Name that Tune (Sheet Music Edition)

[horowitzian]

OK, a few more. I'll let you know that I have no idea who wrote the third one, or actually wrote it, rather. I have seen it attributed to Chopin as Nocturne Oubliée, but I somehow doubt it was Chopin. Perhaps an imitation by a student? I'm hoping someone can tell me. Anyone who wants the full score should let me know.

[jbmorel78]

OK, a few more. I'll let you know that I have no idea who wrote the third one, or actually wrote it, rather. I have seen it attributed to Chopin as Nocturne Oubliée, but I somehow doubt it was Chopin. Perhaps an imitation by a student? I'm hoping someone can tell me. Anyone who wants the full score should let me know.

no.2 = Bach passacaglia in c minor, transcribed from organ?

[horowitzian]

no.2 = Bach passacaglia in c minor, transcribed from organ?

That part is right but who is the transcriber/composer? Hint: Russian

The first one is a violin sonata, BTW.

[retrouvailles]

That part is right but who is the transcriber/composer? Hint: Russian

It's Catoire's transcription.

[horowitzian]

It's Catoire's transcription.

Exactly. Any clues on the other two?

[retrouvailles]

No clue about the violin sonata. Any hints?

[rob47]

here's some i was going to post a while ago

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5.

[retrouvailles]

No. 3 is obviously a theme and variations, and my guess would be Beethoven.

No. 4 is obviously a string quartet, and it has to be something French.

No. 5 is John Adams' Phrygian Gates.

The other ones look quite interesting.

[horowitzian]

No clue about the violin sonata. Any hints?

It is in one movement only.

[vviola]

Arnold Bax?

[horowitzian]

Arnold Bax?

No, it's Russian. Probably quite obscure to the majority of people (other than someone like retrouvailles!).

[retrouvailles]

Still looking up the violin sonata.

As for the Chopin Nocturne oubliée, it looks like Chopin to me, after seeing a complete score. I really don't think it could be any of his contemporaries.

[horowitzian]

Still looking up the violin sonata.

As for the Chopin Nocturne oubliée, it looks like Chopin to me, after seeing a complete score. I really don't think it could be any of his contemporaries.

Thanks on the nocturne. Is it possibly a work of juvenilia? It seems to me that the unmodified repetition of the themes is very immature; certainly not a feature of Chopin's mature nocturnes.

[vviola]

Well, I've searched Google, Google books, JSTOR, Oxford Music Online, Oxford History of Western Music, and still can't find anything about this nocturne. Where did you find it?

Another guess for the first: Nikolai Roslavets?

[horowitzian]

Well, I've searched Google, Google books, JSTOR, Oxford Music Online, Oxford History of Western Music, and still can't find anything about this nocturne. Where did you find it?

Another guess for the first: Nikolai Roslavets?

There was a discussion about it a long time ago at Piano World. A member there sent me the score. As I recall, information was pretty spotty then, too.

Very good guess! However, it is wrong. Another clue: the composer had French heritage despite being Russian.

[edit] Here's the thread about the nocturne. 

[vviola]

I saw that! It was actually one of the first hits when I searched "Nocturne oublié".

[retrouvailles]

Very good guess! However, it is wrong. Another clue: the composer had French heritage despite being Russian.

Catoire again! It's his Violin Sonata No. 2. Wow, this was way off the beaten path. All I needed was that hint and then a few clicks on IMSLP to figure it out. I don't think I've even heard a recording of this piece before.

[horowitzian]

Catoire again! It's his Violin Sonata No. 2. Wow, this was way off the beaten path. All I needed was that hint and then a few clicks on IMSLP to figure it out. I don't think I've even heard a recording of this piece before.

You got! I've never heard a recording either; it just happens to be in my rather massive pdf collection.

[rob47]

clues for mine

1. Blues inspired

2. pronouncing this composer's name incorrectly could be very offensive

3. retrouvailles was correct in it being a set of classical variations but it's not by Beethoven

4.  indeed it is a french string quartet

5. John Adams - Phrygian Gates is correct

[retrouvailles]

I'm stumped for the first one and the fourth one. Is the second one also French? And is the third by Mozart?

[joe wallace]

No.1:
Barber: No.2 from Excursions, Op.20

No.3:
Mozart: Variations on Gluck's 'Unser Dummer Pöbel Meint', K.455

No.4:
Ravel: String Quartet in F Major, Mov.2

[thalbergmad]

At least one of us here has played this and one would expect another to be familier with it.

Thal

[mephisto]

At least one of us here has played this and one would expect another to be familier with it.

Thal

I am thinking loudly:

A piece from the 20th century. Aprox 1950 but could be anything from between 1910-1950.
Composer from an east-european country. Maybe folk music inspired.
A piece fro two pianos.

[thalbergmad]

Yes, yes, no, yes, no.

Thal

[mephisto]

Yes, yes, no, yes, no.

Thal

Ok, so that's not so bad. Can't remember ever having seen that score before. Care to give some info?

[thalbergmad]

He lived in South Africa for many years, but was not born there.

Thal

[ahinton]

He lived in South Africa for many years, but was not born there.

No, indeed; he was born in that land whose citizens you have been known on occasion to accuse of bleeding the poor long-suffering English taxpayer, I think.

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

It seems you know who it is but have not actually named him or the composition.

Thal

[ahinton]

It seems you know who it is but have not actually named him or the composition.

That is almost certainly the case on both counts, my reticence as to the specifics thereof being motivated merely by my idle curiosity as to whether anyone else here will get it and/or how long may elapse until someone does.

As a clue - the last letter of the composer's forename is the only letter in his entire name not present in the sentence above.

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Hmm, i have seen his name written as Erik & Eric.

I thought Mr Black would have known this piece since he has played it. Perhaps he has not visited this thread.

Thal

[ahinton]

Hmm, i have seen his name written as Erik & Eric.

The former is correct.

I thought Mr Black would have known this piece since he has played it. Perhaps he has not visited this thread.

I daresay he does, so I daresay he hasn't.

Best,

Alistair

[richard black]

Ah, I see you've dropped me some clues, thanks! Actually to say I've played the piece is literally true, but it was pretty much a sight-reading hack-through with a few friends listening in, hardly what you would call a performance - and I was playing the orchestra part. It was a few years ago, I've not seen the score since and I hardly recognise it even with the heavy hints. But it did seem vaguely familiar when I first looked....

Definitely Erik, though.

[mephisto]

What about telling us who the composer is?

And while you're at it, how do I upload a picture of a pdf? I would also like to post some sheets...

[ahinton]

What about telling us who the composer is?

OK - I'll do that for you; it's the Scottish composer, pianist, conductor, organist, teacher, author, lecturer, concert organiser and promoter, academic and alleged consumer of too many fried potatoes Erik Chisholm (1904-65).

And while you're at it, how do I upload a picture of a pdf? I would also like to post some sheets...

Somone else here will have to do that but I'm sure that they will!

Best,

Alistair

[vviola]

[retrouvailles]

The first one is a reduction of the prelude to Wagner's Tristan and Isolde. Such a textbook excerpt. How could anyone miss this one?

[vviola]

Am I mistaken, or does the editor indicate for the performer to use his second or eighth finger on the D in image 3?

[perfect_pitch]

Am I mistaken, or does the editor indicate for the performer to use his second or eighth finger on the D in image 3?

2nd (or 3rd finger) in brackets - it's due to the poor quality of the scan.

[horowitzian]

Here's a few more things I found in my pdf collection. After this I'm out of ideas till I can get some more scores. 

[richard black]

Horowitzian's set, no. 2 - Chopin Grande Valse Brillante in E flat, transcribed by Godowsky.

vviola's set, no. 1 - do I get brownie points for identifying the transcriber as Felix Mottl?

[horowitzian]

Horowitzian's set, no. 2 - Chopin Grande Valse Brillante in E flat, transcribed by Godowsky.

vviola's set, no. 1 - do I get brownie points for identifying the transcriber as Felix Mottl?

Yep!

A clue for the first one: It is a fugue, but it's not Baroque.