Attractive PIANISTS!?!?!

[birba]

LITTLETUNE: The answer is YES!!!!  

BIRBA:  The answer is NO  

"YES!" to what?  Nickname or real name?

[birba]

myra hess

With all due respect to a formidable pianist, aren't we stretching things here a bit?

[49410enrique]

With all due respect to a formidable pianist, aren't we stretching things here a bit?

lol yeah probably, but at least these caught her on a good day, i was just trying to get the thread back on track a little, there was soooo much of topic chit chat (which is fine and all but there hadn't been a real attrative pianist addition in quite a number of posts so i was just trying to be productive )

[candlelightpiano]

"YES!" to what?  Nickname or real name?

BIRBA: Choo is part of my real Chinese name. In Malaysia, Chinese children are given two names at birth. Choo is one of mine. Choo Choo is a nickname that was given to me because I reminded someone of a rollin' and smokin' train!!!!!    

[49410enrique]

agnelle bundervoet

[candlelightpiano]

lol yeah probably, but at least these caught her on a good day, i was just trying to get the thread back on track a little, there was soooo much of topic chit chat (which is fine and all but there hadn't been a real attrative pianist addition in quite a number of posts so i was just trying to be productive )

Which was partly my fault for taking things ....off track!!  

[costicina]

Richter, one the greatest pianist of 20° century...
I find him so sexy.....

[birba]

There WAS something hot and sultry about his looks.  Someone told me once he was gay.

[costicina]

NOOOOO!!!!           

[candlelightpiano]

NOOOOO!!!!           

So was Rock Hudson! Hot and sultry and gay, I mean.

[49410enrique]

harriet cohen (was quite the man's lady, i.e. long list of famous lovers....)

i had no idea until a few minutes ago that she gave the world premiere of the ralph vaughn williams piano concerto and that it was written for her (which is interesting since we don't have direct evidence of hanky panky between them that i can find but lots of flirting and oochy cootchy chatter between them so i wonder....)

[costicina]

If I were a man, I would be happy to be in the list of her lovers....
What a refined, elegant beauty!!!!

[49410enrique]

natalia kartashova (my bad if i already mentioned her, don't quite recall if i did)

[costicina]

May be I'm just envious          .... but I don't find her so attractive

[49410enrique]

May be I'm just envious          .... but I don't find her so attractive

i think i just nominate these days if they look better in bikini than i do, ms kartashova certainly pull this little number off more than i ever could.

[costicina]

We have not had yet the pleasure to see you in bikini...at the piano, if possibile, please     

[pytheamateur]

Um... a three-day silence made me think whether the thread had been banned.



A worthy nominee I think.  

[costicina]

not my type...but not bad!!! Last but not least, he is a MALE!!!!

[49410enrique]

oksana kolesnikova

[49410enrique]

irina lankova

[49410enrique]

Emmanuelle Swiercz

[49410enrique]

marie novello

[birba]

oksana kolesnikova

NO; you have got to be kidding me.

[costicina]

        Ok, if you change the rules, i.e. also amateurish pianists are allowed,  I'll hire a pro photografer, will buy a dress with a tantalizing slit, will spend hours for the make-up, and will post a photo where I hug languidlyy my piano.... I swear I'll do it   

Marghe

[49410enrique]

        Ok, if you change the rules, i.e. also amateurish pianists are allowed,  I'll hire a pro photografer, will buy a dress with a tantalizing slit, will spend hours for the make-up, and will post a photo where I hug languidlyy my piano.... I swear I'll do it   

Marghe

i think it's her boots that did it for me.

i was saving this one but i thought it was too funny not to post.  i didn't make this, and really can't think of what would posses someone to do it but i think its super funny


lang lang

[tombowler]

I quite fancy Kathryn Stott and Alicia Keys (can I say that??)

Attractive pianist...My piano teacher!!!

[costicina]

i think it's her boots that did it for me.

i was saving this one but i thought it was too funny not to post.  i didn't make this, and really can't think of what would posses someone to do it but i think its super funny


lang lang

Now I know why  I couldn't completely agree with all Lang Lang detractors!!! that guy has something special about him....
Marg

[tombowler]

I've now got pianist envy!

[birba]

Now if we could just change the face...

[pytheamateur]

i think it's her boots that did it for me.

i was saving this one but i thought it was too funny not to post.  i didn't make this, and really can't think of what would posses someone to do it but i think its super funny


lang lang

Is the body Daniel Craig's?

[49410enrique]

Is the body Daniel Craig's?

no it's hugh jackman at bondi beach, i only know this becuase as a trainer with one foot in the physique enhancement world and since i tend to stay in 'beach shape'  for most of the year myself, i used to get tons of , "what do i need to do in order to looke like hugh jackman in this photo....", so i immediately knew who it was since i have had more conversations on what needs to be done to get into that kind of shape with clients than i care to count.  

lol still the photo is super funny.

[Bob]

What do you need to do to get in shape like that?

Get rid of body fat.  And exercise to bulk up a lot?  Exercise about four hours per day?

[49410enrique]

What do you need to do to get in shape like that?

Get rid of body fat.  And exercise to bulk up a lot?  Exercise about four hours per day?

bob i would be doing you a dis-service and pretty much lying to you with a side of BS if i said anything other than, that is a very complex question and truth be told the answer is really going to be different for just about everyboby.  things like chronological age, androgen status, adrenalcorticoid levels, sleep, insulin sensitivity, stress management, food tolerance, training age, current  fitness level, programing, are just the pre requisite info i would need before being able to even begin to talk about actual training and dietary methodologies.  even things like the season and how far north or south you are have an impact (i.e. access to regular direct strong sun exposure as this affects blood level of active vitamin d3 (1,25 di-hydroxycholecalciferol, which in turn will affect many of the aspects listed above).

the short answer that no one likes to hear?  you need to start out actually being hugh jackman.

as for simply being more trim and stronger with some more muscle, it's really the boring sh*t no one likes to focus on becuase it's damn unsexy, but i really is the most effective, a clean no nonsense diet high in protein and veggies, some fruit now and then, limit starchy carbs to meals right around the time you workout, moderate fat intake compsosed mainly of saturated and mono saturated fats and some omega 3 as little omega 6 as possible, 9 hours average sleep per night, manage stress, etc.  a simple strength and conditionign program around lifitng heavy weights a few times per week with some mild cardiovascualr activity here and there.  that  sort of thing.


enough sciency shinanigans. now back to the ap thread
Samantha Mariko Rhodes
,

 pianist, model, and blogger from Huntington Beach, California. She is currently studying piano performance at UCLA

[costicina]

bob i would be doing you a dis-service and pretty much lying to you with a side of BS if i said anything other than, that is a very complex question and truth be told the answer is really going to be different for just about everyboby.  things like chronological age, androgen status, adrenalcorticoid levels, sleep, insulin sensitivity, stress management, food tolerance, training age, current  fitness level, programing, are just the pre requisite info i would need before being able to even begin to talk about actual training and dietary methodologies.  even things like the season and how far north or south you are have an impact (i.e. access to regular direct strong sun exposure as this affects blood level of active vitamin d3 (1,25 di-hydroxycholecalciferol, which in turn will affect many of the aspects listed above).

the short answer that no one likes to hear?  you need to start out actually being hugh jackman.

as for simply being more trim and stronger with some more muscle, it's really the boring sh*t no one likes to focus on becuase it's damn unsexy, but i really is the most effective, a clean no nonsense diet high in protein and veggies, some fruit now and then, limit starchy carbs to meals right around the time you workout, moderate fat intake compsosed mainly of saturated and mono saturated fats and some omega 3 as little omega 6 as possible, 9 hours average sleep per night, manage stress, etc.  a simple strength and conditionign program around lifitng heavy weights a few times per week with some mild cardiovascualr activity here and there.  that  sort of thing.


enough sciency shinanigans. now back to the ap thread
Samantha Mariko Rhodes
,

 pianist, model, and blogger from Huntington Beach, California. She is currently studying piano performance at UCLA

I hope Samantha' skills at he piano are inversely proportional to her beauty: beautiful and brava is definitely TOO MUCH!!!      

BTW, Enrique, do you think a moderate body building training (of course accompained with stretching)  could be bad for piano playing? I mean, loss of flexibility, suppleness, etc.?

Marg

[birba]

Absolutely not.  I think there's a thread here, somewhere, discussing this.  Up until 2 years ago I was lifting weights 3 times a week at the gym.

[costicina]

So you are a brilliant pianist, a wonderful teacher...and have also a muscular body like the one in the Lang Lang edited photo???       
Bravo e bello: NON VALE!!!!!
Marg

[49410enrique]

Absolutely not.  I think there's a thread here, somewhere, discussing this.  Up until 2 years ago I was lifting weights 3 times a week at the gym.

@ costicina -> he's spot on.

i won't go into my treatise on all things stupid regarding the mythology surrounding muscular development but i will sucker punch the undying faulty logic that is  workout=muscle='muscle bound'=stiff unflexible schmuck who can't even scatch their backside....

i am actualy in argument FOR a more than mild fitness and bodybuilding approach to for musicians but we just need to be smart about certain things.
1.  we must pay super careful attention to strength and muscle imabalance, that is we must be very vigilent on working opposing and antagonist movements equally or counter to existing over use (so like for men, who love to do many bench pressing movements, they should be doing pull ups and rowing movements like crazy to make sure and develop the rear kinetic chain musculature enough that posture is maintained otherwise you get a tightness in the front from too much anterior work and this actually pulls the shoulders forward and down. a big no no that WILL affect your playing among other things.).

2. we must address the fact that we as pianists don't have the luxury of playing while standing, so when your are sitting for many hours per day (this includes when you sit for non piano too), this is a very unatural thing to do as far as how we are put together and our bodies just do not like it. you are essentially havingyour hips out of plane relative to the midline of the body BUT unlike a natural movement when this would be accompompanied by a lengthening of the hamstrings and a counter contraction of your quads, we have a bent leg at 90 degrees so the hamstring is in a shortened position  for a very long time, with little to no quad activation.  what happens over time is that a progressive shortening of the hamstring will begin to pull on the lower hips where they insert at the pelvis, this begin to shift the 'hip area' into an anterior til, and since the top end is connected to all sorts of goodies, i.e. your back muscle insert and attach in the upstairs area, it begins to pull on the lower back muscles. this is the classic cause of a lat of people with low back problems and why many of them injure themselves when they bend over to pick something up off the ground incorrectly (they attempt to lengthed an already length back muscle and since hams are tight, boom, pulled x,y,z). so we need to make sure and work MORE the hip and hamstring muscles to help counter act this tendency (i.e. lots of deadlifts, springting, squating, etc.).

3. we need to pay attention to hand and forearm health (this is a way long topic so i'll just leave it at that, i'll only say that from experience i make it a point not to go super uber heavy and deadlift more than 285 lbs or approx 130 kg close to a performance or too often as this will definately have some collateral tightness in the hands that can affect your playing but it is temporary.  and still there are ways to train heavy while keeping in mind our need to relaxed hands and arms)

4. i am not entirely conviced stretching is absolutely neccesary (but it can help some).  if you are working themuscles through a FULL range of motion and are addressing the balance issues i mentioned up top, flexibility will come on its own.-

i could go on and on but these are just some issues we can and need to address that actually make 'bodybuilding' good and necessary for our art.

also consider this thread.  at the end of the day we as performers should want to put our best selves in front of our audience, we're there for them, part of that enjoyable live performance is a complete package, composed confident, competant musical playing, and when possible look your best.  all things being equal, human nature is pretty much dominant and attractive and fit and musical is going to be more enjoyable vs frumpy/unattractive and flabby and musical. generally speaking of course.

typos be dammed i need some coffee before i get online, it's too early.

ok i'm off my soap box now. sorry for the book. the end.

[costicina]

Wow, Enrique, may I hire you as a personal trainer?  Mine is good, but you are a wellspring of learning in the fitness field.
I'm impressed (and thankful for your detailled and satisfaying reply).
Marg

[49410enrique]

Wow, Enrique, may I hire you as a personal trainer?   Mine is good, but you are a wellspring of learning in the fitness field.
I'm impressed (and thankful for your detailled and satisfaying reply).
Marg

sometimes i wonder how some people even get hired as trainers, most couldn't pass a basic anatomy exam, let alone properly and safely train clients, i hope for you you have one of the few good ones.  most of the time i see the trainers and pros where i workout and just shake my head and laugh.

i don't take clients anymore, i got tired of people not listening to me then getting upset that they were not getting the results they wanted.  i prefer to work with competitive athletes vs general people that just want to get in shape, and truth be told i just more concerned with my down development for now so i just focus on my training, my music, my studies....i still help friends now and then but it's case by case,rare, and i usually require some kind of audition.

btw if if your trainer has you doing stupid stuff on a bosu ball for 'core activation' tell them to stop it have you do something useful.  i thinking my pooh i flush down the toilet has more training common sense than the people who make poor clients suffer through such useless rubbish.

FAIL:


infinitely better for you in more ways than i can probably even explain

if your trainer does not have you do anything that even remotely looks like this,you should be having a conversation about why not,


if you end up needing to find some people with the right attitude and that probably know what they are doing i would probably start here:
https://www.crossfitsabina.com/

not sure how far from you though. not all of these places are good but mostly they are better overall than most of what is out there for the general public. if too far they are probably worth a phone call to see who they reccommend nearby

[49410enrique]

so maybe not an accomplished pianist but she has composed for the instrument too, i know she plays but can't remember where i read it (i think she does flute too).

eva green

[birba]

Isn't that eva what's-her-name from desperate housewives?!  Aren't we sort of wandering off the path here, now?    Not that I mind.  This thread has been hammered into the ground.

[49410enrique]

Isn't that eva what's-her-name from desperate housewives?!  Aren't we sort of wandering off the path here, now?    Not that I mind.  This thread has been hammered into the ground.

i've tried in futility to redirect to ap but it does tend to wander. i think you're thinking of another eva, eva green is french, the dh eva is of mexican origins

[costicina]

This is not off topic:



Lukas Geniusas, winner of the II prize at the last Chopin competition (https://en.chopin.nifc.pl/institute/). Very macho, huge hands, in the III stage he played one of the best Etude op 25 n 12 I've ever heard....
Anyway, Enrique's  replay is too intersting to drop the subject: we could changed it in: what can we do in  ordere to be attractive pianists like this or that guy/girl?      

Marg

[49410enrique]

This is not off topic:



Lukas Geniusas, winner of the II prize at the last Chopin competition (https://en.chopin.nifc.pl/institute/). Very macho, huge hands, in the III stage he played one of the best Etude op 25 n 12 I've ever heard....
Anyway, Enrique's  replay is too intersting to drop the subject: we could changed it in: what can we do in  ordere to be attractive pianists like this or that guy/girl?      

Marg

it's all good, so long as it's at least related, for a while the topic was hijacked and was more instant messager, off topic chatter, than anything else. it's bound to happen with big old long thread like this one i suppose.

[tombowler]

That one who plays at the Ritz Hotel in London is quite attractive, but I don't know her name sadly...

[Bob]

oksana kolesnikova

*Bob tries to check the piano out better.*  I wish she would get out of the way so we could get a better look at that piano.  And look at that leg... Two... No, no, it is three pedals.   Pearl... Pearl River?  Oh, nevermind then.   *Bob notes the coaster and how that will raise the piano up a little higher and possibly make pedalling a pain.*

[tombowler]

Just thought of Regina Spektor. Or Fiona Apple. Or that girl who sings 'you know I'd walk a thousand miles...' her name escapes me. There's someone over here called Lucie Silvas, but I don't know if she's very well known in the States. She did a ballady version of Metallicas Nothing Else matters for piano/vocal.

[unholeee]

the coasters are to stop the piano from running away. it will probably be hard to pedal on the account of her boots being 180 degrees from where they are currently. horrifying picture... is she wearing the key felt cover. my god. looks like she'd be more comfortable on top of the piano..

[49410enrique]

Mei Yi Foo




holy smokes the girl can play!

[Bob]

the coasters are to stop the piano from running away. it will probably be hard to pedal on the account of her boots being 180 degrees from where they are currently. horrifying picture... is she wearing the key felt cover. my god. looks like she'd be more comfortable on top of the piano..

Just turn the piano so the wheels are perpendicular to the force you'd push into it.  It can't roll then.