New riddle thread(1)

[bernhard]

Chopinisque asked for it…

(https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4093.msg74440.html#msg74440)

How to play:
 
1. Only pieces for piano solo, or pieces where the piano plays an important part (e.g. Piano concertos, piano trios, etc.)
 
2. Only mainstream repertory (no obscure composers, or pieces like Scarlatti sonatas whose number is 555 unless it is a well known sonata amongst the 555)
 
3. Only one question per player (A player can only ask another question after being answered)
 
4. Only questions that can be answered with "yes" or "no"
 
5. A player can at any moment in the game ask one and only one cryptic statement from the riddler by asking: “Can I please have a cryptic statement?”. The riddler can choose if his/her statement will concern the composer (if it has not been explicitly and correctly mentioned by name yet) or the piece.
 
3. Penalties:
 
a. Any player can ask as many questions as s/he wants, however if the player makes a guess about the composer's name, the name of the piece, or the opus number, after three “nos” s/he is out of the game (e.g. “is the piece Papillons”, “is the piece by Schumann” and “is the piece Moonlight sonata by Beethoven”, if wrong and asked by the same player would lead to him/her being excluded from the game. However if the player had asked: “is the name of the piece insect related”, “is the piece by someone who studied law in Leipzig” and “is the piece by a deaf composer whose title was chosen by his editor”, that is all right). So, as long as the name of the piece or of the composer is not mentioned in the question, no penalty results.
 
b. If the riddler gives the wrong answer to a guesser's question and therefore utterly confuses and misleads the guesser, the riddler will have to miss a round, that is, s/he must win two games before s/he is allowed to be the riddler again (and eat the erasers of their pencils...)

So I will start:

No one can quite figure out what the title of this piece refers to.

Go figure!

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[pianonut]

is it mit lebhaftigkeit?

[Floristan]

Is the composer German or Austrian?

[bernhard]

is it mit lebhaftigkeit?

No.

[1]

[bernhard]

Is the composer German or Austrian?

Neither.

[2]

[Glissando]

is it Hammerklavier?

[bernhard]

is it Hammerklavier?

er... since the composer is neither German nor Austrian I will have to say no. 

[3]

[pianonut]

is the composer french?

[bernhard]

is the composer french?

Well done! Indeed, s/he is.

[1]

[pianonut]

is it 'les tricoteuses' (knitters?)

[bernhard]

is it 'les tricoteuses' (knitters?)

No. 

Careful now. You have made two wrong guesses on the piece. A third one and you are out of the game. (Rule 3a). We don't want that , so I suggest more general questions.

[Glissando]

er... since the composer is neither German nor Austrian I will have to say no. 

[3]

duh.
Sorry, it's been a loooong day. 

[chopinisque]

Is the composer very careful with his respiration?

[pianonut]

can i please have a cryptic statement. (i do like this game and don't want out yet)

[lagin]

Is this French composer the same French composer that wrote "Sunken Cathedrals?"

[bernhard]

Is the composer very careful with his respiration?

Er... Not that I know off. In fact, his respiration has stopped for quite a while now.

[bernhard]

can i please have a cryptic statement. (i do like this game and don't want out yet)

Certainly.

"This is not the only piece by this composer with baffling titles. In fact most of his pieces for keyboard share this feature – which apparently was done on purpose (the composer asked to be forgiven). This particular piece moreover has two baffling titles."

[bernhard]

Is this French composer the same French composer that wrote "Sunken Cathedrals?"

Nope.

[jeff]

is the composer satie?

[calidris]

Gymnopédies by Erik Satie?

[bernhard]

is the composer satie?

No, the composer is not Satie.

And therefore, not the Gymnopedies either.

[chopinisque]

lol

That was funny.  Bernhard probably knows why.

Anyway... did the composer compose a set of seaside pieces?

[pianonut]

ok here's my last question:

is it 'les baricades misterieuses'

[calidris]

Does the composer's name make you think he was a holy man?

[amanfang]

Did the composer live in the Baroque era?

[bernhard]

ok here's my last question:

is it 'les baricades misterieuses'

No.

[bernhard]

Does the composer's name make you think he was a holy man?

I guess not.

However, the piece is in a recent DVD by (considered by some the greatest) Russian pianist of recent times, and this pianist does share his first name with a Pope.

(hey! A free cryptical statement, ain't I nice?)

[bernhard]

Did the composer live in the Baroque era?

A most definite yes!

[Vinteuil]

"le Tic-Toc-Choc" or "les Maillotins" by François Couperin ? 

[bernhard]

"le Tic-Toc-Choc" or "les Maillotins" by François Couperin ? 

Well done Vinteuil!

Your turn! Just make a cryptic statement and let the game start!

[Vinteuil]

Sorry, I had to read the rules. Maybe I wouldn't have answered if I had known them earlier 

Here is the statement :
The piece was composed in a language of mystic love

[calidris]

Is the composer Polish?

[Vinteuil]

Is the composer Polish?

No.

[rhapsody in orange]

This is interesting I shall join in the fun 
Is the composer from the romantic period?

[chopinisque]

Is the composer French?

[Vinteuil]

Is the composer from the romantic period?

No.

Is the composer French?

Yes, s/he is French. 

[rhapsody in orange]

Is the composer an impressionist?

[chopinisque]

Only the French would do something like mystic love...

Was he born before 1850?

[bernhard]

Is the composer female?

[Vinteuil]

Is the composer an impressionist?

No.

Was he born before 1850?

No.

Is the composer female?

No.

 

[rhapsody in orange]

Is the composer part of the group known as 'Les Six'?

[calidris]

Does his last name consist of two parts?

[Vinteuil]

Is the composer part of the group known as 'Les Six'?

No he isn't.

Does his last name consist of two parts?

No, but I'm curious to know who you were thinking of 

[calidris]

 

No, but I'm curious to know who you were thinking of

I was thinking of Saint Saëns but had no piece in mind yet.  However, I just checked his birthyear and he was born in 1835 so...  I would've been wrong anyway 

[calidris]

A new question :
Was he born in 1899?

[jeff]

does the composer's last name start with 'M'?

[pianonut]

is the composer francis poulenc?

[Vinteuil]

Was he born in 1899?

No.

does the composer's last name start with 'M'?

Yes !

is the composer francis poulenc?

Therefore... it's not Poulenc.

[jim_24601]

Olivier Messiaen, by any chance? (Or however you spell it, anyway )

[Vinteuil]

Olivier Messiaen, by any chance?

Yes it's by Messiaen. Now we know the name of the composer, but I'm a bit disappointed. I did not have to make any cryptic statement about him.