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[costicina]

I whish you a great holiday in Spain, Oxy!
Today here there is a wonderful full moon and no wind. I'm going to take a swim before going to bed: it's a magical experience... 

[oxy60]

I whish you a great holiday in Spain, Oxy!
Today here there is a wonderful full moon and no wind. I'm going to take a swim before going to bed: it's a magical experience... 

Thank you! Glad you could see the full moon. Here on the West coast of California we are socked in with a cloud cover 24/7. At least it wasn't so low as to interfere with fireworks.

When we get there the Med will too cold for such adventures as you describe. We've done it in July and August in past years. Now we like to take a bottle of a sparkling adult beverage to the beach and toast the moon rise.

[49410enrique]

I whish you a great holiday in Spain, Oxy!
Today here there is a wonderful full moon and no wind. I'm going to take a swim before going to bed: it's a magical experience... 

there's a full moon everytime i shower. when swimming, if i dive and my shorts aren't tight enough. sometimes there wind. depends what i ate though.

[Bob]

Found another way to lose weight fairly easily.  I'm seeing it disappear again this week.

Yogurt.   Like salsa and chips.  I've been eating that for supper last week and this week.  As much as I want.  Although I'm getting tired of it now.  But it tastes good.  It's filling.  And must be a lot lower in calories.  Or something else is getting rid of fat. 

That and doing a little weight lifting but not too much really. 

[Bob]

Discovering the random spoiled yogurt is also a way to lose weight once you get grossed out by it.


Eating bread (carbs) doesn't appear to be a way to lose weight.

[j_menz]

there's a full moon everytime i shower. when swimming, if i dive and my shorts aren't tight enough. sometimes there wind. depends what i ate though.

I read that during lunch. 

Waaay more effective than any of the diet foods Bob's listed above.

I'm eagerly awaiting the first diet pill to target those pesky Higgs Bosons that are the cause of excess mass.

[costicina]

there's a full moon everytime i shower. when swimming, if i dive and my shorts aren't tight enough. sometimes there wind. depends what i ate though.

  You spoiled my poetical attempt... but you're too funny , it's impossibile  to be mad at you. Anyway, from now on, swimming at night I'll check for un-ortodox full moons around me 

[oxy60]

  You spoiled my poetical attempt... but you're too funny , it's impossibile  to be mad at you. Anyway, from now on, swimming at night I'll check for un-ortodox full moons around me 

It wasn't lost on me.

During the time of Franco the Guardia Civil would patrol the beaches looking for those very unorthodox full moons...

I now drink coffee with those once starry eyed young men, now old and disillusioned.

[costicina]

oxy, may I ask you how long did you live in Spain, and where? you seem to have had a very intense and eventful life...And how piano playing does fit in the picture? It's  off topic, I know, but sometimes this forum leads to free assoiations,like a session with a shrink...but much more funny!  :)k

[oxy60]

oxy, may I ask you how long did you live in Spain, and where? you seem to have had a very intense and eventful life...And how piano playing does fit in the picture? It's  off topic, I know, but sometimes this forum leads to free assoiations,like a session with a shrink...but much more funny!   :)k

Most people don't go back to the same place or stay very long. That method may give a lot of eye candy but no depth of experience. Because we go back to the same place we know which restaurants are good, and which night clubs are safe.  This is one (there are many) of those beach towns along the East coast of Spain some more Spanish than others. There is even one where Spanish is hardly spoken, an ex-pats paradise.

I am a university educated musician and can play a lot of instruments. Piano was my first and it can be played with earphones.

[costicina]

Most people don't go back to the same place or stay very long. That method may give a lot of eye candy but no depth of experience.

I couldn't agree more!!!!! There are some special places that became 'home' without losing their glamour and their power on us. I'm glad that Italy  was and  somehow remains dear to you

[oxy60]

I couldn't agree more!!!!! There are some special places that became 'home' without losing their glamour and their power on us. I'm glad that Italy  was and  somehow remains dear to you

Indeed it does. I was just the wrong age at the time. Being between relationships I was looking. In my age group at the time (40's) there were no single women. In the late 1970's Italy was very traditional and most women were married. My upstairs neighbor (an Italian) was in exactly the same boat. I spoke to a lot of guys in my age group all over Italy who were kicking themselves for not marrying their childhood sweetheart. Many were planning trips to their home villages in search of love. They wanted someone who spoke their dialect and could cook their food.

I am sure things are different now.

(Please excuse my vagueness. I don't want to drop names, places or personal situations. After listening to blowhards "bla, bla, big name, expensive destination, bla bla..." endlessly I decided that wasn't going to be me.)

[costicina]

Yes, things are a bit different now, at least as women are concerned....Most of the Italian males, on the contrary, are still 'mammoni', and have still many traits (the ones bad, mostly, but also the good ones) of the  stereotype of the 'maschio italiano' 

[oxy60]

Yes, things are a bit different now, at least as women are concerned....Most of the Italian males, on the contrary, are still 'mammoni', and have still many traits (the ones bad, mostly, but also the good ones) of the  stereotype of the 'maschio italiano' 

Then it was family marring family through two young lovers. If one was in the "hunt" without such to offer then you were out of luck.

[49410enrique]

one of the better motivational viddeos. the speech is pretty incredible and applies to so much more than training. the link in the description in yt lets you download an mp3 of. highly reccommend.

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[ahinton]

one of the better motivational viddeos. the speech is pretty incredible and applies to so much more than training. the link in the description in yt lets you download an mp3 of. highly reccommend.

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That would certainly motivate me. To switch it off. Pronto prontissimo! But then I'm just not into all this stuff. Sorry!

Best,

Alistair

[49410enrique]

That would certainly motivate me. To switch it off. Pronto prontissimo! But then I'm just not into all this stuff. Sorry!

Best,

Alistair

fair enough. different personalities tick differently. no hard feelings. i rather liked it but i also lived/live in the south and have heard my fair share of church sermons by some very  good black ministers so the style of speech was already pretty familiar and i've always liked certain aspects of the way these allegory devices are used.

oh well. i certainly appreciate your sharing a constrasting view/sentiment and reaction to it.
as my old chemistry professor used to say,
it take "alkynes" lol

(sorry it's cheesy organic chemistry pun/joke:)

[ahinton]

fair enough. different personalities tick differently. no hard feelings. i rather liked it but i also lived/live in the south and have heard my fair share of church sermons by some very  good black ministers so the style of speech was already pretty familiar and i've always liked certain aspects of the way these allegory devices are used.

oh well. i certainly appreciate your sharing a constrasting view/sentiment and reaction to it.
as my old chemistry professor used to say,
it take "alkynes" lol

(sorry it's cheesy organic chemistry pun/joke:)

Give me Alkan over "alkynes" any day! - and, if you're a pianist (which I'm not), you need to be pretty fit to play some of his work.

It's not only what you've posted above; I just don't buy (at least for myself) any of this obsessive exercise stuff for whatever reason it may be done by its advocates and followers. I'm not suggesting that I'm right about this - just that it doesn't do it for me. I do try to eat sensibly (with some success) and drink sensibly (probably with less success, although I'd not touch anything remotely resembling a beer-like product because I simply cannot stand any of them) and I do a small amount of mild exercise, so I try to value my general health as far as I am able, but the idea of having a personal trainer or attending the gym and "working out" and all that stuff just doesn't float my boat. My daily calorie intake is higher than it probably should be, despite my eating relatively healthily but, although it may be argued that I'm marginally overweight (by just a couple of kilos or so), my weight remains fairly constant. I couldn't possibly do some of the stuff talked about here - I'm neither fit nor flexible ewnough to do it - but then I don't have and cannot work up the motivation to do it anyway. Each to their own, I guess. m1469 would doubtless be dismayla - but it can't be helped...

Best,

Alistair

[costicina]

one of the better motivational viddeos and applies to so much more than training.

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It surely motivates ME  When I want something, no matter what, I always want it badly, and I'm ready to invest a crazy amount of time, efforts and determination to get it. But I'm very stubborn (stupid?)

[Bob]

I had a few teachers in college with the same speaking style and message.

I wish they had all the pieces though.  If you go after something but don't have everything in line you don't get the goal regardless of how much/hard you work.

[ahinton]

It surely motivates ME  When I want something, no matter what, I always want it badly, and I'm ready to invest a crazy amount of time, efforts and determination to get it. But I'm very stubborn (stupid?)

There's nothing inherently stupid in this! I just can't work up interest in it to get involved - that's all; I don't want to be neglectful of my health but, beyond that, I really don't care about this kind of thing. Obviously, you do! - which is fine.

Best,

Alistair

[49410enrique]

it's only the best way to super fitness ever!

[49410enrique]

oh man how inspiring is this ?!? love this video. i have no excuse not to move and keep moving!

you rock babuska! keep on keeping on!

[49410enrique]

love these things. i just wore out one of my first pairs (i have several, too many prolly lol). i need a new pair. the hunt begins....

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note. i will not get into  a pissing match over evolution ala the yt comments. i just posted a video i thought was cool that showcases a product i like and enjoy for health and performance. that's all.

[costicina]

I'm very intrigued by those shoes, but till now I couldn't find where to buy them here in Rome 

[49410enrique]

I'm very intrigued by those shoes, but till now I couldn't find where to buy them here in Rome  

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[costicina]

They will  be mine 

Thank you!!!!!!

[opus10no2]

Was a fattie, now a fittie 

[costicina]

  That's you, I mean your six-packs?
Please, be as magnanimous as our mr Muscle Enrique has always been, sharing with us your secret(s)!!!

[opus10no2]

Abs exercise, cardio, diet. Simple, just requires will power and consistency.

[Bob]

Much more difficult in reality. 

*Bob practices eatiddy eat.*

[49410enrique]

Abs exercise, cardio, diet. Simple, just requires will power and consistency.

true. very true. esp the will power part. and if someone tells you to eat eagle's eggs. don't believe them. i tried. it was a lie. they did not give me the power. i didn't get the nutrients.

i felt just like nacho.

[ted]

It says in the paper that in my country 60% are overweight and 30% obese. This disgusting statistic is good enough reason to bump this thread. At sixty-five I have again increased both aerobic and resistance training to at least an hour and a half a day, and feel better for it. What is everyone else doing ?

[rachmaninoff_forever]

It says in the paper that in my country 60% are overweight and 30% obese. This disgusting statistic is good enough reason to bump this thread. At sixty-five I have again increased both aerobic and resistance training to at least an hour and a half a day, and feel better for it. What is everyone else doing ?

America right?  Yeah, it's like 70% are overweight, and 30% of that 70% are obese.

I'm not doing anything...  Because I don't need to.

Well, I do like exercise, but that's out of my own enjoyment.

[ted]

I live in New Zealand, but we appear to be doing our best to follow the U.S.

[ted]

Another question. Powerade and similar - any good while training or just an expensive substitute for tap water ?

[thalbergmad]

Another question. Powerade and similar - any good while training or just an expensive substitute for tap water ?

I see people walk into the gym with bottles of sports drinks. They spend 10 minutes talking to girls, 10 minutes staring at the mirror and 10 minutes gentle rowing. They are wasting their money.

I have long since substituted water for sports drinks on my long cycle rides as I am told they replace electrolytes. I do not hit "the wall" so often nowadays.

Thal

[costicina]

Enrique is the best authority in these matters. As for me, I always drink only plain water...

[oxy60]

It depends on your tap water. Sometimes the chlorine is too intense or in some cases the water isn't even drinkable. I'm not too happy with the ingredients in those sports drinks.

[ahinton]

I see people walk into the gym with bottles of sports drinks. They spend 10 minutes talking to girls, 10 minutes staring at the mirror and 10 minutes gentle rowing. They are wasting their money.

I have long since substituted water for sports drinks on my long cycle rides as I am told they replace electrolytes. I do not hit "the wall" so often nowadays.

Thal

That's very sensible about the water, even though my knowledge of and concern for such matters of physical fitness is otherwise very sadly lacking.

The prospect of attending a gym is to me rather like that of attending a prison cell (not that I've ever yet done either); I cannot get my head around the idea and, although I know that I should take more care of such matters than I do, I find if impossible to do more on that front than try to eat as sensibly as possible and do a little gentle exercise now and then. To me, far too much of the gym attendance stuff seems to be predicated upon ego-trips about one's physical appearance and the relationship of that appearance to the possible opinions of others as to that appearance; I don't care about such matters and, in being so careless in such issues, I am reminded of the phenomenal 19th century English artist J M W Turner who painted a portrait of himself at age 18 on the basis that no one looking at it would ever suspect that this was the person who had painted the pictures that he did...

Best,

Alistair

[austinarg]

I actually want to start a diet, but it will have to wait until I move out and live alone, it's impossible to start a diet with my mother's food in the same house 

[j_menz]

I actually want to start a diet, but it will have to wait until I move out and live alone, it's impossible to start a diet with my mother's food in the same house 

You do know that even then, when you visit home, if you've lost like half a pound you'll get quizzed on whether you're eating and start receiving food parcels.

[austinarg]

You do know that even then, when you visit home, if you've lost like half a pound you'll get quizzed on whether you're eating and start receiving food parcels.

I'll have to make them last several days then 

[ted]

To me, far too much of the gym attendance stuff seems to be predicated upon ego-trips about one's physical appearance and the relationship of that appearance to the possible opinions of others as to that appearance; I don't care about such matters .....

That's how I see it too, coupled with the curious idea that the degree of fitness is somehow proportional to the amount of money spent on it, and the amount of money others observe being spent on it. The reason I train hard is because it provably makes me feel much better, no more than that; my appearance doesn't matter. Gyms to me are completely superfluous because I do not train for specialist sports which require complicated techniques, knowledge and equipment. In any case I am too tight to pay $1000 a year and there is also the bother of travel. All in all a totally negative prospect. 

[costicina]

  Ehm, I spend a lot of time in my gym, almost a session every day. I can't deny it's for vanity, but in a very larghe extent Ted is right, it makes me feel good in general, affects positively my mood. ..

[thalbergmad]

The prospect of attending a gym is to me rather like that of attending a prison cell (not that I've ever yet done either);

Having attended both I prefer the gym, but there is not a lot in it.

Thal

[costicina]

Clearly, you've never been in my gym...

[ahinton]

Having attended both I prefer the gym, but there is not a lot in it.

Assuming that you attended the latter in either a professional or a visiting capacity, I suppose there might not be a lot in it, although had you attended it in the other capacity there would be quite a difference, I suspect - not least because one pays to attend a gym whereas the poor long-suffering taxpayer funds visits to what are sometimes quaintly (or rather bizarrely) called places of Her Majesty's pleasure (which sounds almost as though QEII runs a chain of whorehouses).

Gyms are OK for some people, I suppose, although I cannot help but suspect that their principal benefit is for their owners and shareholders. I wouldn't go near one!

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

Clearly, you've never been in my gym...

Clearly he hasn't, but how does it differ from others, then?

Best,

Alistair