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Tchaikovsky: Piano Concerto 1 Op. 23 in B-flat Minor

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Peter Ilyitch Tchaikovsky :
Piano Concerto 1, Op. 23
Piano Concerto 1 Op. 23  in B-flat Minor by Tchaikovsky piano sheet music
Key: B-flat Minor Year: 1875
Level: 8+ Period: Late Romantic
piano sheet music Piano score: Scanned score (14377 kB)

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xx tchaikovsky's first piano concerto...please help !
August 01, 2004, 11:05:16 AM by Lilo


I've just begun Tchaikowsky's first piano concerto, and I'm wondering whether the first (piano) bass chord is 8va bassa or 8va alta ?

xx Rachmaninov Second Concerto Ripped off of Tchaikovsky First
April 25, 2006, 11:07:07 AM by michael_langlois

Has anyone heard this?  My piano teacher, a composer, suggested this idea to me while I was learning the Tchaikovsky.  He says that Rachmaninov even acknowledged that he stole his ideas for the Second Concerto from Tchaikovsky's first.  Is this true, or is it still within the realm of music being built off of other music over time?

xx Tchaikovsky piano concerto - first piano chords
May 22, 2006, 10:31:54 AM by jason2711

Hi, this isn't really a question about how to play it, more what to play.  Having just started learning this concerto I'm a little confused about the chords from bar 6 onwards.  Should the right hand part of the chord on the first beat be an octave lower as well (ie, just above the left hand, rather than more than an octave separating the two hands)?

Just a little ambigious to me, there are times such as bar 12, 13, 17-19 which would suggest it isn't played down, but it seems a little irregular...

Any help from those who know the answer to my dilemna would be greatly appreciated Smiley

xx Most "un-virtuosic" recording of Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto
September 11, 2006, 10:46:25 AM by bradley


I've been auditiong this piece alot, trying to perform it somewhere, but to no avail. I recently, however, saw a performance of it and was DISGUSTED at what the performer did  Sad She completely murdered it (I'm sure I actually saw the piano bleeding at one stage), I mean she even stood up for the 1st chord.

So I've decided to go to the other extreme and redo my interpretation. I want to sound completely different. Which recording is in your opinion "un-virtuosic", in the sense that the tempi are not excessively fast, no thumping, MUSICAL playing. The best I can come up with is the Richter recording on DGG...


xx The best interpretation of Tchaikovsky`s First Concerto and Rachmaninov`s Second
June 07, 2007, 09:29:15 AM by christiaan

Thcaikovsky: Richter, Argerich, Olga Kern, Pletnev...?

Rachmaninov: Richter, Kissin, Hough, Ashkenazy...?

xx Tchaikovsky piano concerto - your opinion please
March 19, 2008, 01:46:30 PM by franz_


Does anyone played this concerto here?
I have the impression that it is difficult, but technically not SO difficult, for sure if you compare it to other great romantic concertos. Am I right or wrong?

Any suggestions, ideas, difficulties,... on this concerto?

xx Re: Alexei Grynyuk - the Octave Marvel
July 15, 2008, 07:35:38 PM by c0nfused

Ok, I don't actually care about who is the fastest octave player in the world, but i saw this topic and Argerich immediately came to my mind. I don't know if she is any faster, maybe you should count notes in slow motion so that we can get the octaves per second rate.. Anyway here are 2 videos of her playing:

Tchaikovsky 3rd part octaves:

Liszt 1st concerto beginning:

xx Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto No 1 Manuscript
December 15, 2008, 08:26:38 PM by zyschqual


would anyone know if the manuscript of Tchaikovsky's Concerto No 1 was published sometime as a facsimile? Or if there are scans available? That would really make sense for the most popular concert in history.


xx Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto and Chopin g minor Ballade
August 11, 2009, 05:03:06 PM by mcdiddy1

Hi, I have just started learning there works and wanted to know you tips you have on learning them. I would also love to hear what experieces you had performing or learning these works.

xx Piano concertos: Rachmaninov Vs. Tchaikovsky
March 24, 2010, 09:47:31 AM by bluesyboy1

Ok now, I now that there in no "versus" as far as comparing these majestic composers. I was wondering however about the age-old question. I would like to ask the learned, perhaps preferably those who have played the concertos the following questions. Is Rachmaninov's 3rd piano more difficult pianistically than Tchaikovsky's first? Which has a more difficult keyboard work?

xx Tchaikovsky PC1 arpeggio
May 27, 2010, 05:44:25 PM by amr1980

The second arpeggio (d dim7) in the opening cadenza is giving me trouble.  I was trying to watch Weissenberg to analyze his technique and see how he executes it.  However, after watching it many times in slow motion, I just can't seem to see what fingering he's using.  In fact, it almost looks like he doesn't play the a-flat (!). 

I'm wondering if anybody will have any observations about his fingering, and what he's doing with that a-flat.  Indeed, I hear the a-flat, but I wonder if he just catches the edge of the key, or I'm just not seeing something.  For example, at 00:13 it seems like he just doesn't play it.  It seems like the most practical fingering is to have the thumb on d, but I'm not positive that's what he's doing.  Below is the original and a slowed down version.

Thank you.

xx Fingerings, Tchaikovsky Concerto 3rd movement.
August 20, 2010, 09:54:03 PM by franz_

Which fingerings do you guys use to play the opening theme of the third movement?
How do you play the jumps in thirds?


xx Tchaikovsky 1! Greedy?
August 28, 2010, 06:45:49 AM by pianorama

I've chosen Tchaikovsky's 1st piano concerto (the first movement) to play in a concerto competition, and frankly I don't know if my piano teacher will just laugh when I tell him of this plan of mine. Well, I know he won't (he's too cool for that ^^) but I am facing fear of the... hugeness of this piece. I did Grieg's piano concerto a little over a year ago, just the 1st movement also, which actually turned out quite well, but I mean whoaa Tchaikovsky is sort of on a whole other plane. I feel like such a little kid right now asking what you guys think but I'm wondering if anyone else thinks I'm being over ambitious. Right now I'm going for it and I plan on going for it, but I'm scared of not having enough time or ability to do a really awesome job. I just love it too much though, I can't help from having magnificent visions of myself on stage with orchestra and, and... *dreams*

xx Difficulty of Tchaikovsky's First Piano Concerto by Movement
April 10, 2011, 05:40:27 PM by davidjosepha

I've heard that Tchaikovsky's first piano concerto is extraordinarily difficult. I was wondering if that is every movement, or if one in particular is much more difficult, or anything. I know the first is quite long. Could someone tell me the order of difficulty of the three movements, and how much more difficult the most difficult is than the second most, and least. Thanks!

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