What's on your mind now?

[rachmaninoff_forever]

If nobody knows when they die?  Then how can someone say that they died prematurely?

[Bob]

I found a few more...

https://www.amazon.com/INFINITY-FOOT-PEDAL-INSUB2-IN-USB2/dp/B002MY6I7G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333908825&sr=8-1
INFINITY VEC USB FOOT PEDAL (INSUB2) (IN-USB2)
by Infinity


https://www.amazon.com/PageFlip-Cicada-Bluetooth-Automatic-Turner/dp/B004N1K4BM/ref=sr_1_37?ie=UTF8&qid=1333908926&sr=8-37
PageFlip Cicada Bluetooth Pedal Automatic Page Turner
by PageFlip, Inc


https://www.amazon.com/Kinesis-Savant-Programmable-Triple-Footswitch/dp/B000R9T0LO/ref=sr_1_42?ie=UTF8&qid=1333908926&sr=8-42
Kinesis Savant Elite Programmable Triple Action Footswitch, USB
by Kinesis


And the same bili one, but $20 more.
https://www.amazon.com/Maxi-Aids-Footime-Foot-Mouse/dp/B001CH956U/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1333908825&sr=8-7

[pianowolfi]

Relationships. I am a single since two years and I really love it. I feel like not ever wanting to go back to all that madness, sadness and drama that often comes with relationships. Too sad. I see so many people breaking up with each other. Very sad. 

[thalbergmad]

Relationships. I am a single since two years and I really love it.

I am single now for 13 years and I cannot say I miss relationships. I find it better just to have close friends.

If I get the urge, I just ring up the agency and get them to send someone over.

Thal

[oxy60]

That could mean something completely different.

Thal

You're not that old, Thal, to remember when illicit drugs came in tablet form! Yes, legit drugs sold "black" but those days are long gone.

For a real "high" we should take a ride on that new cable car over the Thames.

[oxy60]

I found a few more...

https://www.amazon.com/INFINITY-FOOT-PEDAL-INSUB2-IN-USB2/dp/B002MY6I7G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333908825&sr=8-1
INFINITY VEC USB FOOT PEDAL (INSUB2) (IN-USB2)
by Infinity


https://www.amazon.com/PageFlip-Cicada-Bluetooth-Automatic-Turner/dp/B004N1K4BM/ref=sr_1_37?ie=UTF8&qid=1333908926&sr=8-37
PageFlip Cicada Bluetooth Pedal Automatic Page Turner
by PageFlip, Inc


https://www.amazon.com/Kinesis-Savant-Programmable-Triple-Footswitch/dp/B000R9T0LO/ref=sr_1_42?ie=UTF8&qid=1333908926&sr=8-42
Kinesis Savant Elite Programmable Triple Action Footswitch, USB
by Kinesis


And the same bili one, but $20 more.
https://www.amazon.com/Maxi-Aids-Footime-Foot-Mouse/dp/B001CH956U/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1333908825&sr=8-7

Yes, thank you Bob!

I had no idea there were that many available. I have a wireless blue-tooth mouse with a scroll wheel and have used big track balls in the past. In a pdf file the page turn is a vertical scroll so the programmable would be perfect. A one click operation. My screen width is the same as a page width so one or two clicks should get me down a page.

One of the issues I've thought about was that we can't save the pdfs from THIS site. I wouldn't want to trigger an abuse accusation by downloading the same 15 or twenty pieces every day for my practice sessions.

I am single now for 13 years and I cannot say I miss relationships. I find it better just to have close friends.

If I get the urge, I just ring up the agency and get them to send someone over.

Thal

Giving new meaning to the quote: "Life is like a box of chocolates..."

[birba]

Relationships. I am a single since two years and I really love it. I feel like not ever wanting to go back to all that madness, sadness and drama that often comes with relationships. Too sad. I see so many people breaking up with each other. Very sad.  

I am single now for 13 years and I cannot say I miss relationships. I find it better just to have close friends.

This year I celebrate 40 years with the same companion.

[costicina]

This year I celebrate 40 years with the same companion.

I whish you other happy 40 years with your companion!!!!

To Wolfi:

[49410enrique]

I whish you other happy 40 years with your companion!!!!

To Wolfi:

2nd-ed.

nice solo version of said song from above.

[birba]

I never heard that P.Grainger arrangement.  It sounds like he used the gershwin piano solo as a basis.  Shows how ignorant I am.  I was sure Percy Grainger was a late 19th century composer.
I'd love to get my hands on the music.

[49410enrique]

I never heard that P.Grainger arrangement.  It sounds like he used the gershwin piano solo as a basis.  Shows how ignorant I am.  I was sure Percy Grainger was a late 19th century composer.
I'd love to get my hands on the music.

i'll email it you, it's quite nice, he did more than that one, i'll send you the ones i know i have (i have at least two of them). they are really quite nice and well laid out for the piano (as 'concert solos').

he also did some great solo versions of standard concertos (a theme from tchaikovsky b flat and the 3rd movement of rachmaninoff no 2, those are beefy to say the leats. all the hard copeis i've come across are vintage so i think it's all out of print, i think my files are small i should be able to send them all to your email in one message, it's on its way).

[costicina]

Enrique is the male (and muscular)  version of the fairy tales’ angel  ..

[candlelightpiano]

This year I celebrate 40 years with the same companion.

Happy 40th Anniversary, Birba to you and your companion!

[birba]

Enrique is the male (and muscular)  version of the fairy tales’ angel  ..

I know!  I got them!  He's really special, that Enrique!

[49410enrique]

costicina
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Enrique is the male (and muscular)  version of the fairy tales’ angel  ..

I know!  I got them!  He's really special, that Enrique!

[birba]

See what I mean!?

[littletune]

Happy 40 year anniversary Birba!  

Oh I have a lot on my mind!!! First I am so scared of tomorrow cause my guinea pig will probably have to have one more surgery!  

And then the other thing is that I'm thinking about moving!! Today we went to see those houses (apartments)!!!! It looks really cool. we could live downstairs and have a smaller apartment but a huge garden (that goes all around the house) or we could be upstairs (under the roof) and we would have a huge apartment!!! and the one upstairs costs less. So we were thinking more about the one upstairs! And it's really cool, you have the whole staircase (and places around them) and then you have a small room before you go into the apartment and then the apartment has two rooms and a living room (together with kitchen) and then one small room, and then you also have the attick! It's more than twice as big as our apartment now and it feels like you have your own house!! we also talked to some people who would be our neighbours, they seemed really nice and we asked them if the piano would bother them, and they were like even surprised why that would bother anyone. One woman with kids said that her son is learning to play a flute and that noone complained but that next year he will start learning a saxophon! And she also said her little daughter wants to start learning piano when she will be bigger (cause now she's like 4 or something). And then that woman also said Oh that would be nice if there was an older girl here so she could babysit sometimes (and she meant me).
And anyway the guy who was showing the apartments said he used to be a piano tuner   and he told my mum which room would be the best so people couldn't hear my piano playing. And that is a small room which is besides the room that would be my room, so I would have two rooms!!! A normal room and a music room!!!!!!!!             And also my dog liked it there so much, I don't know why but she was jumping and running around   ...
But that place is out of the city, and there's soooo much nature around (which is cool of course), but it's about 20 minutes till the first bus stop... so if my dad couldn't drive us it would be a little complicated...
And I don't even know how to feel about it!!! Because in a way I'm really excited and happy and would want to move there but in a way I don't want to go from here for ever... because I have been here my whole life!!!! So half of me is really happy and excited and really wants to go, but half of me is sad and wants to stay here!!!!       I don't know what to think!!!!!!

[costicina]

See what I mean!?

Oh yeeees!!!!! He's truly SPECIAL

[oxy60]

Happy 40 year anniversary Birba!  

Oh I have a lot on my mind!!! First I am so scared of tomorrow cause my guinea pig will probably have to have one more surgery! 

And then the other thing is that I'm thinking about moving!! Today we went to see those houses (apartments)!!!! It looks really cool. we could live downstairs and have a smaller apartment but a huge garden (that goes all around the house) or we could be upstairs (under the roof) and we would have a huge apartment!!! and the one upstairs costs less. So we were thinking more about the one upstairs! And it's really cool, you have the whole staircase (and places around them) and then you have a small room before you go into the apartment and then the apartment has two rooms and a living room (together with kitchen) and then one small room, and then you also have the attick! It's more than twice as big as our apartment now and it feels like you have your own house!! we also talked to some people who would be our neighbours, they seemed really nice and we asked them if the piano would bother them, and they were like even surprised why that would bother anyone. One woman with kids said that her son is learning to play a flute and that noone complained but that next year he will start learning a saxophon! And she also said her little daughter wants to start learning piano when she will be bigger (cause now she's like 4 or something). And then that woman also said Oh that would be nice if there was an older girl here so she could babysit sometimes (and she meant me).
And anyway the guy who was showing the apartments said he used to be a piano tuner  and he told my mum which room would be the best so people couldn't hear my piano playing. And that is a small room which is besides the room that would be my room, so I would have two rooms!!! A normal room and a music room!!!!!!!!            And also my dog liked it there so much, I don't know why but she was jumping and running around  ...
But that place is out of the city, and there's soooo much nature around (which is cool of course), but it's about 20 minutes till the first bus stop... so if my dad couldn't drive us it would be a little complicated...
And I don't even know how to feel about it!!! Because in a way I'm really excited and happy and would want to move there but in a way I don't want to go from here for ever... because I have been here my whole life!!!! So half of me is really happy and excited and really wants to go, but half of me is sad and wants to stay here!!!!      I don't know what to think!!!!!!

Embrace the change! That 20 minute walk to the bus stop won't kill you. Just be sure the buses run on time. You don't want to be standing there freezing.

I had a 20 minute walk to the bus. Slowly I got to know people on my route and the drivers. Sometimes late at night, I would be careful. The exercise did me a lot of good and I have never been in better shape. This was in Roma and often during their legendary traffic jams, the bus or trolley could get through where the cars couldn't.

[49410enrique]

think it's an improvement, i would watch this.

[costicina]

i

This was in Roma and often during their legendary traffic jams, the bus or trolley could get through where the cars couldn't.

You lived in Roma? Intersting.....I've been living here for many years now: such an mpossibile, yet beautiful city....

[pianowolfi]

This year I celebrate 40 years with the same companion.

This is wonderful and truly a reason to celebrate abundantly!

I have no idea why it never worked with my relationships.

Well, actually, I do have an idea: I have a very rare combination of interests. All of my three or four main interests are very important to me. It's quite easy to find a woman that really likes me and I like her, and she has perhaps two of my interests in common with me, but when it comes to the third or even fourth, there's just a huge wall and we can't share anything beyond those two common interests and there appears just a huge taboo which we can never ever sort out! And if I feel like my companion doesn't share all three or four of my interests, and can relate, and has all the same interests and priorities, I feel completely alone and I feel like what do I need a relationship for?  Just for the sake of feeling less alone? It's an illusion, as I am more alone in a relationship than if I stay a single.

[Bob]

I think it would be kind of intersting and a bit creepy too if they would rebuild the Titanic.  Make it safe, but keep it as much of a copy to the original as possible. It didn't even make it for one trip.  It could be a functional, travelling museum type of thing.  Call it Titantic 2012 or something but keep Titanic in the name.  Imagine walking on board something like that.

[m1469]

Imagine walking on board something like that.

That would be incredible!


This is really cool and gives me such a feeling of comfort for so many reasons.  About an elderly man (and people in general) living in a nursing home, who generally is unresponsive to people and questions, etc., but comes to life with music.  Pretty soon I want to play for them.


[ Invalid YouTube link ]

[m1469]

This is really very incredible to me.  A new device, a robotic mobilization, for people who would normally be confined to a wheelchair, but here they can have a much more mainstream life.  It just makes me happy for those who can really benefit from them, to see some technological advancements like this - it's really quite an incredible machine, too, and to consider the kind of thought that's behind it and which went into it (and it seems it had to be touched with love).  I know it's not necessarily everybody's cup of tea, but having felt extremely touched myself by a couple of individuals who could greatly benefit from this machine, it's really deeply beautiful to me.

https://www.wimp.com/newdevice/
(video)

[birba]

This is wonderful and truly a reason to celebrate abundantly!

I have no idea why it never worked with my relationships.

Well, actually, I do have an idea: I have a very rare combination of interests. All of my three or four main interests are very important to me. It's quite easy to find a woman that really likes me and I like her, and she has perhaps two of my interests in common with me, but when it comes to the third or even fourth, there's just a huge wall and we can't share anything beyond those two common interests and there appears just a huge taboo which we can never ever sort out! And if I feel like my companion doesn't share all three or four of my interests, and can relate, and has all the same interests and priorities, I feel completely alone and I feel like what do I need a relationship for?  Just for the sake of feeling less alone? It's an illusion, as I am more alone in a relationship than if I stay a single.

But why must your companion share all your interests?  My companion certainly shares my musical life and has always participated in that aspect.  But there are parts of my life, which I consider even more important that this person doesn't even consider.  I've been of the buddhist belief for years and nothing would please me more of this person would participate, or, at least, take an interest.  But I respect their beliefs and don't try or expect them understand me.  Now this is big stuff.  Bigger then the music.  But it certainly doesn't affect our relationship.  I don't think a relationship is for feeling less alone.  Like you say, you can feel alone in a relationship.  But I don't think that depends on the relationship.  It depends on something else inside you.  A relationship isn't for boosting our interests or moral support.  Two out of four of your interests is a lot!  There's more there...

[goldentone]

Like you say, you can feel alone in a relationship.  But I don't think that depends on the relationship.  It depends on something else inside you.  A relationship isn't for boosting our interests or moral support.  Two out of four of your interests is a lot!  There's more there...

I would consider Birba's luminating words, Wolfi.  I agree with him--something seems out of kilter. Reading your words, Wolfi, I find myself "scratching my soul" wondering about your shared interests obstacle.  You seem to be placing a demand that no one or very few could fulfill.  And then when some of your interests aren't reciprocated, are you concluding that they don't really care about you or love you?  Were you able to be a part of all of their interests?  The loneliness, built upon an unreality, may be the illusion rather than the relationship.  

I wish the best for you.  

[pianowolfi]

This is really very incredible to me.  A new device, a robotic mobilization, for people who would normally be confined to a wheelchair, but here they can have a much more mainstream life.  It just makes me happy for those who can really benefit from them, to see some technological advancements like this - it's really quite an incredible machine, too, and to consider the kind of thought that's behind it and which went into it (and it seems it had to be touched with love).  I know it's not necessarily everybody's cup of tea, but having felt extremely touched myself by a couple of individuals who could greatly benefit from this machine, it's really deeply beautiful to me.

https://www.wimp.com/newdevice/

That looks indeed like a really great progress!. I think in Japan they're working on something that will be even closer connected with the body, a sort of robotic dress.

[pianowolfi]

I would consider Birba's luminating words, Wolfi.  I agree with him--something seems out of kilter. Reading your words, Wolfi, I find myself "scratching my soul" wondering about your shared interests obstacle.  You seem to be placing a demand that no one or very few could fulfill.  And then when some of your interests aren't reciprocated, are you concluding that they don't really care about you or love you?  Were you able to be a part of all of their interests?  

I wish the best for you.  

Yes I know that it may sound like I'm very demanding. But I have experienced many times that it causes problems and I have become rather just realistic, in that I accept it like it is, instead of fighting it. "Knowing me, knowing you". Perhaps I also explained myself badly. It's difficult to explain.
I have this particular combination of interests or activities who contradict themselves for most other persons. Mostly a person does one of these activities but would never do the other, because this person is deeply convinced that activity no 2 is evil, or bad, or contradicts his innermost beliefs. So imagine I would for instance perform activity no 1 with my partner, and then switch to activity number two, but activity number is a huge provocation for my partner, she couldn't even watch it, and she has deep antipathies against it. This just causes a lot of conflict, and I would permanently have to justify myself, and hide away with my activity no 2.

[birba]

Well, then maybe you haven't encountered true "love".  True love is unconditional in accepting EVERYTHING from your partner.  You may not agree or share everything, but you accept it because it's HIM (or her).

[pianowolfi]

Dear Birba, don't get me started on unconditional love, you are risking another Wolfi rant   But I try my very best to avoid it!!   *keeps mouth shut and fingers on the piano*

[thalbergmad]

But why must your companion share all your interests? 

None of my previous companions were interested in Piano Concertos, Jack the Ripper and the Loch Ness monster, and we got on fine until they decided to depart.

Thal

[costicina]

Wolfi, don't get mad at me,  but I'm burning of curiosity: what are those unmentionable interests of yours that  make your beloved  run away? Maybe other women would  find them very intriguing

[birba]

Dear Birba, don't get me started on unconditional love, you are risking another Wolfi rant   But I try my very best to avoid it!!   *keeps mouth shut and fingers on the piano*

That was very banal of me, I know.  Things are so different for every individual.  There's no maxim in the world that can hold for everyone.  

[pianowolfi]

Wolfi, don't get mad at me,  but I'm burning of curiosity: what are those unmentionable interests of yours that  make your beloved  run away? Maybe other women would  find them very intriguing

Well, first I'm a member of a secret white magical lodge. (*goes to the piano and thunders Scriabin's white mass sonata*)
Secondly I'm a member of a secret black magical lodge. (*thunders Scriabin's black mass sonata*)
Thirdly I work on playing these two off against each other
I can't write about the fourth though, it's just too awkward.

 

[wert718]

In eleven more days, I will have been here for six years. 

[candlelightpiano]

wert: Congratulations in advance!! 

Since we're on the topic of relationships and anniversaries, don't you think it's rather dull if our partners or companions shared every interest of ours? Don't you think it makes relationships more interesting when the people in it have different interests?  Also, don't you think mutual interests can be developed over time?  My husband and I had only one interest in common when we met but over the last 12 years, we've developed mutual interests in other things.  There are still things he does that I have absolutely no interest in, and vice versa, but it doesn't affect our relationship at all. 

[oxy60]

i
You lived in Roma? Intersting.....I've been living here for many years now: such an mpossibile, yet beautiful city....

Yes, during the late 70's. I had to learn Italian from scratch because in those days no one spoke anything else. I lived in three different districts, Flaminia, Monte Mario and Centro on the IV Fontana. Birba writes that nothing has really changed. Have you seen any big changes for the better? When I was living outside the walls the four rush hours were a real problem.

Are you an ex-pat?

[thalbergmad]

Wolfi, don't get mad at me,  but I'm burning of curiosity: what are those unmentionable interests of yours that  make your beloved  run away?

Wolfi is very modest and he would not tell you himself, but he has one of the World's greatest collection of cuckoo clocks.

It is the job of his partners to wind them all up. Something that has proved to be intolerable.

Thal

[costicina]

Oh, I see....such an  ordeal could be intolerable even for the most ardent lovers 

[birba]

Oh, I don't know.  I could dig that...

[pianowolfi]

Wolfi is very modest and he would not tell you himself, but he has one of the World's greatest collection of cuckoo clocks.

It is the job of his partners to wind them all up. Something that has proved to be intolerable.

Thal

Finally somebody who understands me! Too bad you are so far away and too bad I'm hetero! 

[costicina]

Yes, during the late 70's. I had to learn Italian from scratch because in those days no one spoke anything else. I lived in three different districts, Flaminia, Monte Mario and Centro on the IV Fontana. Birba writes that nothing has really changed. Have you seen any big changes for the better? When I was living outside the walls the four rush hours were a real problem.

Are you an ex-pat?

I've seen many changes, but sure not for the better...yet, I have the luck to live in the historical center, in a 15th century building. The legend says that in my apartment used to live Lucrezia Borgia, (in)famous for her beauty, her dissolute life and her unpleasant habit to poison her hubbies when she got tired of them (needless to say, I admire her!!! )

And no, I'm not an ex-pat, I'm Italian, but I was born in Sardinya: another world altogether.....

[pianowolfi]

I think you're hot! . But I'm out of that world. I notice it, but I don't feel driven anymore, which is a relief, after all.

[littletune]

Embrace the change! That 20 minute walk to the bus stop won't kill you. Just be sure the buses run on time. You don't want to be standing there freezing.

I had a 20 minute walk to the bus. Slowly I got to know people on my route and the drivers. Sometimes late at night, I would be careful. The exercise did me a lot of good and I have never been in better shape. This was in Roma and often during their legendary traffic jams, the bus or trolley could get through where the cars couldn't.

Thanks Oxy! yes you're right, I mean I walk a lot already, because a lot of times I don't want to go by bus and I want to save money too   so I walk for 30 to 60 minutes (or sometimes even more) about 3 times a week... but I'm just a little worried because that road there looks so lonely and empty ... but I guess it's safer in the country anyway, and I think it would be good for my mum to start walking a little more too...   except I think you need a lot of time for walking and then for the bus and all that... well I could go with a bike!   well we will see  

One REALLY good news is that my guinea pig didn't need a surgery!!       I was sooooo happy when the vet said that the lump doesn't seem like anything dangerous but that it's probably just a  fat pocket that guinea pigs can have! We still need to check it a few times a week anyway but we were soooo happy she didn't have to have surgery so soon again!!!!!!!!      

Our toilet is still not completely fixed, they were repairing it today for a long time, since morning, so I couldn't even go to the toilet before I went to school, so I went at school, and when I came home they were gone already, but tomorrow they will come again, cause they need to know for sure that it's not leaking anymore!
And my mum's computer stopped working today!   and we have problems with money this month, so I'm not exactly sure how we could buy that apartment but my mum wants to go to some banks and ask how much she could get or something.   I really don't think it's fair, because my mum works so much all her life, she always works a lot more than she would need to, she always tries to do eveything the best she can, sometimes she doesn't even sleep just to do everything right, and she has been working for like more than 30 years, and she is having so much problems with money all the time!!!!!!!! it's just not fair!!!     this month she couldn't give me money for my piano lessons, she asked my teacher if she could wait untill next week and my teacher always says it's ok (even the first year when my mum couldn't pay the first 3 months, cause my dad doesn't want to give money for my piano lessons, so if we ask him he starts saying I shouldn't go to music school if we don't have money).... but it's just not fair!!!!!! and we just can't do anything about it!!! and I know there are people who don't even have enough food and that's really horrible and I am thankful for everything we do have, but I just think that for as much as my mum works and has been working for her whole life she would deserve at least so much money that she wouldn't need to worry about it every month and that she could buy that bigger apartment that she wants so much!!!! It's not like she wants a huge house and expensive cars (we have a 12 or 13 year old car!!! and that's the first car my parents ever bought), she doesn't want expensive holidays (we don't even go on a holiday every year!), she doesn't have a lot of clothes, she doesn't buy anything expensive for herself. The only expensive things we have are probably my piano (a little one), my dad's big tv (not a huge one!) and a two bedroom apartment which is only 56 m2 big!!!!!! and that's all!!!!!!! and I feel bad that my mum has so much problems paying for my music school, I even said I would stop going but my mum doesn't even want to hear about it cause she knows it's really important to me! And it will be her birthday at the end of the months... I wish I could win a lottery and give her all the money for her birthday. well I would work for it too if I knew what to do even if I had to work all days!! but what I get for the things I do is of course nothing! It's just really not fair! I really hate rich people right now!!!!!!!!  

[costicina]

You are right, Littletune,
it's NOT FAIR that a special person like you have to experience this kind of hideous money problems.... You deserve to be happy, and serene. You are very dear to us....

P.S. Enrique, please, do something to cheer up our Littletune, only you could do that!!!

[49410enrique]

P.S. Enrique, please, do something to cheer up our Littletune, only you could do that!!!

i'm not sure how much good i can do, but rockstar kitty says you're a strong girl and you'll get through this and be there for mom.  yes problems suck, money problems suck big time but you have many things to be very thankful for, focus on those. (rockstar kitty didn't say those words exactly but that's what i understood)

try to find a way for that emotion to come out through the piano, look for some music to let your soul get it out. and since your family makes the sacrifice for you to study piano the very best way for you to 'pay them back' is to study really hard, practice and discipline yourself (which we know you do) so that you learn as much as you can, i think that is what would really make them happy even when there's problems around.

[Bob]

One of the issues I've thought about was that we can't save the pdfs from THIS site. I wouldn't want to trigger an abuse accusation by downloading the same 15 or twenty pieces every day for my practice sessions.

??  I can save them.  Make sure you've got Reader...
https://get.adobe.com/reader/

I just hover around the lower middle of the page and a little toolbar with options appears.


If that doesn't work, but you can print, just print it to a PDF file.
https://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp

[49410enrique]

this might have been asked and answered before, but i really wonder why drive up ATM machines have the braile for the vision impared (i'm not against someone with vision problems getting quick convenient access to their money, it's the driving up to and driving away from the machine that i can't figure out).

[birba]