she was also beautiful.  So...to switch the places:

A man is most certainly ordained for you - but he is the one searching for you at this moment and possibly during this month.  You must not DO anything to connect with anyone this entire month.  Not on the internet (excepting your regular chat), not calling, not doing anything but your regular studies.  If someone becomes interested in you as a possible person to date - I cannot expect that you would be married at the end of the month, but you could via prayer, know that G-d will connect you to this person without any of your own doing.

If i can also interject my experience here - in terms of ANY prayer - don't expect it to be answered tommorrow.  But, don't lose faith when it is the moment before the last minute of the last day of the month.  I'm not saying this guy will call at midnight - but the way G-d answers prayer is to TEST your faith.  After all, it's easy for Him to do anything at any time and moment.

[pianistimo]

Saturday, 31st of January is the target date (giving a full 30 days).  You can choose to report on Sunday the first of February if you want.  Anyways, I look forward to these two prayers being answered and would gladly accept any more that come my way.  Just make sure and honestly say what has happened.  Please include if you kept up hope that your prayer would be answered.  If you need encouragement - I'll also pray for your faith which is the most important and first prayer actually for a prayer to be answered.  G-d typically doesn't answer unbelief until one prays to overcome the unbelief.  It's like asking money from your father.  Will he give it to you if you are grabby?

[db05]

Well, I'm no genie, as I said - but I can pray for things for others quite easily.  Solomon prayed for wisdom in life and he also got riches, glory, and honor.   So...it's not too much for G-d to fill your cup to overflowing.  But, if you constantly put Him in your  hands as clay and not yourself in His - how can He answer your prayer without proper respect?

Like David, Solomon ended up falling to sin in the end... Wisdom or anything in itself is worth little and might even be dangerous. That's what I'd learned. Knowing exactly what you want, sense of purpose, and the intention to do good, THAT'S what's important. Judging from history, it is SO HARD to keep that up. It might be a lot to ask, but I want the clarity and the will to go on for a lifetime.

I reiterate, leaving my life up to G-d is like living in a dictatorship. And without freedom, there is no real love. Just arranged marriages. I don't live in ancient China, you know. I agree that love is an important thing, but it runs contrary to the idea of an all-powerful G-d.

I know I get problems because I need to learn some things, and change some aspects of myself. So long as I can do something about it, I want to do what I can before asking a G-d for anything. Self-improvement. So I can't imagine just doing regular stuff.

[thalbergmad]

All you need to do is ask for something good. 

Thou shalt not put the Lord thy God to the test.

However, i want a gorgeous blonde in her mid twenties with gigantic breasts to knock at my door and demand i make love to her.

If this happens with 2 weeks, i will become a believer.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

Did you know Jesus probably would have married Mary Magdalene had he not been G-d and known of His own death ahead of time. 

If Jesus was single, I am sure the apostles would have mentioned it.

They would have no need to say anything if he was married, as that was normal for a Jewish man of the times.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

Some sites - such as one in wikipedia under 'total solar eclipse' mention *need source citation   when they say TOTAL eclipses of the sun happen frequently.  They were, in history quite infrequent.

HAHAHAHAHAHA, i have just choked on me dinner.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

In Jesus time - the total eclipse made the entire earth dark and it doesn't mention any visible light.

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thalbergmad]

Where is she?

Has she gone to say all the prayers for us?

She will be up all bloody night.

Thal

[pianistimo]

Three prayers takes all of five minutes.  I actually prayed for cmg and db05 - but db05 has confirmed that she wants to do it all herself.  So...the point of prayer is pointless on that one unless she changes her mind.  The idea of doing isn't nixed just because you pray.  After all, Issac's servant even made conditions upon the prayer so that he would believe himself!  He said, 'let her give me water and also the camels.'

Now, in today's society, db05 - don't you want someone who will stick by you for the long run?  Who will care no matter what.  Not somebody who flits in your life and is out in the next few months or year.  Who except G-d knows the true character of a strange man.  My prayer for you was that someone would appear whom you have not met yet.  Otherwise, some would say 'oh, she knew that guy from PF or somewhere else already.'  So...according to your words and wishes - since they override mine if you do not want help.  But, if you do want help - consider the prayer made for you.

And, Thal, what about James 4:3?  I suppose you may say to me - but, what about db05.  Isn't she asking for the same thing?  But, notice - she did not ask about the size of her man's *** - so this can mean that she is open to much more than 'pleasures.'  You know, you can buy women with any size breasts.  But, a gift of a naturally blond woman with any size breasts but personality and interests that are compatible with your life might be a better prayer.  Sorry to modify yours, but if you happen to have it answered with the big bosom, too - it will be a bonus, ok.  Consider the prayer made.

I think I will make just one more request on Thal's to make it more specific.  Please make her have an unusual name.  Something really unusual.  So that Thal will be mystified and petrified at the same time of how a beautiful blond can appear in the depths of wintry January as though from a dream.  However, in the meantime, is the other girlfriend gone now - or is this asking for twofer.  I'm not sure G-d wants that these days.  Can't pray for something you already have.

OK.  Three prayers.  Any more?  I'm certainly just as interested as you all in hearing what your sincere needs are - no matter how big or small.  Just no million dollar kinds of things.  Those are ponzi schemes, likely.  We are told to be content if we have what we need.  To me, love is a perfectly natural thing to need. If G-d knows we need it - then why not ask Him to be the matchmaker.  That's my frame of reference on the 'dictator' vs. 'helper.'

[pianistimo]

For any of you that think 'last minute' answer isn't true - take this strange phenomenon recently in my life.  OK.  My son is going to community college - but this spring needed to register for his full-time coursework again without the benefit yet of having confirmed any student loans or scholarships for spring 2009.  Today, without asking anyone - and especially my parents - my step-Dad calls up randomly and asks to talk to my son.  We were just about this morning to take out a student loan with Wells Fargo and had almost done the financial matter when he called.  He wants to make a better loan or deal than we could get with the bank, I think - and has not put any interest on it as far as i know.  I never told or asked my parents for the money and they haven't talked to my son in a while so they wouldn't know what was happening except that I said he was registering.  This is getting close to the time that things have to be done.  I consider this a real blessing and answer to prayer.

[cmg]

Saturday, 31st of January is the target date (giving a full 30 days).  You can choose to report on Sunday the first of February if you want.  Anyways, I look forward to these two prayers being answered and would gladly accept any more that come my way.  Just make sure and honestly say what has happened.  Please include if you kept up hope that your prayer would be answered. 

Thanks!  I'll check in with you on that date.  Happy New Year, p.

[thalbergmad]

But, a gift of a naturally blond woman with any size breasts but personality and interests that are compatible with your life might be a better prayer.  

OK, any size breasts will do, but she must be a good cook and screw like a rabbit.

Deal??

Thal

[pianistimo]

Cmg, maybe to make it a happier new year you should ask for one more thing.  Something relatively simple - but something needed.  And, yes - I wish you a happy new year!  And, many more - as they say with birthdays.

Thal, this isn't 'let's make a deal.'  It's not a deal.  It's a prayer.  A deal is where you say 'ok,  G-d - I'll do this IF you do that.'  But, if you want to make it into a deal - we can say that you may believe G-d exists to the extent that she wants to 'screw like a rabbit' if i can say it like that on this pf.  I suppose it may seem funny, but isn't that the dream of most men.  If it is a dream, then it is much higher likely that you will consider it a miracle of miracles.  I mean...on the one hand just getting a blond woman might be feat.  Then, a blond woman who might like piano music.  But, one that wants the last thing - that's the icing on the cake, right?!  For all of this to happen in one month's time should be - well, nigh impossible to you right -although the last one might have to be verbal until you get married?!  Or is this something you find kind of easy to do on a regular basis?

Well, in any case - the prayers will be made according to form.  The cooking part sometimes comes along after a few meals are learned to be prepared. Otherwise you are nixing the age requirement.  Unless she is a truly unusual woman.  OK. I'll pray about the cooking but i can't make any certain guarantees on that one as i find it highly disbelieveable myself at the age of 23-25.  I was a decent cook at 28 or 30 - but cooking is a skill like piano and takes time.

Oh.  One last thing, she can't be bought.  That means - you can't make this miracle happen by putting out an ad in any newspaper, dating site, or internet.  She's not going to be a pricy call-girl and you'll have to marry her to find out the last detail.  That means that if you are resourceful, you will go out from your house at least once a day - somewhere besides work to improve your chances of seeing the person, being able to introduce yourself, and reappear again.  A bookstore might be an option.  But, to make this situation more interesting - I will pray that you see her at the bookstore and then in another completely different place for a total of 3 different places.  If that doesn't give you some reference for introducing yourself - I don't know what would.  The bookstore is observation, the second location introduction, the third location she'll say 'yes' to the date.

[thalbergmad]

OK. I'll pray about the cooking but i can't make any certain guarantees on that one as i find it highly disbelieveable myself at the age of 23-25. 

Look, if it is a problem, leave the cooking out but keep the high sex drive in as that is much more important.

As it happens, i am going to the bookshop tomorrow to see if they have got any more Jack the Ripper books, so perhaps when i am browsing i might get approached by some drop dead broad. She might say something like "Hi honey, who do you think the Ripper was", which would be a good ice breaker. I have some chat up lines that i have memorised in case of emegency...........

1. I miss my teddy bear, would you sleep with me?
2. I like maths. You want to go to my room, add the bed, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply?
3. I was just curious? Are you as good as all the guys say you are?

Now, i can handle things fine once we have met, but i leave it to you and God to make sure she is in Baggins Book Bazaar about 11am GMT.

Ta

Thalxx

[G.W.K]

1. I miss my teddy bear, would you sleep with me?
2. I like maths. You want to go to my room, add the bed, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply?
3. I was just curious? Are you as good as all the guys say you are?

That brought tears of laughter Thal. Have a Rep. point.

pianistimo: when you say that you are praying for members? What do you ask God for? What do you pray for?

G.W.K

[pianistimo]

Well, I forgot  you already said you believe in G-d -so this one is for belief in Jesus Christ - of whom prayers are said in His name.  In fact, if one forgets that important detail, you may as well not have said the prayer at all.  So, in the name of Jesus Christ -i implore you to just look around while in Baggins Book Store.  Please don't ruin your chances by speaking.  The speaking terms are having seen her in one location and then in a completely different location the second time.  Without following her.  This is a major request since it may be tempting to fulfill your own dream.  Of course, if you don't see her in the bookstore the first time around - your faith will likely slack a bit.  In fact, to  G-d, he may consider it a funny joke.

Don't give up.  Come back to the bookstore until you spot her.  Then, having done so in your mind without telling anyone but yourself and Jesus Christ, note her without speaking and leave.  Allow the second time to be the jaw-dropping proof.  When you introduce yourself  - make sure to get her name.  Something along the lines of 'Funny, i think i recently saw you at ____ bookstore.  Do you mind if I ask your name?'  If she only gives her first name, that's ok.  For then, it will be that you know several more details - her name and a better guesstimate on her age.

Typically, women don't care what men read - so I suggest you ask her what SHE bought in the bookstore.  It is likely to do less with sex and violence as Jack the Ripper.  To make a connection - you have to make every effort to be as observant as possible.  I suppose after doing the bird watching you have - this should be a piece of cake.

When you meet her the third time (no planning, mind you - otherwise this won't be an answer to prayer) - it would be in a separate third place.  To have this happen three times in one month should be enough to convince you that something out of the ordinary occurred.    

[pianistimo]

GWK, the prayers I said a were actually for any people who read about the 'gospel of the kingdom' and believed it.  After all, it's not my gospel anyways.  I prayed that they would be blessed by their belief and come to know Him (Jesus Christ) personally.  Then, I also said prayers for specific people that seemed to be caught in 'negativity.'  I prayed for positiveness in their life - and signs of His existence.  He is a G-d of love and wants good things for all people.

I am a firm believer in free-choice and yet, it seems the bible is somewhat vague in terms of 'destiny.'  G-d seems to have created it for every single human being - but we don't always fulfill our own destiny.  For instance, a prince may be supplanted.  Terms may change because someone else is more obedient.  Take for instance the parable of those who were invited to the wedding supper.  They were all somewhat content with their own lives and decided that if they wanted to come they would show up - but they didn't.  However, Jesus also stated that he would then invite the poor and those that were on the street to take the place of those who were initially invited.

So...i really think that is happening in our age especially.  Many people have experienced lately (first hand) losing their homes to weather related disasters, fires, whatever.  G-d has a purpose in drawing all people to Himself.  He doesn't want us to lose out on the most important thing in life - and therefore uses what would seem like to us 'desperate measures.'  But, if G-d doesn't need to use desperate measures - then it is us that are desperately in need of becoming more focused in our attention.  Perhaps he is using these measures to show us how much He loves each and every one.  No matter if you are rich/poor/fat/skinny/any race/sick/healthy/whatever! 

[G.W.K]

GWK, the prayers I said a were actually for any people who read about the 'gospel of the kingdom' and believed it.  After all, it's not my gospel anyways.  I prayed that they would be blessed by their belief and come to know Him (Jesus Christ) personally.  Then, I also said prayers for specific people that seemed to be caught in 'negativity.'  I prayed for positiveness in their life - and signs of His existence.  He is a G-d of love and wants good things for all people.

I am a firm believer in free-choice and yet, it seems the bible is somewhat vague in terms of 'destiny.'  G-d seems to have created it for every single human being - but we don't always fulfill our own destiny.  For instance, a prince may be supplanted.  Terms may change because someone else is more obedient.  Take for instance the parable of those who were invited to the wedding supper.  They were all somewhat content with their own lives and decided that if they wanted to come they would show up.  And, one decided to show up in clothes that were inappropriate.  However, Jesus also stated that he would then invite the poor and those that were on the street to take the place of those who were initially invited.

So...i really think that is happening in our age especially.  Many people have experienced lately (first hand) losing their homes to weather related disasters, fires, whatever.  G-d has a purpose in drawing all people to Himself.  He doesn't want us to lose out on the most important thing in life - and therefore uses what would seem like to us 'desperate measures.'  But, if G-d doesn't need to use desperate measures - then it is us that are desperately in need of becoming more focused in our attention.  Perhaps he is using these measures to show us how much He loves each and every one.  No matter if you are rich/poor/fat/skinny/any race/sick/healthy/whatever! 

OK Pianistimo: I ask you pray for me to then. Pray for: "specific people that seemed to be caught in 'negativity.'  I prayed for positiveness in their life - and signs of His existence." and if I recieve anything divine (I don't know how God "comes into people's lives"), I will never say another word against religion or God in the entire time I live.

G.W.K

[pianistimo]

I'm really happy to pray that - and I don't doubt you will experience something divinely inspired in your life this month, too.  Don't forget your bargain.  After all, we're just human.  Maybe it would be better to just be content to follow Him along and just take your time getting to a solid place with your faith.  However, Paul was very gung-ho, too and never really swerved after he met his maker on the road to Damascus.

[G.W.K]

Don't forget your bargain.  After all, we're just human.

I won't forget our bargin. If I experience anything divine/holy during this year, I will cease disagreeing with your religious talk and the fact that God doesn't exist. Until then: I am still the same.

G.W.K

[pianistimo]

Why did you change the terms to a year.  Keep it down to a month and you're more likely to believe.  A year is a very long time. 

[G.W.K]

Why did you change the terms to a year.  Keep it down to a month and you're more likely to believe.  A year is a very long time. 

I never declared a time length until my last post, but very well: I will keep it down to a month. Can you give me some idea of what I might expect?

G.W.K

[thalbergmad]

Can you give me some idea of what I might expect?

Yeh, fu** all.

Thal

PS But perhaps not

[G.W.K]

Yeh, fu** all.

Thal

PS But perhaps not

LOL, that is what I expect. However, if Susan and God can prove me wrong...

G.W.K

[aslanov]

Some sites - such as one in wikipedia under 'total solar eclipse' mention *need source citation   when they say TOTAL eclipses of the sun happen frequently.  They were, in history quite infrequent.

However, I am wondering something else.  A total solar eclipse was said to occur in 1970 (the previous one in 1900) and yet another total eclipse was supposedly witnessed in Europe August 11, 1999.  That would make only 29 years between 1970 and 1999.  Now, August 1, 2008 there was another total eclipse of the sun.  And, that was only nine years after the last one.

So, even though this does not diminish the fact that the total solar eclipse that happened during Jesus crucifixion could not have happened during a full moon - scientifically - What is the phenomenon now causing Total Solar Eclipses to be closer and closer together (though they still happen on a NEW moon)?  Can this be scientifically explained?

Are the longest lasting total solar eclipses near the mid point of the earth (equator) and seen by the most people and therefore counted differently because of the corona and whatever? and how they appear?  I'm just wondering if the term 'total' solar eclipse has been changed to suit eclipses which are not 'total' in the sense of the suns rays being completely covered and the illumination is still visible.  In Jesus time - the total eclipse made the entire earth dark and it doesn't mention any visible light.

what a load of horseshit.

[morningstar]

Why did you change the terms to a year.  Keep it down to a month and you're more likely to believe.  A year is a very long time. 

If he is to have his belief cemented, maybe a year would be a better time frame for you to try to convert him lol. Good luck with it.

[db05]

A man is most certainly ordained for you - but he is the one searching for you at this moment and possibly during this month.  You must not DO anything to connect with anyone this entire month.  Not on the internet (excepting your regular chat), not calling, not doing anything but your regular studies.  If someone becomes interested in you as a possible person to date - I cannot expect that you would be married at the end of the month, but you could via prayer, know that G-d will connect you to this person without any of your own doing.

Seriously, did you read my first post?? You know I love my teacher... I spent 2 weeks of vacation clearing my mind, no studying and no pining especially. After that I wrote several sheets for him. How I truly feel, and what I've concluded. My whole philosophy is like Christianity gone backwards, yes, but it appears his beliefs are the same. He was the one who got me into self-improvement and inspired me in my music studies. I feel like, he's really the one for me. Never mind that he's my teacher. Never mind that he's as old as my parents. He's the one for me, I know it. Life without him wouldn't be worth living. Life with him would be heaven. I don't expect to live a normal married life with kids and all anyway...

And hey, I still believe in miracles. I shall give him the letter on the first day of classes. Maybe even a hug. I have nothing to lose.

btw, it's been a while, and I missed you, mommy! *hugs* 

Thalbergdad, I'd gladly knock on your door and ask for Christmas money and sheets.

[mrba1979]

Seriously, did you read my first post?? You know I love my teacher... I spent 2 weeks of vacation clearing my mind, no studying and no pining especially. After that I wrote several sheets for him. How I truly feel, and what I've concluded. My whole philosophy is like Christianity gone backwards, yes, but it appears his beliefs are the same. He was the one who got me into self-improvement and inspired me in my music studies. I feel like, he's really the one for me. Never mind that he's my teacher. Never mind that he's as old as my parents. He's the one for me, I know it. Life without him wouldn't be worth living. Life with him would be heaven. I don't expect to live a normal married life with kids and all anyway...

And hey, I still believe in miracles. I shall give him the letter on the first day of classes. Maybe even a hug. I have nothing to lose.

btw, it's been a while, and I missed you, mommy! *hugs* 

Thalbergdad, I'd gladly knock on your door and ask for Christmas money and sheets.

Listen do yourself a favor and make a compromise.  Graduate first then indulge in this fantasy.  If it is meant to be then a couple of years will not make a difference.  Two weeks is hardly time to think properly. It took me six months just to decided on the new TV I wanted.

[mrba1979]

I won't forget our bargin. If I experience anything divine/holy during this year

You will.

, I will cease disagreeing with your religious talk and the fact that God doesn't exist. )

G.W.K

You won't.

[db05]

If it is meant to be then a couple of years will not make a difference.  Two weeks is hardly time to think properly. It took me six months just to decided on the new TV I wanted.

This I understand a bit. Although I think 6 months on a tv is too much imo (I took 1 month to decide on a piano), life-changing decisions take time. Rest assured I had been thinking every waking moment of my life. The 2 weeks was the time I spent un-thinking. I need to take those retreats once in a while.

Listen do yourself a favor and make a compromise.  Graduate first then indulge in this fantasy.

But what's the point? I can live without devoting my life to piano or music. Do you know what I'm talking about? I don't want to do music a disservice by studying it halfheartedly.

Of course it's humanly impossible. That's why it's G-d's call. It would prove that G-d is above human limits.

[tds]

just wanna test:

God

God