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[Floristan]

Is the composer royalty or related to royalty?

No.  Guys, we're not talking an obscure piece here.  I first heard it when I was 7.

[TheHammer]

Is it a transcription?

[SteinwayTony]

The King and the Charcoal Burner.

[Floristan]

Is it a transcription?

Yes, and frequently played in its transcribed form. 

[Floristan]

The King and the Charcoal Burner.

ROTFLMAO! 

[SteinwayTony]

I guess it was too obscure; strike two for me.

[SteinwayTony]

And for my final guess,

In the Hall of the Mountain King.




- Transcribed by Godowsky.

- Written by Grieg (Norway).

- Composer born after 1800.

[TheHammer]

How dare you SteinwayTony? That was my guess.  It must be correct. Arrghh.

On the other hand, it's my own fault... da** 

[Floristan]

Tony, you genius!  You're right!  Transcribed by Godowsky?  I didn't know that, but he transcribed a heck of a lot of stuff.  I thought for sure Grieg transcribed it himself (as Godowsky is not mentioned on any of the transcriptions I've found).

OK Tony.  You're turn!

[SteinwayTony]

Here's the next one:

Its composer enlisted the help of an unlikely assistant.

[shasta]

Here's the next one:
Its composer enlisted the help of an unlikely assistant.

Is it the Rach2, written as therapy at the prescription of Dr. Dahl?

or

Is it Mozart's G major piano concerto (K453), based on a tune that his beloved pet starling, "Fool", used to sing?

[SteinwayTony]

Is it the Rach2, written as therapy at the prescription of Dr. Dahl?

or

Is it Mozart's G major piano concerto (K453), based on a tune that his beloved pet starling, "Fool", used to sing?

Strike two.

But good guesses.

[Floristan]

Those are two good guesses, Shasta!  OK, I'll move this along a little:

Was this composition created between 1800 and 1914?

[SteinwayTony]

Those are two good guesses, Shasta!  OK, I'll move this along a little:

Was this composition created between 1800 and 1914?

Nope.

[rhapsody in orange]

Was the composer French?

[chopinisque]

Was the assistant a person or an animal?

[bernhard]

Scarlatti's "Cat Fugue"

[SteinwayTony]

Was the composer French?

No.

Was the assistant a person or an animal?

An animal.

Scarlatti's "Cat Fugue"

Yes.

[bernhard]

“Amongst forum members, EHpianist (Elena Hammel) should be able to figure this one out pretty fast”

[TheHammer]

Is it a piece for two pianos?

[bernhard]

Is it a piece for two pianos?

No, but you are warm.

[TheHammer]

Was the piece composed after 2000? (if I am right then this is very easy, if I am wrong, well, it could still be easy, but... I would be wrong)

[bernhard]

Was the piece composed after 2000? (if I am right then this is very easy, if I am wrong, well, it could still be easy, but... I would be wrong)

er... you are wrong.

The piece was not composed after 2000.

[anda]

is it a form with variations (despite the fact that the name does not suggest it)?

[bernhard]

is it a form with variations (despite the fact that the name does not suggest it)?

Hmmm... I don't think so. Although you could perhaps say that there is a unifying concept to it.

[xvimbi]

Is it a piece for four hands?

[bernhard]

Is it a piece for four hands?

Yes, well done.

[rhapsody in orange]

Was the composer born after 1800?

[bernhard]

Was the composer born after 1800?

Yes, most definitely.

[rhapsody in orange]

Was the composer born before 1900?

[xvimbi]

Yes, well done.

Which won't help me a lot, because I practically know nothing about this genre.  

But then, I get to learn something

OK, let's see, was the composer married to someone who is also well known in the music world?

[bernhard]

Was the composer born before 1900?

Yes, no doubt about it.

[bernhard]

Which won't help me a lot, because I practically know nothing about this genre.  

But then, I get to learn something

OK, let's see, was the composer married to someone who is also well known in the music world?

Probably at the time: she was the daughter of his conservatory professor (not quite the guy you were probably thinking about though)

[xvimbi]

Is the composer better known for a different genre than piano music?

[bernhard]

Is the composer better known for a different genre than piano music?

Yes, very much so.

[xvimbi]

Does the work consist of more than 11 parts?

[rhapsody in orange]

Is the 4 hand piece a transcription from an orchestral piece?

[bernhard]

Does the work consist of more than 11 parts?

Yes.

[bernhard]

Is the 4 hand piece a transcription from an orchestral piece?

No. It was originally written as a piano duet (4 hands), however, the composer did write an orchestral version of it later.

[chopinisque]

Does the composer's name start with a P?

If not, I'll ask for a cryptic statement.

[xvimbi]

These riddles are sometimes like children's games, don't you think? 

[anda]

xvimbi, you just took my post!  (that's cause i didn't know he married his former teacher's daughter - well, at least i learned something  )

[xvimbi]

xvimbi, you just took my post!  (that's cause i didn't know he married his former teacher's daughter - well, at least i learned something  )

Shssh, anda, while the others are still puzzling, let's play with soap bubbles (I love that! what's your favorite shampoo?) or my wooden horse (it's a bit rusty though, if one can say that about a WOODEN horse). Anybody got any trumpets and drums?
 

[rhapsody in orange]

Brahm's Hungarian dances?

[anda]

hey, man, you guessed it 1st, so it's your call. i'm just mad at myself for taking me so much to guess (cause i played this about 1 1/2 month ago!). but then again, what's got playing to do with the brain 

[xvimbi]

hey, man, you guessed it 1st, so it's your call. i'm just mad at myself for taking me so much to guess (cause i played this about 1 1/2 month ago!). but then again, what's got playing to do with the brain 

Well, so far everything fits with my guess, but perhaps there are other possibilities. Let's see what Bernhard has to say about our conversation.

[Floristan]

Hmmm.  Well, Brahms wasn't married.  So, was the composer from a Slavic country?

[anda]

So, was the composer from a Slavic country?

if we're talking about the same composer, he married a former student of his.

[bernhard]

These riddles are sometimes like children's games, don't you think? 

So, xvimbi, do youthink this is getting too unchalleging for you?

What shall we do now? Do you want to do the next one (I read before that you had little time for it now), or shall we continue to see if the others catch on?

Anyway, I am starting a new riddle thread just for the likes of you. Instead of a rule that demands only well-known composers and pieces, it must only have obscure/neglected composers/pieces:

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?topic=7728.new#new

 

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[bernhard]

Does the composer's name start with a P?

If not, I'll ask for a cryptic statement.

The composer name does not start with a P (neither does his surname)

Here is a cryptic statement: "xvimbi has already figured it out".