Tell me about your love life

[thalbergmad]

Oh i see. I can't stand Thai food it is horrid.

Thal

[pencilart3]

lol I'm so glad I'm not either of you

[thalbergmad]

lol I'm so glad I'm not either of you

The feeling is mutual.

You stick to your silly book of fairy tales and leave the ladies to me.

Thal

[pencilart3]

You stick to your silly book of fairy tales and leave the ladies to me.

Will do

I don't want your kind anyway

[ahinton]

Oh i see. I can't stand Thai food it is horrid.

Even having only ever eaten Thai food in Thailand, I regreat to have to admit that I cannot profess to have a great deal of enthusiasm for it myself.

Never having visited a Thai brothel, however, I am in no position to comment on that so will wisely refrain from attempting to do so.

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Never having visited a Thai brothel, however, I am in no position to comment on that so will wisely refrain from attempting to do so.

Well, if you are ever in Gravesend i will gladly take you to my local. It is something a man should experience.

Thal

[ahinton]

Well, if you are ever in Gravesend i will gladly take you to my local. It is something a man should experience.

Much as I appreciate the motivational kindness in your invitation, I really would rather pass up on a visit to that particular "local" if I do come to Gravesend; if, however, by your "local", you mean a hostelry where we could partake of some liquid refreshment and conversation, that would be a quite different matter!

Anyway, back to the thread topic (if indeed anyone really must...)

Best,

Alistair

[themeandvariation]

As a contrast to Thal's take on some of his "interactions" w/ women,
and being the month of valentines, here is a poem about romantic love from another angle:

you believe in coffee grounds,
tea-cup omens, gambler's chance:
i believe in your eye's dance.

you believe in fairy tales,
dreams and lucky days or ill:
i believe the lies you tell.

you believe in some vague God,
a special Saint who guards you here,
for so much sin, just so much prayer.

i believe in coloured hours
blue and rose, when your delights
are bared for me through sleepless nights.

in all that i believe, my faith
is so profound, so deep, so true,
that i can only live for you.

P. Verlaine

[thalbergmad]

Very nice, i will recite that to my ladies tomorrow.

Thal

[ahinton]

Very nice, i will recite that to my ladies tomorrow.

But in the original French, I sincerely hope!

The only problem here is that Paul's verses are clearly intended to refer to just one woman rather than "ladies", so woe beThaid you if one of them notices this and picks you up on it...

Best,

Alistair

[theholygideons]

But in the original French, I sincerely hope!

The only problem here is that Paul's verses are clearly intended to refer to just one woman rather than "ladies", so woe beThaid you if one of them notices this and picks you up on it...

Best,

Alistair

How ignorant of you, for he is the exception, whose superior genes are the envy of all women in this world. To be copulated by Mr. Thalbergmad is to have offspring with the greatest chance of survival. S u c k  h i s  d i c k   

[thalbergmad]

Indeed my genes are superior, but i have no intention of passing them on until i find the right woman.

Thal

[themeandvariation]

~

[ahinton]

How ignorant of you, for he is the exception, whose superior genes are the envy of all women in this world.

If by "he" you refer to Thal rather than Paul Verlaine (and your use of the present tense suggests that this is indeed the case), not only do you invite possible curiosity as to how you would know such a thing, it is hardly the point even if true, given that Verlaine's verses do not refer to anything of the kind.

To be copulated by Mr. Thalbergmad is to have offspring with the greatest chance of survival.

Again, how would you know? On what do you base your evidence and where did you source it?

In any event, I would be rather surprised if the intended outcome of Thal's visit to his "local" would be the offspring, irrespective of chances of survival.

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

Indeed my genes are superior, but i have no intention of passing them on until i find the right woman.

Very wise, no doubt and your personal prerogative in any case, although I do not imagine that your forthcoming visit to your Thai "local" would likely be for such a purpose.

Best,

Alistair

[mjames]

The feeling is mutual.

You stick to your silly book of fairy tales and leave the ladies to me.

Thal

Pencilart is only 15. Give him some time, he'll come around.

[thalbergmad]

Time is of the essence. The quicker he is cured of the religion virus, the quicker he will be relieved of ignorance.

Thal

[ahinton]

Time is of the essence.

It often is.

The quicker he is cured of the religion virus

Assuming this to be an officially recognised medical condition, is there a cure?

the quicker he will be relieved of ignorance.

Or perhaps otherwise relieved, in the present context (not that it's any of my business, of course).

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

is there a cure?

Regular doses of Dawkins.

Thal

[gep]

Assuming this to be an officially recognised medical condition,

If a child keeps talking to and taking orders from an invisible friend, it is taken to a psyciatrist because there is something wrong. If an adult does the same, it's called religion and is not only totally normal but gets extra benifits and rights.

is there a cure?

Yes. If there is one thing all religions hate (with the possible exception of Jews), and the more fundamental the more they hate it, it is the consistend, persistend use of the brain. Oh, and facts. They cannot stand facts.

I read about new religions coming up based on such books as Lord of the Rings. They are described as 'myth-based religions'. Interesting word choice; the 'real' religions arent't myth-based then? I read also that you have 'religions' and 'myths'. Ancient Greek religions (for ex) was 'based on myths'.
I might add here that any set of live's rules based on, say again, LOTR, might be not too bad, considering fiction books still have to make some sense and logic in their narrative. As opposed to some 'holy' books (i.e books so full of murder, oppression, crime and bloodshed that they would be banned today if not religious) I might name. Consider Deuteronomy 13 as bed time story: https://www.biblestudytools.com/deuteronomy/13.html. You'd think IS got their ideas there, although they would probably crucify you for suggesting it....

That said, there are those who are quite religious about things like capitalism, politics, the 'multicultural society' as a practical and possible thing, and so on. Talking about 'myth-based'....

(I'm feeling a tad grumpy today; as you may notice...)

All best,
gep

[thalbergmad]

(I'm feeling a tad grumpy today; as you may notice...

You are hiding it well.

Astonishingly, i find myself in 100% agreement with your last post.

Thal

[ahinton]

Whilst I subsrcibe to no religions myself, I do not entirely endorse gep's view, sincerely held though it is as well as being the consequence of no small amount of thought. What bugs me is not religions per se as much as some of those who not merely subscribe to them but also slavishly accept everything that they tell them without due consideration of "the facts" and what we know and can discover. That the Christian religion in the West has given rise to so many tens of thousands of hours of wonderful music ought alone to suggest that it's not all bad news! The other bad thing is when behaviour of various anti-human kinds is conducted under the name of a religion, as we can see today from the widespread outright condemnation of many Muslims the world over of the behaviour of IS and various other so-called "Islamic" terrorist organisations (not that the Christians were much better in the days of the Crusades many centuries ago). Religion as something to substitute for reality and in which to function complacently and smugly is something for which I have no time whatsoever; religion as something with which to beat others over the heads invites nothing but contempt from me.

Anyway, all of that's rather a long way from anyone's "love life"...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

My love life went very well today thanks to the little blue pill.

Thal

[gep]

Whilst I subsrcibe to no religions myself, I do not entirely endorse gep's view, sincerely held though it is as well as being the consequence of no small amount of thought. What bugs me is not religions per se as much as some of those who not merely subscribe to them but also slavishly accept everything that they tell them without due consideration of "the facts" and what we know and can discover. That the Christian religion in the West has given rise to so many tens of thousands of hours of wonderful music ought alone to suggest that it's not all bad news! The other bad thing is when behaviour of various anti-human kinds is conducted under the name of a religion, as we can see today from the widespread outright condemnation of many Muslims the world over of the behaviour of IS and various other so-called "Islamic" terrorist organisations (not that the Christians were much better in the days of the Crusades many centuries ago). Religion as something to substitute for reality and in which to function complacently and smugly is something for which I have no time whatsoever; religion as something with which to beat others over the heads invites nothing but contempt from me.

Anyway, all of that's rather a long way from anyone's "love life"...

Best,

Alistair

Perhaps I should elucidate. When I say ‘religion’, I mean any system of belief (or thought) that tries to influence, regulate or steer how and what anyone (or everyone) should think or believe. Any individual that adheres to any belief-system might be called religious, but as such does not epitomise the religion he or she adheres to. One may only need to notice the various (often diametrical or even incongruous) differences between worshippers attending a single church. One may condemn pre- or extra-marital sex in the extreme (while possibly exercising it at the same, well, slightly later, time), another may not see all that bad in it, the next may advise against it but not condemn anyone doing different, etc.. So ‘Roman Catholic’ is a religion, but that does say much (or anything) about anyone who feels drawn to it, or is a member of it. Then there are quite a few people who are religious but no not adhere to any single system, or any system whatsoever.

Let me state four ‘rules of engagement’ is try my best to adhere to in life (with me being a orthodox atheist, I don’t have nor could have any morals, according to some).
1)   Each individual is basically absolutely equal to any other individual. What matters is how anyone behaves when it comes in dealing (in the widest sense of the word) with other humans.
2)   Each individual has an utterly, completely and unlimited freedom of conscience, viz, each individual is utterly free to think (believe) what he or she wants or does.
3)   Each individual is free to say what he wishes to say, only limited when it comes to curtailing, or endeavour to curtail, or call to curtail, in any way either 1) or 2) or 3) or 4) (see below).
4)   Each individual is free to do (i.e. live his or her life) in any way he or she wants to, only limited by curtailing in any way the same right of everybody else (hence act against either 1), 2), 3) or 4).
Extreme example. If you would ask me re 2): ‘imagine anyone being of the opinion all Jews should be eradicated, should he or she be free to have such an opinion, or voice it?’. Well, no matter how utterly horrendous I would find such an opinion, or how sick to the stomach it would make me feel to hear it: yes. I do not, cannot and want not to control the inside of anyone’s brain or thoughts. Moreover, silencing such a person would not make his or her thoughts go away (possibly it would only strengthen them). I can quite (or possibly not) imagine how insulting it might be to a Jew hearing such an opinion. I would find it insulting. But nobody own another person’s thoughts. If I were to claim the right to curb anyone’s thoughts, then what would I have to say against anyone willing to curb my thoughts (see 1))! Now the difference is when anyone with such an opinion calling to action. That would violate points 1) and 4). If someone like that would not wish to shake hands with a Jew (say at work) when meeting him, ditto. Because then it is about how you act in relation to someone. And that is bound to limits.

I can quite imagine people being quite angry or even insulted by my line of thinking here. And I’ll readily admit it takes some long and hard thoughts to get to grips with the above. I’m having difficulties at times adhering to those ‘rules’. Imagine – I’m rather too short for my weight – anyone stating, in a full canteen and at the top of his voice, how he gets nauseated by the sheer sight of my shape. Would that get to me? Yes, it would. However, I would then try to get to grips with points 2) and 3), and try to realise that such an action would say a great deal about the caller, but nothing about me, because the caller would value me based on how I look rather than what I am (or do). So when the steam in my head dissipates, I would try and realise that the person and his opinions have, for me, so little value that he would need to work very hard and long indeed to try and raise himself sufficiently to get on the bottom on the list of people I do not care about whatsoever. Oh, and quite possibly I might give him a piece of my mind regarding something he does in a way that might ‘tickle’ him, and see how he reacts to that (probably explosive), because after all I am human….

But returning to religion (remember: the system is what I mean). Have a look again at points 1) through 4). How many, if any, would agree to them? Despite the fact that within every religion there may well be quite some individuals who agree to them. I think one of the things the Age of Enlightenment has brought (since then, and only in part, I feel) about is exactly these four points. And such is the reason why, everywhere these points come more to the fore, religion (the system) wanes.

Alistair’s point about people slavishly following any religion of thought system is a very valid and important one. I fear it is even an increasingly valid and urgent one, since I feel that, increasingly, people are letting their thinking being done by others (‘follow the leader, latest fad, hype, ‘thrill’, gossip, whatever’) or other things (“it’s on the Internet!”) rather than taking the trouble to do their own. You only have to see the news to see and/or hear the latest ‘public uproar’ about this or nothing. The one things religions did in the past is at least do some channelizing; we live in an age where never before so much information has been so easily available to so many people. You’d think you’d get people who are getting smarter by the day, if not minute. But what you see is every reason to think that we’ve come a long way indeed  since crawling down from the trees. DOWN, that is. Please do tell me, exactly what is a brain for? Keeping the ears apart? Cooling the blood?

Religion (in part the system) does have some good things, yes; one need only to look at the works of art it brought about. Or, on another level, has made very many people selflessly help many other people in need or distress, often with danger to their own wellbeing, health or even life (the real charity therefor, not the public one). All that is regardless of which religion, and hence, I feel, not an integral part of religion (which is usually all for charity, assuming it be seen who gives, that due public gratefulness is returned, and that it is in control it gets only to the ‘right’ kind of people).

So no, I am not in any way against anyone believing (in) anything (or not). Although personal I do find it a tad arrogant to believe that an entity capable of creating the whole of this universe from a whim and wink is completely interested in any exceedingly ephemeral spark of – admittedly interesting – chemistry on a mote of dust in an utterly insignificant corner of that universe. But please anyone just believe what you want, or feel happy with, or find consolance in. Just don’t set up a system trying to forcibly inflict, regulate, pre- or proscribe any thoughts or believes in anyone, not even yourself. Argumentation, yes; force, no.

But since this thread is about ‘tell me about your lovelife’, I will briefly turn to that. Well, if you have read all the above, how many people do you think are capable of any steady sort of lovelife with me? Not even I myself… 

All best,
gep

[thalbergmad]

Wow, you Sorabjians do write some long posts.

Might i suggest you get yourself down to the local brothel and chill. Loads to choose from in your neck of the woods.

Thal

[gep]

Wow, you Sorabjians do write some long posts.

Might i suggest you get yourself down to the local brothel and chill. Loads to choose from in your neck of the woods.

Thal

Said the man with 15.000+ posts! And English is an ample language, after all... 

I bend to your knowledge about certain aspects of my 'neck of the woods', as you say (you'd be surpised about the amount of trees here!).
I personally have no interest in brothels whatsover, first because people try to screw me over at work enough at times, and secondly, as part of my schooling I worked at the lab of a nearby hospital, getting, about once a month, a box of swabs from 'patients' whose names were on the line of 'Lola' and nothing much more. Working these swabs was an education in itselfs, especially under a microscope.
Instead, I will endeavour to chill to Hans Rott's lonely symphony!

All best,
gep

[thalbergmad]

I think i am going to have a heart attack. Gep is listening to unsung romantics.

Thal

[ahinton]

I think i am going to have a heart attack. Gep is listening to unsung romantics.

If you knew all that gep listened to, you'd probably have had several of those by now; perhaps, therefore, it is as well that you don't, because none of us would wish that on you!

Best,

Alistair

[theholygideons]

My love life went very well today thanks to the little blue pill.

Thal

May I prescribe to you a daily dose of Asa Akira, 20 minutes a day. If that is not enough, perhaps a full dose of Brazzers every second day shall do the trick.

[ahinton]

May I prescribe to you a daily dose of Asa Akira, 20 minutes a day. If that is not enough, perhaps a full dose of Brazzers every second day shall do the trick.

Is your self-assumed rôle of general medical practitioner such as to qualify you to offer such "prescriptions"? especially given that what you refer to is neither yours to "prescribe" nor amenable to being taken orally (if you'll pardon the expression) as presumably is Thal's little blue pill (whatever that may be) and can not therefore bring about physiological changes of any kind in the ways that various medications might do.

I had to look up your two references before I was able to write the above paragraph, incidentally, since you clearly have vastly more knowledge of them that I (who had never previously heard of them).

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

I think Hinty needs a Nuru.

Thal

[josh93248]

This thread sure has taken some funny turns, first it was R4EVA's party, then we had the coda saga, both of which never resolved satisfactorily (don't they always?) Then it turned into a religion ranting session and now it's just sort of got no purpose but people are posting anyway. Oh, there has also been Thal's delightful Brothel interludes...

I must admit to being rather depressed by the PUA talk of one nigyerahiyazi (or however you spell it) the more I think about it the more I realise he must be right to some extent but I also know I would never want to play his game nor be with a girl who is susceptible to it. Alpha and Beta, what a *** shitty world we live in if you want to meet someone on any other basis than a lie or a bullshit made up person you created just to get laid... Incidentally, I would be curious to know an actual girl's views on the PUA perspective, does it hold some measure of validity and do you find it disgusting? (These are actually separate questions mind, I am disgusted by it yet feel it may hold a disconcerting level of validity...)

[ahinton]

I think Hinty needs a Nuru.

You're welcome to think, of course; it's a pretty harmless occupation and private, too.

Best,

Alistair

[themeandvariation]

Hey Josh,
I find your description - 'PUA' - not accurate in the slightest.
  "A pickup artist (commonly abbreviated PUA) is a person who practices finding, attracting, and seducing sexual partners. Such a person purportedly abides by a certain system deemed effective by that community in their attempts to seduce partners."

Seduction?  … lol…
A thug, banker, exhibitionist… lol

[josh93248]

Arguably Nigerasyaizisyaizi Or whatever is NOT a PUA however I said he was using PUA talk, terms like alpha and beta and chump are really associated with that group...... Or maybe I'm missing what you're saying Theme. But anyway, It's not an attitude I like partly because I just hate the idea of playing a game like that. Really my ideal partner would never respond to PUA tactics and approaches, she would like my awkward, genuine and honest self.

[themeandvariation]

Josh,
I assumed you were referring to Thal - lol

[josh93248]

Josh,
I assumed you were referring to Thal - lol

All good... Thal is sort of a PUA though... he just does it with cash haha.

[timothy42b]

Arguably Nigerasyaizisyaizi Or whatever is NOT a PUA however I said he was using PUA talk, terms like alpha and beta and chump are really associated with that group.....

The PUA has developed skills in making a quick connection, forming a relationship with another person.  It is done for nefarious purposes and results in an unequal exploitive connection.  However the skills are not necessarily that different from those needed to connect with a person honestly, and invaluable for some professions (counselor, cop, etc)  The argumentative Ny did not intend becoming a PUA but candidly admitted to some personal deficiencies in that area that he was trying to overcome. 

[pencilart3]

Well, Thal, all that I can say is that I am sure going to enjoy having sexual relations with my wife someday infinitely more than all of your disgusting practices combined.

[josh93248]

Well, Thal, all that I can say is that I am sure going to enjoy having sexual relations with my wife someday infinitely more than all of your disgusting practices combined.

I just don't know what to make of this post 

In a way it's almost cute haha

[outin]

Well, Thal, all that I can say is that I am sure going to enjoy having sexual relations with my wife someday infinitely more than all of your disgusting practices combined.

Good luck with that  



Nothing wrong with acting responsible though...

[ted]

My position on all this is that sex in itself is not essential to my happiness, whereas to love and be loved just might be. It has no connection with high or low moral ground, but it just seems to be the way I am made and I have therefore always acted accordingly.

[ahinton]

Well, Thal, all that I can say is that I am sure going to enjoy having sexual relations with my wife someday infinitely more than all of your disgusting practices combined.

Two issues here - firstly, the sheer prematurity with which you blithely assume that someone will marry you and, secondly, the notion of all of Thal's practices in combination, i.e. being carried out simultaneously (and one must presume that these include scanning obscure piano concerto scores and practising the banjo).

And if that is indeed "all that you can say", you do not appear to be capable of saying much!

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Well, Thal, all that I can say is that I am sure going to enjoy having sexual relations with my wife someday infinitely more than all of your disgusting practices combined.

I will continue to have a more fulfilling existence than any brain dead God Botherer that restricts his existence by adherence to a silly bronze age book of fables.

Please pass on my respects to your imaginary friend.

Thal

[ahinton]

I will continue to have a more fulfilling existence than any brain dead God Botherer that restricts his existence by adherence to a silly bronze age book of fables.

Whilst I not unnaturally hope that you do so, I do believe that there's rather more to the Bible (assuming that to be the book to which you refer) than mere "fables"; for one thing, it is an historical document, for all the flaws that one would have reason to expect from a multi-author work written over several generations in which its contributors various did not even collude. That said, the Bronze Age is reckoned to have ended around 800BC, so much of what is written about in the Bible, especially almost all of its New Testament, falls outside the Bronze Age as it covers more recent times.

Please pass on my respects to your imaginary friend.

In so asking, you are surely not suggesting that Jesus Christ was no more than a figment in anyone's imagination, are you?

Best,

Alistair

[theholygideons]

Whilst I not unnaturally hope that you do so, I do believe that there's rather more to the Bible (assuming that to be the book to which you refer) than mere "fables"; for one thing, it is an historical document, for all the flaws that one would have reason to expect from a multi-author work written over several generations in which its contributors various did not even collude. That said, the Bronze Age is reckoned to have ended around 800BC, so much of what is written about in the Bible, especially almost all of its New Testament, falls outside the Bronze Age as it covers more recent times.
In so asking, you are surely not suggesting that Jesus Christ was no more than a figment in anyone's imagination, are you?

Best,

Alistair

Do you not realize that Christianity is not a religion, but a cult which has completely consumed the world in darkness. The bible was written by good story tellers like you, who could spurt sh*t out of their mouths and make it sound plausibly didactic at the very best.

Thalberg can you send me pictures of the ladies at your local brothel? If they satisfy my tastes, I shall give it a try myself.

Best,

Pussy destroyer.

[ahinton]

Do you not realize that Christianity is not a religion, but a cult which has completely consumed the world in darkness.

Er - in a word, no, in which case perhaps you might care to explain how Christianity in all its forms "has completely consumed the world in darkness", not least because thee seems to be no evidence that it has done so (and I write this as a non-Christian, by the way). Whether or not you consider Christianity (or Islam, or Hindiusm, Sufism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism and the rest) to be a religion is a matter for you but, if you do not, you clearly place youself well at odds with most people who do see it as one, including atheists, agnostics and those who subscribe to other religions.

The bible was written by good story tellers like you

I'll accept that as graciously as I am able as a compliment to my music, since I am not a storyteller in words and it is hard to imagine that I have anything in common with those people who contributed to that book around two millennia ago.

who could spurt sh*t out of their mouths and make it sound plausibly didactic at the very best

I thought that the Bible as we know it was written down rather than passed down from generation to generation by word of mouth.

Thalberg can you send me pictures of the ladies at your local brothel? If they satisfy my tastes, I shall give it a try myself.

Do you live somewhere near Gravesend, then? - or are you prepared to travel there if need be?

Pussy destroyer.

I presume that you belong to (or perhaps have even founded) a cult intent upon murdering felines; how very pleasant! (not)...

Best,

Alistair

[pencilart3]

HAHA I knew that would do it! XD

I also find it interesting that I mention sex like it used to be and all you say is, "the Bible is stupid!" "Christianity is not a religion but a cult which has completely consumed the world in darkness."

what??

Nothing wrong with acting responsible though...

What a weird idea!!

[ahinton]

HAHA I knew that would do it! XD

You knew (that) what would do what, exactly? - and, subject to your answer to this, was whatever it was intended as some kind of predictable deliberate incitement to something?

I also find it interesting that I mention sex like it used to be

What do you mean "like it used to be"? Like it used to be where and when and what are the changes that you, especially at your age, appear to claim to having observed since bygone days before your time?

and all you say is, "the Bible is stupid!" "Christianity is not a religion but a cult which has completely consumed the world in darkness."

I do accept that this is rather like someone asking "what time is it?" and being answered "sunny with occasional showers"; the relevance of someone's alleged view of the Bible and of Christianity in the present context seems entirely absent.

Best,

Alistair

[timothy42b]

HAHA I knew that would do it! XD

I also find it interesting that I mention sex like it used to be

But, why do you think sex has changed?  There has always been sex, there has always been some variation on marriage, though a religious ceremony is fairly recent, as is the idea of a romantic love.  There is huge variation across cultures with some being much more open and some much more, ah, prudish. 

FWIW, the Bible says if a woman is raped in the city and she doesn't scream loudly enough for someone to hear, she is to be killed.  If she is raped in the country she doesn't have to scream, but she does have to marry her attacker.  I'm glad that part of sex has changed.