Project Shapety Shape

[Bob]

The rapture did come for me.  It took away five pounds.  Where they went are now, who knows? I'm all for that kind of rapture.  Fat rapture.

[m1469]

haha ... yeah, please, Santa Claus, come and rapture the h** outta my fat!

[m1469]

Today:

Workout:

Tricep:  25 lbs.  ♪♪♪


Foods:

Breaky:  Oatmeals  (300)
Lunch:   A salad and some BBQ chicken (300)
Snack:   FiberPlus bar  (130)
Snack:   Apple and a fruit roll (130)
Dinner:   Pasta w/chicken and a small salad (500)

Total:    1360

[m1469]

Today:

Workout:

Leg Curl: 35 lbs.  ♪♪♪
Bench:   90 lbs.  ♪♪♪ (getting ready to go up ... *almost*)
Squats:  120 lbs. ♪♪♪
Situps:   150/6 sets ♪♪♪♪ ♪


Food:

Breaky:  An egg on some pasta w/a little parmesan cheese  (300)
Lunch:   Salad and Apple w/PB  (350)
Snack:   FiberPlus bar (130)
Snack:   Banana (110) and FiberPlus bar (130)
Dinner:   Bagel w/ butter (450)

Total:   1470

[thalbergmad]

Today:

3 hours on Dohnanyi/Delibes transcription.

Calories burned about 300.

Thal

[ahinton]

Today:

3 hours on Dohnanyi/Delibes transcription.

Calories burned about 300.

Best dietary expenditure of calories any day! (must try it sometime - or at least might if only I played the instrument). How's it going? What was it - the Naila waltz? - the Valse Lente from Coppélia?...

Best,

Alistair

[Bob]

I believe the fat on my abs is rapturing away.

This makes perfect sense considering all the work I'm not doing to cause it.  I haven't really been thinking about it much but I'm losing weight.  Weird.  No extra exercise.  Haven't been too careful about what I'm eating, although I'm not eating unhealthy things.  It must be the sum total of everything that's built up.

[m1469]

I believe the fat on my abs is rapturing away.

That's awesome, Bob!  

I'm feeling partially raptured ... partially not raptured.  *ehem* "could use a little more rapturing here, please" ... BUT, I'll tell you what IS rapturing away, for sure, and that is bad habits in thought and action!  Still more to go.

Today:

Workout:

Tricep:  25 lbs. ♪♪♪

Food:

Breaky:  Pasta and an egg (300)
Lunch:  Apple w/PB and a small salad (300)
Snack:
Snack:
Dinner:  

[ahinton]

That's awesome, Bob!  

I'm feeling partially raptured ... partially not raptured.  *ehem* "could use a little more rapturing here, please" ... BUT, I'll tell you what IS rapturing away, for sure, and that is bad habits in thought and action!  Still more to go.

Today:

Workout:

Tricep:  25 lbs. ♪♪

Food:

Breaky:  Pasta and an egg (300)
Lunch:  Apple w/PB and a small salad (300)
Snack:
Snack:
Dinner:  

Well, m1469, I cannot help you out with rapturing, but I do wonder whether you really need to lay on the line every calorie that you consume and every bit of food that you eat. Just be m1469! What could be better for you than that? OK, go on a fitness régime if that makes you feel better (and, if it really does so, then great), but I'm almost beginning to wonder whether you are exercising your fingers in giving us all a blow-by-blow account of what you're going through more than you are when you're "working out"! Sadly, for me, "working out" merely means trying to solve compositional problems, so I'm almost certainly a lost cause here anyway - to which I'll openly admit right here.

Best,

Alistair

[m1469]

Ok, I will stop posting about it here, although I guess it's been helpful for me, and I guess I secretly thought that it's possible that somebody else, some secret reader, may need the information for themselves.  That's not beyond my imagination.  And, if there happens to be somebody who needs it, I think that's worth it.  There's tons to all of this for some people, whether you understand that or not!

I'm not sure why you insist that I'm not being myself.  I am.  But, I certainly don't expect everybody to understand that.

[ahinton]

Ok, I will stop posting about it here

You don't have to do that! I was merely wondering why you do so in such detail, but that's for you to decide...

although I guess it's been helpful for me

Well, that's good...

and I guess I secretly thought that it's possible that somebody else, some secret reader, may need the information for themselves

I suspect that it would be a case of each to their own - and no one solution works for everyone, as I'm sure you appreciate (and I'm not suggesting for a moment that you don't).

And, if there happens to be somebody who needs it, I think that's worth it.  There's tons to all of this for some people, whether you understand that or not!

I daresay - but, as I suggested, your régime may work for you but may not work in so many particulars for others.

I'm not sure why you insist that I'm not being myself.  I am.  But, I certainly don't expect everybody to understand that.

I'm not "insisting" on anything! As long as you are being yourself, that's fine.

I have an early start tomorrow, so I'm going to do a little exercise before retiring to bed; it involves some right wrist movements followed by a little right elbow flexing, using a small glass of Ménard très vieux Pineau des Charentes as the equivalent of the dumbell.

Santé!

Bonne nuit.

Best,

Alistair

[Bob]

You can pinpoint where you're taking in calories by writing writing everything down.  It gives more control.  More thought, decision-making.  Same idea as keeping a practice log.

My ab fat is still shrinking.  I can feel it. Bizarre.

[m1469]

Well, even though I've said that I haven't got it in me to bother explaining it, I think that in some ways I really already have.  But, to be more specific --not that you, Alistair, will necessarily understand it any better, I guess-- I have had no idea what a normal day of eating is "supposed" to look like!  And, while not everybody will be on a 1500 calorie diet from day to day (and I won't be forever), it suits me for many reasons for where I'm at right now.  The most important thing for me, though, has been that it includes everything I want it to and I don't feel deprived or anything like that.

For me, without counting calories, I actually have no idea how much I've eaten.  That might sound strange but it's utterly true.  On some days, if I had eaten an apple and a couple of other small things (like a handful of almonds and some raisins), I would think that maybe I couldn't eat any more because it's like my sense about it was warped and I really had no idea if that was a lot or a little.  While on other days, I would eat WAY more than I needed because of other reasons (or I thought that if I ate a few chips that meant I completely blew it anyway, so I'd give up).  Really, though, that stuff only scratches the surface.  You say to "just be myself' and I have said that I am.  And, it's difficult sometimes to know what is our own thinking vs. what is society's thought being imposed upon our own.

Anyway, I'm talking years upon years, since I was 12, of having major confusion over eating and body image.  And, I'm telling you, this is by far the best thing I have ever done for myself with that.  And, I guess I think that, aside from the fact that for some reason it's been helpful for me to have this thread, if there is somebody, especially a girl, who needs some kind of structure to her thinking about how to go about some of this, though what I am doing doesn't absolutely work for everybody, it is at least worthy of being AN example.

If I were to ever be an example to other ladies, young or other, I would want to be an example of a fit lady who accepts her body, who is strong and not afraid to be strong, who believes in various sorts of beauty, and who has a sensible concept of food and eating.  I don't want to just be yet another lady who is just wanting to be as skinny as possible and who's afraid to eat.

[m1469]

AND ... haha ... there are actually loads of people who want to actually know *exactly* what other people did to get into shape and lose weight, etc..  They want to know the menus and foods, they want to know the workouts, etc..  Maybe not you, Alistair, but there are people in the world like that!  Not JUST ladies, of course.  And, of course, not just ladies "struggle" with how to see their body and how to eat right, etc.  I know men with eating disorders, too (Which, btw, I am not suggesting I actively have anymore as I believe I have mostly overcome the acuteness of it).  Or, men who just want more clarity on it.  I'm of course not claiming to be a nutritionist nor a dietitian, I'm not claiming to know what's right for everybody and I KNOW that everybody has different needs, I'm just a person doing what I'm doing!

But, rest assured, I won't post about it here anymore.  OKAY?  I had thought that if other people were actually striving to get into *better* shape than what they already were, that we could actually share ideas, share menu ideas, share workout thoughts.  It's OK if other people aren't doing that, but just to clarify, I actually didn't intend this thread to be ALL about what only I was doing, but wasn't going to stop doing what I was doing just because other people weren't necessarily posting in the same ways.  

I have appreciated both Thal's and Bob's little interjections on that front (and other people who have posted various related things along the way), as well even as others who have casually mentioned something to me about their own activity, etc..  

[m1469]

If, for any reason, a person would like to continue in some way with this, you can find my newly created blog here and are welcome to it:

https://mayla-gettingfit.blogspot.com/

I do welcome comments there and am interested to know if you start your own blog if you would like to share that, as well!

[littletune]

Oh m1469, you'll stop posting here just because of Alistair?? Why does everyone always take him so seriously? I don't think he's so serious, I think he's kidding... in his way 

But I like your blog! I like the colours! It looks really nice!  (How do you create a blog like this?)

[thalbergmad]

Today I walked to the burger van.

Thal

[m1469]

Today I walked to the burger van.

Thal

Littletune, thanks .  I guess I don't know.  What I DO know is that I am actually beyond passionate about this and didn't even realize just how much until the last 24 hours.  If somebody has never struggled with eating and body image, more power to them.  Many people do, though (and many can't/won't admit it), and while being a certain weight and eating a certain way is certainly not *thee* most important thing in the Universe, I think there is enough 'to' getting it sorted out that it's worth consideration in our lives.  I happen to be in a time of sorting it out after years of sometimes extremely deep struggle over it.  The focus of what I am doing and why I have been posting is NOT to account "blow by blow" in "what I am going through."  It has been, I admit, a form of helping me to actually create the habits I have been very much needing, it's been a form of accountability, and in the end (especially as I've started seeing and feeling results), I've wanted to show what a big difference a few minor habit-changes can make in a person's life!  

While the bulk of what I am posting about regarding diet and workout is very surfacey, it has come from deep reflection upon personal/spiritual matters.  So, yes, we can make these small adjustments in our daily lives and they can bring about even huge results, but I don't know that I would be capable of doing even what I *am* doing if I wasn't also doing the work required beneath the surface.  

I guess I feel as passionately as I do because I know what it feels like to think I am completely alone and for the whole thing to be really confusing.  And, as it turns out  , I'm not entirely fond of some of the issues related to this surrounding society  , so there is an aspect of it, in my opinion, that is worth it being public.  

For now I'm happy to have actually started a blog because I guess I have more to express even than a thread in the context of a particular community will allow.  After I cool down a bit, I'll see what feels right to be posting about here, I guess.

One thing that I can note about it all is that stress seems to be at an all-time high around my household, and I find I am deeply *clinging* to my daily workout and dietary routines.  Which is HUGE for me.  Well, what is HUGE is that I am absolutely clinging to the healthful aspects of it, vs. the old ways.  THAT is what is a huge sign of success with this.

[thalbergmad]

HEHE, I'm a fatty but a happy fatty. The sound file is a masterpiece of songwriting (but i ain't posting that).

Thal

[m1469]

(How do you create a blog like this?)

Sorry, Littletune, I forgot in my last post about answering this!  It's really super easy, actually.  You just go to a blogging homepage (I'm sure there's lots, but I use blogger) and there's probably a button to press that says something like "Create a blog!" or such  .  The one I use is here:

https://www.blogger.com/home

Oh, PS -- Thal, I like your photo of Branston Baked Beans with Sausage 

[thalbergmad]

Baked beans with sausage is yummy & dougs likes it too.

No doubt Alistair is throwing up just thinking of trying it.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

Come on Dougs, tuck in.

Thal

[thinkgreenlovepiano]

Today I was doing a bio muscle lab testing for muscle fatigue that involved me counting the number of times I could lift a 10 lb weight in continuous 10 second intervals.
In the first ten seconds, I could lift the thing 10 times. From 90-100 s, I only did 3.
That probably means I'm out of shape, right, seeing as how everyone here can lift wayyyy more than 10 pounds!? Or at least my arms are out of shape... but I already knew that. I can probably do 5 push ups in a minute. 

[m1469]

I can probably do 5 push ups in a minute.  

Oh man, me and pushups are not exactly on friendly terms.  But, I'll tell you who is my *real* arch nemesis in the world of "fitness" ... it's that *utterly* STUPID, horrible "arm hang" that the girls were supposed to do while the guys did pullups.  My personal record was probably about 4 seconds.  Please, Santa, let me never depend on that particular ability to save my life!  I will certainly fall fast and straight into whatever jaws or plight would be below me!

Come on Dougs, tuck in.

Thal, I would actually like to join you and Dougs!  I like baked beans, except in the US I have never had it with sausages in it, but rather bacon.  Here they come with bacon in it as an option.  And, of course, people like to also put hot dogs in it ... especially for kids.  Dougs looks like he's really expecting to eat that .

[littletune]

Sorry, Littletune, I forgot in my last post about answering this!  It's really super easy, actually.  You just go to a blogging homepage (I'm sure there's lots, but I use blogger) and there's probably a button to press that says something like "Create a blog!" or such  .  The one I use is here:

https://www.blogger.com/home

Thanks m1469! I think maybe I'll try to create a blog too 

Thal, did Dougs eat that thing then?  Did he like it? well I sure wouldn't wanna eat that!!  but I guess that way there would be more for you and Dougs (if he likes it) 

[thalbergmad]

Dougs will eat anything that I eat.

We share a lot of meals, but I am not allowed anywhere near his bone.

Thal

[m1469]

I ate a sausage this morning ... but no beans  ... and no Dougs, of course!

[m1469]

Hey!  I'm doing push ups today!  No weight set where I'm at, well, not really anyway.  So, dry squats (no weights, just my body) and pushups and situps and tons of walking.  I'm sorry, I can't help posting about it here, too!  

[ahinton]

Baked beans with sausage is yummy & dougs likes it too.

No doubt Alistair is throwing up just thinking of trying it.

No. Neither, actually.

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

Oh m1469, you'll stop posting here just because of Alistair?? Why does everyone always take him so seriously? I don't think he's so serious, I think he's kidding... in his way 

I'm neither "kidding" nor expecting that m1469 will or need stop posting here as she has done so far on this subject; I have merely put forward my stance on it, with which anyone may disagee or agree as they so choose!

Best,

Alistair

[m1469]

I have merely put forward my stance on it,

Congratulations, I guess  .  

What you think, in particular, isn't *exactly* my concern.  But, more that in my own head I decided that you were the "forum elect" to tell stupid m1469 that she is being a fool by posting what I have been.  If that bothers me, I guess that's my problem, but I'm not going to shove one thing or another around in myself emotionally and intellectually just to prove to myself or anybody else that I'll do whatever I want, whenever I want, despite what other people think.  That starts becoming some game that I'm not entirely interested in playing, at least not if I feel it's a set up  .  What I feel I need to learn is more important, eventually, than me posting about here or not, however, posting had been something I enjoyed quite a bit and was helpful for me.  But, if I am just making some fool of the forum by doing so, then fine, I won't.  

You had decided it was fun to incorporate into this thread all sorts of other discussion, and even though I felt it had a purpose, like I was either supposed to say something or not, I ended up deciding that I actually didn't mind that there was at least *something* going on in the thread besides JUST what I had been posting.  I figured you would become bored with it eventually.

Anyway.

[ahinton]

Congratulations, I guess  .

No need, let me assure you!

What you think, in particular, isn't *exactly* my concern.  But, more that in my own head I decided that you were the "forum elect" to tell stupid m1469 that she is being a fool by posting what I have been.

I do not know why you decided that and do not in any sense recognise - still less would I have chosen to adopt - such a rôle. More importantly, however, I did not for one moment suggest that you were "stupid" or that you were a "fool " for posting as you did on this subject; nothing that I wrote was intended to provide either impression, nor do I believe for one moment that it does so.

If that bothers me, I guess that's my problem, but I'm not going to shove one thing or another around in myself emotionally and intellectually just to prove to myself or anybody else that I'll do whatever I want, whenever I want, despite what other people think.

Well, yes, I suppose that it is your problem, in theory at least, but only insofar as you have no need to "prove" anything of the kind.

That starts becoming some game that I'm not entirely interested in playing, at least not if I feel it's a set up  .

No one's asking or expecting you to play any games with this, nor are you being "set up".

What I feel I need to learn is more important, eventually, than me posting about here or not, however, posting had been something I enjoyed quite a bit and was helpful for me.  But, if I am just making some fool of the forum by doing so, then fine, I won't.

As I said, I m not suggesting that you have made ny kind of fool of yourself by so doing and the same goes for the forum in that I've not suggested that you've made a fool of that either, whether wilfully or unintentionally.

You had decided it was fun to incorporate into this thread all sorts of other discussion, and even though I felt it had a purpose, like I was either supposed to say something or not, I ended up deciding that I actually didn't mind that there was at least *something* going on in the thread besides JUST what I had been posting.  I figured you would become bored with it eventually.

I accept that the thread went off-topic on occasion and also that I did respond to some of the off-topic material, but that fact does not of itself undermine what you chose to write, nor does it in any other way draw attention away from it other than possibly during the course of such brief minor digressions themselves. I'm not quite sure what exactly you figured I would become bored with eventually, but no matter!

Perhaps I ought to be more interested in the subject myself, especially as I admit that I'm by no means as fit as I might be, but I suppose that I have to admit that my priorities are largely elsewhere, rightly or wrongly.

I hope that you understand the situation OK now!

Best,

Alistair

[m1469]

I hope that you understand the situation OK now!

Best,

Alistair

No, I can't say that I do, exactly.  How would I?  Do you understand my situation OK now?  In any event, I do appreciate your responding to my post  .

[ahinton]

No, I can't say that I do, exactly.  How would I?  Do you understand my situation OK now?  In any event, I do appreciate your responding to my post  .

That's OK - you're welcome - although I'm sorry that I still appear to be making myself insufficiently clear and do not know "how" you would come to understand what I wrote. I think that I already understood your situation reasonably well and had commented on your posts without seeking to undermine that situation. I have no problem with your dietary or exercise régime choices per se; why, indeed, would I? I was just rather surprised by the frequency with which you posted all details of what you ate, its calorific content and the particular exercises that you did on a daily basis but have never suggested that doing any of these is other than your personal prerogative, let alone that you shouldn't post such material here.

Best,

Alistair

[littletune]

... nithing that I wrote was intended to provide either impression, nor do I believe for one moment that it does so.

That's a funny word   

[ahinton]

That's a funny word   

Typos can on occasion be funny to some but I'm less than convincende that this particular example falls into that category...

Best,

Alistair

[littletune]

Hmm... does that mean you don't think it was funny?  Well sorry then... it seemed kinda funny to me 

Oh today I did 112 situps and 11 pushups... except I'm not sure if I'm doing pushups right, but I don't care 

[pianowolfi]

*tries to do a pushup*

*falls on the floor*

ouch.  *|*
           ~
      
I am not in shape I guess......at least regarding pushups. I think those I had to do at school have scared me away....maybe someday I'll give them another try...

(*plans bicycle ride for tomorrow*)

[countrymath]

I ate 2 bananas

[m1469]

I was just rather surprised by the frequency with which you posted all details of what you ate, its calorific content and the particular exercises that you did on a daily basis (...)

Best,

Alistair

The fact that you were "surprised" and ... I am assuming it was the kind of surprise like "What in the world is she going on about?  I don't get the point ..." vs. "wow, she's obviously committed to making a change, that's surprising"   ... means to me that you actually don't understand it.  Which, is fine.  But, I have felt as though you would ultimately like me to see that what I am doing is or at least seems silly (at least to you).  But, I *am* just being m1469!  

I have explained it quite a bit by now, but I think that you would still feel "surprised" (if that's what you want to call it) should I actually post in the same way that I was in this thread.  

In any event, the point is that we have to eat and function physically on a daily basis, whether we want to or not.  We have to make decisions about it.  Deciding not to decide or not to care is actually making a decision.  Aside from my confusion over issues surrounding it all, which I have adequately explained, I believe, part of my posting on a daily basis was that it reflected a decision I was making on a daily basis to make a change.  I was not merely posting what I was doing each day, but rather making a decision that I wanted to hold myself accountable for, because if I don't hold myself accountable, I won't make a change.  And, changing something requires a new habit, and posting daily *about* my new habits was part of forming that for me.  Again, though, I've already explained this at least in part.  So, yes, I am thinking that you just don't understand.

I used to be a part of a forum that was focused on losing weight, but it was part of the formal diet plan that I used to use.  

And, btw, I'm not at all suggesting that people should do the kinds of exercises that I am doing or that they should eat like I am eating (of course, I guess I've already said this,  too  ), I'm not suggesting that what I am doing is THEE way or the only way or even the best way for anybody!  (wth).  I am simply doing what I am doing because it works for me!  (again, wth).
 

[ahinton]

The fact that you were "surprised" and ... I am assuming it was the kind of surprise like "What in the world is she going on about?  I don't get the point ..." vs. "wow, she's obviously committed to making a change, that's surprising"   ... means to me that you actually don't understand it.

Then you shouldn perhaps think twice before assuming what you say you've assumed here!

Which, is fine.  But, I have felt as though you would ultimately like me to see that what I am doing is or at least seems silly (at least to you).

Then you should perhaps reconsider that feeling on the basis that I've never suggested that it was "silly".

But, I *am* just being m1469!

Fine, then! - and that's something that no one else can do as it should be done, after all...

I have explained it quite a bit by now, but I think that you would still feel "surprised" (if that's what you want to call it) should I actually post in the same way that I was in this thread.

Not any more, obviously; since you've done it as often as you have already, the surprise would have worn off well before now, as you may imagine...

In any event, the point is that we have to eat and function physically on a daily basis, whether we want to or not.  We have to make decisions about it.  Deciding not to decide or not to care is actually making a decision.  Aside from my confusion over issues surrounding it all, which I have adequately explained, I believe, part of my posting on a daily basis was that it reflected a decision I was making on a daily basis to make a change.  I was not merely posting what I was doing each day, but rather making a decision that I wanted to hold myself accountable for, because if I don't hold myself accountable, I won't make a change.  And, changing something requires a new habit, and posting daily *about* my new habits was part of forming that for me.  Again, though, I've already explained this at least in part.  So, yes, I am thinking that you just don't understand.

I get your point, of course. The problem is that, for anyone else, the dietary régime and exercise routines that might be suitable for each of them at any one time are likely to be different to those of your own personal choice as you have posted them here and, if sense and practicality is to prevail for anyone else, each of those things ought to be carried out under the general supervision of a clinical nutritionist and a physiotherapist or other like professional, because none of us has the same requirements or the same system to deal with or the same problems with which to contend.

So perhaps you can now bring yourself to revise your view that I don't understand!

I used to be a part of a forum that was focused on losing weight, but it was part of the formal diet plan that I used to use.  

And, btw, I'm not at all suggesting that people should do the kinds of exercises that I am doing or that they should eat like I am eating (of course, I guess I've already said this,  too  ), I'm not suggesting that what I am doing is THEE way or the only way or even the best way for anybody!  (wth).  I am simply doing what I am doing because it works for me!  (again, wth).

OK, but, as I've already suggested, that's fair enough as far as it goes - just as your reasons for doing it are yours and yours alone. You mention en passant above the aspect of what some people term "body image" and which seems to be a part of your general considerations about this and, perhaps, my own (undue?) lack of personal concern in such matters (given that I've long since ceased to believe that it's a matter of importance in relation to my own physique) might to some extent have influenced the surprise that I found in your frequent noting of detailed résumés of your dietary and exercise régimes; perhaps I'm wrong in this, but I guess that this is just too bad, really...

At least I'm endeavouring to take what you write seriously and I hope that you can accept that fact without undue difficulty!

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Giant curry, 2 x naan bread with 4 cans of Tetley best bitter.

Thal

[m1469]

The problem is that, for anyone else, the dietary régime and exercise routines that might be suitable for each of them at any one time are likely to be different to those of your own personal choice as you have posted them here and, if sense and practicality is to prevail for anyone else, each of those things ought to be carried out under the general supervision of a clinical nutritionist and a physiotherapist or other like professional, because none of us has the same requirements or the same system to deal with or the same problems with which to contend.

What does that have to do with anything I have posted at all?  Or, more directly, why do you feel the need to remind me of this every chance you get when I have already posted many times over my thoughts on that?

At least I'm endeavouring to take what you write seriously and I hope that you can accept that fact without undue difficulty!

Best,

Alistair

Despite the fact that I would actually love to believe you, I find it hard to believe since, despite the fact that for some reason you are bothering to spend any time at all in this thread and sometimes in direct response to me, it seems you are actually not truly reading particulars about what I write.  Except for the fact that you apparently happened to note that I had mentioned something about body image.  I'll give you a little treat for that  *gives Alistair a shrimp*  .

[ahinton]

What does that have to do with anything I have posted at all?  Or, more directly, why do you feel the need to remind me of this every chance you get when I have already posted many times over my thoughts on that?

What it seems (to me, at least) to have to do with it is that you're writing in great detail about what you're doing but it's not so obvious how that might help other people who might be wanting to try to achieve what you're achieving with your own dietary and exercise régime. Your use of "every chance you get" has come about merely as a result of asking about and discussing the rationale and purpose of your detailed postings, I think; I'd almost certainly not have gone around that one more than once otherwise.

Despite the fact that I would actually love to believe you, I find it hard to believe since, despite the fact that for some reason you are bothering to spend any time at all in this thread and sometimes in direct response to me, it seems you are actually not truly reading particulars about what I write.

Of course I've read all that you've written! I would not have commented on any of it if I hadn't...

Except for the fact that you apparently happened to note that I had mentioned something about body image.  I'll give you a little treat for that  *gives Alistair a shrimp*  .

As I wrote before, I've read all that you've written here, not just one thing, so there are no "exceptions". Thank you for the shrimp which I will enjoy once I've put it with some others and then thought how to prepare them...

Anyway, let's not fall out over squats, dumbells, leg curls, calories and the like just because they happen to preoccupy you far more than they do me!

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Too windy to go cycling this morning despite all the best of intentions and the air con is not working in the gym, so today it looks like my exercising will be nothing.

A couple of hours playing Boise should burn off a few hundred calories though.

Thal

[m1469]

What it seems (to me, at least) to have to do with it is that you're writing in great detail about what you're doing but it's not so obvious how that might help other people who might be wanting to try to achieve what you're achieving with your own dietary and exercise régime. Your use of "every chance you get" has come about merely as a result of asking about and discussing the rationale and purpose of your detailed postings, I think; I'd almost certainly not have gone around that one more than once otherwise.
Of course I've read all that you've written! I would not have commented on any of it if I hadn't...
As I wrote before, I've read all that you've written here, not just one thing, so there are no "exceptions". Thank you for the shrimp which I will enjoy once I've put it with some others and then thought how to prepare them...

Anyway, let's not fall out over squats, dumbells, leg curls, calories and the like just because they happen to preoccupy you far more than they do me!

Best,

Alistair

Hi Alistair, whatever I'm supposed to think or say in response to you I have no idea.  I feel like, at this point, there's simply some kind of intellectual hooping going on and I think it's probably best if I put that towards another endeavor.  Have your opinion, think your thoughts, post your posts, do your things.  Fine.  That doesn't mean I will or won't post here anymore but it has at least sufficiently removed me for now from what I was doing.  Congratulations or not, whichever applies.

In any event, I don't think we've "fallen out."

[m1469]

As it turns out, I immediately am deciding to post something different in this thread, which I admit *seems* to relate mostly to women, but is pertinent to this thread and anybody with some awareness in life, in my opinion, and very much worth a watch for performing artists (since it seems that female pianists these days are becoming something like models).  I guess I am just suddenly extremely passionate about all of this!

[Bob]

The "ugly" truth?  A lot of ugly people out there.



I don't think my ab fat got raptured.  I merely transported it forward in time about a week or so.


*Bob wonders what a woman/piano-object looks like.*

[m1469]

*Bob wonders what a woman/piano-object looks like.*

Well, probably just like a guy would look as a man/piano-object.  A big blob with a curve and a great smile.   :-

Hey, look, I actually don't even recognize this person in myself who would post something like that.  It's like a brand new side of myself!  

*mixed feelings*

[Bob]

Well, probably just like a guy would look as a man/piano-object.  A big blob with a curve and a great smile.   

Hey, look, I actually don't even recognize this person in myself who would post something like that.  It's like a brand new side of myself! 

*mixed feelings*

I remember seeing a piano with eyes and the keys as teeth somewhere...