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Offline chopinawesome

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Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
on: March 02, 2016, 03:27:56 AM
I am learning the revolutionary etude and would like to learn another chopin piece to go with it. I am thinking of:
Mazurka Op.17 no.4,Op.30 no.2,Op.50 no.3, or op.56 no.1
Waltz Op.34 no.3
 Nocturne Op.32 no.2 or Op.37 no.2
 
Beethoven Op 2/2
Chopin Op 20, maybe op 47/38
Debussy Etude 7
Grieg Op 16
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Offline bachopiev

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #1 on: March 02, 2016, 02:19:31 PM
Waltz Op. 34 No. 3 is a nice contrast to the Revolutionary Etude, though quite a bit easier. Perhaps you should consider Chopin's Ballade No. 3?

I hope I have been of assistance.
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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #2 on: March 02, 2016, 02:27:11 PM
i bought this score and really liked what he did w/ it. you can buy it from Supak's website, pairs well w the original as aback to back play on it

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #3 on: March 02, 2016, 03:19:33 PM
Waltz Op. 34 No. 3 is a nice contrast to the Revolutionary Etude, though quite a bit easier. Perhaps you should consider Chopin's Ballade No. 3?

I hope I have been of assistance.

Thanks, but Chopin's Ballade No.3 is above my level. I will consider Op.34 no.3.
Beethoven Op 2/2
Chopin Op 20, maybe op 47/38
Debussy Etude 7
Grieg Op 16
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Beethoven Waldstein
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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #4 on: March 02, 2016, 04:04:51 PM
You may want to play a mazurka. Definitely a nice contrast to the etudes.

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #5 on: March 02, 2016, 05:39:01 PM
I second the mazurka recommendation from chopinlover01.. Any of these three would go very well with it. :)

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #6 on: March 02, 2016, 06:32:06 PM
I think the mazurka op. 56 no. 3 is a good pick.
It's also in C minor, but it brings an entirely different side of the C minor Chopin than the etude. It's really a calm and mature piece, and it gives a good contrast to the etude's agitation and almost youth-like passion.
It also sounds great both as an "introduction" before the etude AND as a progressive "conclusion" you can play after it.

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #7 on: March 03, 2016, 01:34:40 AM
I can't view the 2nd and 3rd videos. ArthurRubinstein material is not available in my country.
BTW, I loved op.24 no.4. Is is approachable?
Beethoven Op 2/2
Chopin Op 20, maybe op 47/38
Debussy Etude 7
Grieg Op 16
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Beethoven Waldstein
Ravel Miroirs

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #8 on: March 03, 2016, 01:42:15 AM
Compared to the Revolutionary, it's a cakewalk. That said, no Chopin piece is really "easy", and there's lots of musical challenges to be conquered.

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #9 on: March 03, 2016, 08:22:34 AM
Prelude no.3 in G Major could be a nice technical preparation to the Revolutionary!
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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #10 on: March 03, 2016, 12:50:47 PM
No, too similar in terms of technique. Something more difficult for the right hand, perhaps
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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #11 on: March 03, 2016, 12:56:01 PM
What about the one that was actually meant to pair with it? You know, op. 10 no. 11!

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #12 on: March 03, 2016, 08:55:59 PM
What about the one that was actually meant to pair with it? You know, op. 10 no. 11!
What's you source on that?

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #13 on: March 03, 2016, 09:33:23 PM
What's you source on that?

Yes, what source?
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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #14 on: March 04, 2016, 02:39:09 PM
Yes, what source?
it appeared on the internet, by definition, it's absolute truth

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #15 on: March 04, 2016, 02:43:30 PM
it appeared on the internet, by definition, it's absolute truth

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #16 on: March 04, 2016, 04:02:55 PM
it appeared on the internet, by definition, it's absolute truth

lol go play maria you wanker

Yes, what source?
What's you source on that?

The ghost of Chopin. He always whispers the secrets of his genius right before I'm about to open pronhub. bloody crap timing he's got.

*pssst pssst* *look Milton look! Every single pair from 1-12 (except no.7 and no. 8 because fck me I'm Chopin) are major/minor relatives. Perhaps I had something in mind when I organized the entire set this way especially when you consider that the dates of composition would have yielded an entirely different order.*

Though I admit it would have been better for us all if he had written a letter or two about it.

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Just in case my humor doesn't get to you, I'd like to clarify that this is my way of saying that it's a conclusion i made based on my own insight. It would have been better to say "meant to pair (in my opinion)." I do not claim to have actually spoken to Chopin's ghost, nor do I believe in the supernatural.

And here you thought you had met a new brother, sorry Sayers.
 

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #17 on: March 04, 2016, 04:06:48 PM
lol go play maria you wanker

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lel, i might but am scared, i got no tennis skillz, she would crush me. if i played her, game over before the ball drops

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #18 on: March 04, 2016, 04:10:55 PM
yeah it would suck if your balls dropped wouldnt it


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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #19 on: March 04, 2016, 06:29:21 PM
For kicks and maybe a few chuckles, play Czerny 740-28. This piece is like 10-12's annoying little brother.  Or maybe the poor man's Revolutionary. lol

Check it out , it is one of my favorite Czerny pieces though. I find it humorous.
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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #20 on: March 04, 2016, 07:26:24 PM
For kicks and maybe a few chuckles, play Czerny 740-28. This piece is like 10-12's annoying little brother.  Or maybe the poor man's Revolutionary. lol

Check it out , it is one of my favorite Czerny pieces though. I find it humorous.

the schematic is a little bit too similar to chopin's 10 no. 12 for it to be a coincidence. might there be a chance that Chop's modeled his after Czerny's? Pretty cool piece. :O Looks very challenging...

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #21 on: March 04, 2016, 08:04:54 PM
the schematic is a little bit too similar to chopin's 10 no. 12 for it to be a coincidence. might there be a chance that Chop's modeled his after Czerny's? Pretty cool piece. :O Looks very challenging...
czerny was ubiquitous and his published works catalog is vast, the volume was incredible, it would be less likely for it to not has sparked fred's thoughts on that front.

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Re: Something to Go With Revolutionary Etude
Reply #22 on: March 04, 2016, 10:49:45 PM
I was curious about that as well like the both of you and tried to research a bit while ago and from the dates of publications and the ages of the composers (more tendency to be exposed and influenced by others) kind of tells me that it was  Chopin's revolutionary that came first. But  I may be wrong. But if I were to bet on it, and I would bet heavily, it would be that.
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