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Offline chopin2015

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4450 on: May 14, 2013, 04:21:48 AM
And i miss littletune, too.  :'(. And wolfi.  And costicina and enrique...


ohhh, do you need a tissue? I freaking had a inch and a half mesquite thorn go into my foot yesterday. It hurts so bad!!!

Also, I found out I am at least 1/16th polish.  :-*

 I will post my final recording of ballade no 1 soon. I am letting my neighbors have a break from that one for a bit. Muaahahaha
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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4451 on: May 16, 2013, 05:17:53 AM
Favorite new teacher quote -- "You found the only possible wrong answer."

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4452 on: May 16, 2013, 06:08:08 AM
Where's ajspiano? Off getting married and making photogenic babies? Or maybe rach babies/concerto and other crazy music while getting married?

I remember that was mentioned, so I wanted to send good wishes! Hopefully it is just the good things happening, and nothin' other!



"Beethoven wrote in three flats a lot. That's because he moved twice."

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4453 on: May 16, 2013, 06:14:31 AM

That has to be one of the cutest pictures I've ever seen!
How can I "use" it.  Is it a personal photo or can I get it off internet?
Never mind, I did it.  but it's distorted on the screen.

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4454 on: May 17, 2013, 12:31:57 AM
It's all over online.  Not mine at all.
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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4455 on: May 17, 2013, 12:38:20 AM
Where's ajspiano? Off getting married and making photogenic babies? Or maybe rach babies/concerto and other crazy music while getting married?

I remember that was mentioned, so I wanted to send good wishes! Hopefully it is just the good things happening, and nothin' other!


I got married on the 4th of may. The force was with me.



My bride had secretly written/rehearsed a song with the guitarist from the band. She dragged me out in front of everyone during her speech and sang to me.. which in turn made me cry in front of everyone (in a good way)..  :P

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4456 on: May 17, 2013, 12:43:34 AM
I got married on the 4th of may. The force was with me.

Congratulations, man!

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4457 on: May 17, 2013, 01:12:41 AM
which in turn made me cry in front of everyone (in a good way)..  :P

Ya big sook.  :P

Congratulations!
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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4458 on: May 17, 2013, 01:39:04 AM
Ya big sook.  :P


hahah indeed.

Its not so bad really. Heaps of people cried at our wedding.. must have been a truly horrible experience for them.

I recorded my own arrangement of the pachelbel canon for the bridal procession, which was announced as being my playing by the celebrant at the start of the ceremony - so I think 95% of the female guests were a bit teary from the very start.

It did me over to..  Bel insisted that we time everything out, and build the music up as each bridesmaid came in..  so the music climaxed perfectly as she entered the chapel, with a bit of an extended dominant 7 build up just before, then there was like a suspended kind of plagal cadence to finish right as she got to be in front of me...  at least I think the ending worked out properly - Its a bit of a mental blank for me to be honest..  it worked at the rehearsal.

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Reply #4459 on: May 17, 2013, 01:54:29 AM
a bit of an extended dominant 7 build up just before, then there was like a suspended kind of plagal cadence to finish right as she got to be in front of me... 

I do hope someone got you one of these as a wedding present:

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4460 on: May 17, 2013, 02:03:20 AM
This one seems more appropriate..   sadly I received neither.

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4461 on: May 17, 2013, 02:11:16 AM
I got married on the 4th of may. The force was with me.



My bride had secretly written/rehearsed a song with the guitarist from the band. She dragged me out in front of everyone during her speech and sang to me.. which in turn made me cry in front of everyone (in a good way)..  :P

Congrats J Menz- I mean...

Ajspiano!

That picture looks like it could be an add for something.
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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4462 on: May 17, 2013, 02:14:47 AM
That's awesome, ajs! Is that a picture of y'all together? Its beautiful! :') The wedding sounds like it was a lot of fun! Good for you! Best wishes to the young (but not too young!) couple!  :D

"Beethoven wrote in three flats a lot. That's because he moved twice."

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Reply #4463 on: May 17, 2013, 02:28:33 AM
That picture looks like it could be an add for something.

Our photographer was a freaking boss. She's like the yuja wang of wedding photography or something, has international awards and such..    it was seriously fun doing the photos, can't wait to see them in a couple of weeks, that's the only one we have seen so far.

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4464 on: May 17, 2013, 02:33:40 AM
Our photographer was a freaking boss. She's like the yuja wang of wedding photography or something, has international awards and such..    it was seriously fun doing the photos, can't wait to see them in a couple of weeks, that's the only one we have seen so far.

That is awesome! You guys are lucky to have each other! Congrats once more! Unkess you have answers to my mazeppa questions, what u doin on here? go serenade the bride, dude!   ;)
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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4465 on: May 17, 2013, 02:46:43 AM
That is awesome! You guys are lucky to have each other! Congrats once more! Unkess you have answers to my mazeppa questions, what u doin on here? go serenade the bride, dude!   ;)

Can't say I can give any concrete and specific advice on mazeppa off the top of my head, strikes me as being something that I'm not ready personally anyway in that I plan to thoroughly finish a near complete portion of fred before I tackle franz, atleast so far as etudes...  and when the time comes, mazeppa will not be first on the liszt. Ha.

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4466 on: May 17, 2013, 03:15:23 AM
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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4467 on: May 17, 2013, 03:39:16 AM
hahah indeed.

Its not so bad really. Heaps of people cried at our wedding.. must have been a truly horrible experience for them.

I recorded my own arrangement of the pachelbel canon for the bridal procession, which was announced as being my playing by the celebrant at the start of the ceremony - so I think 95% of the female guests were a bit teary from the very start.

It did me over to..  Bel insisted that we time everything out, and build the music up as each bridesmaid came in..  so the music climaxed perfectly as she entered the chapel, with a bit of an extended dominant 7 build up just before, then there was like a suspended kind of plagal cadence to finish right as she got to be in front of me...  at least I think the ending worked out properly - Its a bit of a mental blank for me to be honest..  it worked at the rehearsal.
AWESOME!   Finally a wedding procession that works WITH the wedding.  And that picture.  At first i thought you were pulling our leg.  It could be a fold-out from vogue magazine.  AUGURI!!!

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4468 on: May 17, 2013, 03:39:25 AM



Liiiszt!

 I unfortunately have decided against doing all the chopin etudes for right now (5 or 6 is enough). Maybe later, though. I don't particularly care to have a composer's set of etudes right now, but I would like to work 5 or so from each romantic and post romantic composer. Then I can move to the crazy scriabin sonatas I do not feel like struggling with right now.... :I no rush, though.

Hey...is the ms md mean cross hands? I assume so because the fingering gets weird....

"Beethoven wrote in three flats a lot. That's because he moved twice."

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4469 on: May 17, 2013, 03:47:16 AM
No.  ms left hand.  Then the next two groups md right hand.  
But the fingering would suggest alternating right and left hand.  Which is how it's usually done, i guess.  I've never played mazeppa.  Too hard.  >:(

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Reply #4470 on: May 17, 2013, 03:50:17 AM
No.  ms left hand.  Then the next two groups md right hand.

Not with the fingering given, unless one is triple jointed. 
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Reply #4471 on: May 17, 2013, 03:53:15 AM
You beat me to it.   ;D

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Reply #4472 on: May 17, 2013, 03:53:59 AM
Sweet! Thank y'all! That's what I was assuming but was unsure. Birba, you play this?   :o
Anyone have a pdf with good fingering for this?
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Reply #4473 on: May 17, 2013, 04:02:18 AM
Sweet! Thank y'all! That's what I was assuming but was unsure. Birba, you play this?   :o
Anyone have a pdf with good fingering for this?

That 42 24 42 fingering was dictated by Liszt himself as part of the etude, the purpose being to more accurately mimic a galloping horse. Mess with it at your own peril.
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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4474 on: May 17, 2013, 04:11:41 AM
That 42 24 42 fingering was dictated by Liszt himself as part of the etude, the purpose being to more accurately mimic a galloping horse. Mess with it at your own peril.

So, you're saying alternate hands every 16th/3rd ?  :o :o
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Reply #4475 on: May 17, 2013, 04:18:43 AM
Just looking at it superficially,  i would do lh 42-31, then rh 31-42 31-42.  But making it sound like 42-42 alternating hands. If you get what i mean.

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Reply #4476 on: May 17, 2013, 04:25:01 AM
Yeah! I do see what you are getting at. still alternating fingering every step. Got it! Thank you!
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Reply #4477 on: May 17, 2013, 04:31:02 AM
No!  The first group with left hand.  The next two groups with  the right hand.  Using the 42-31 fingering.  But making the whole thing SOUND like you're alternating hands playing with the 24 fingering on all the two-note chords. That is, very detached.  And like a galloping horse, like jmenz says.

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Reply #4478 on: May 17, 2013, 04:37:27 AM
I know the hands alternate those times. I mean that the fingers still alternate in each hand instead of repeating in each hand then switching hands, each step. so it sounds like they are switching. I cut the loss in having to alternate hands in half by using fingering in separate hands...
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Reply #4479 on: May 17, 2013, 05:46:05 AM
 :o

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4480 on: May 17, 2013, 02:27:54 PM
Oy, time to get up and...idk what. :I
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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4481 on: May 17, 2013, 11:29:01 PM
:o

NOOOOOOOOOO the Diva is doing her recital on the same day as me!!!

Is she trying to smash me on purpose?!

Time for some hard core advertising...
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Reply #4482 on: May 18, 2013, 02:40:59 AM
No!  The first group with left hand.  The next two groups with  the right hand.  Using the 42-31 fingering.  But making the whole thing SOUND like you're alternating hands playing with the 24 fingering on all the two-note chords. That is, very detached.  And like a galloping horse, like jmenz says.

Hey, I'm doing lh 42 31 rh 42 15 lh 42 31 :)
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Reply #4483 on: May 18, 2013, 05:32:17 AM
Good for you if you can do it.  It's that leap in the left hand after the third group that's a female dog.  That's why i suggested you do it with the rh. Where the leap isn't as great.

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4484 on: May 18, 2013, 07:43:03 AM
NOOOOOOOOOO the Diva is doing her recital on the same day as me!!!

Is she trying to smash me on purpose?!

Time for some hard core advertising...

That's bad...any way you could make her lose her voice?

Did you know that in the (very) old days pianists usually included singers in their recitals between the piano pieces? You should get a diva of your own to draw crowd :)

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Reply #4485 on: May 18, 2013, 02:02:52 PM
Good for you if you can do it.  It's that leap in the left hand after the third group that's a female dog.  That's why i suggested you do it with the rh. Where the leap isn't as great.

Its not too bad if you find a tempo that you can make the jump and go a little faster to practice not looking for it nut just going for it. Also I forgot what mu teacher told me. Never practice this stuff full volume. It is waaay easier to play faster and do the jumps if you practice quietly and lightly!  :-[
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Reply #4486 on: May 18, 2013, 04:13:22 PM
 
Its not too bad if you find a tempo that you can make the jump and go a little faster to practice not looking for it nut just going for it. Also I forgot what mu teacher told me. Never practice this stuff full volume. It is waaay easier to play faster and do the jumps if you practice quietly and lightly!  :-[

If the goal is to simulate a galloping horse then they shouldn't be perfectly even. A gallop is not a gait, it's just a natural run which will be uneven.
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Reply #4487 on: May 18, 2013, 05:10:02 PM

If the goal is to simulate a galloping horse then they shouldn't be perfectly even. A gallop is not a gait, it's just a natural run which will be uneven.

Thanks! I appreciate your insight!  :)
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Reply #4488 on: May 18, 2013, 10:02:12 PM
. It is waaay easier to play faster and do the jumps if you practice quietly and lightly!  :-[
uh, duh...!

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4489 on: May 18, 2013, 11:01:36 PM

Next time someone asks what to wear for a recital.... I'm all set with an answer.  ::)





That and I heard a car alarm go off today.  I *know* the pitch was the same as the first note of the Lone Ranger part of the William Tell Overture.
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Reply #4490 on: May 20, 2013, 04:29:05 AM
Bobbing for spam.  Like bobbing for apples, but with canned ham.  That is one of the grossest things I've heard of.

And it sullies the idea of bobbing.
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Reply #4491 on: May 20, 2013, 10:27:44 PM


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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4492 on: May 23, 2013, 03:40:04 PM
Chopin op.48 no.1 is uplayable. >:(

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Re: What's on your mind now?
Reply #4493 on: May 24, 2013, 12:00:05 AM
Chopin op.48 no.1 is unplayable. >:(

Nonsense. Occasionally it is, you just have to be in the right mood. Like after you've been burgled.

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Reply #4494 on: May 24, 2013, 12:34:32 AM
Interesting.

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Reply #4495 on: May 24, 2013, 12:37:29 AM
LOL, but don't let Thal see the footnotes.  ;D
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Reply #4496 on: May 24, 2013, 01:31:46 AM
Oops.  I didn't see that. Haha.
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Reply #4497 on: May 24, 2013, 02:22:58 AM
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Reply #4498 on: May 24, 2013, 03:20:40 AM
Nonsense. Occasionally it is, you just have to be in the right mood. Like after you've been burgled.


i know that lovely recording.  In effect, he plays it "playably".  He doesn't do the third part doppio tempo and it doesn't have that agitato feeling.  If you're going to play it at speed it can't be piano.  Even pollini said that.  But rubenstein and all the greats were never sticklers for the written page.  Arrau, who was a stickler, however, plays it at tempo.  It is agitato, and i like i that way.  But, of course, it's forte.

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Reply #4499 on: May 24, 2013, 02:46:31 PM
i know that lovely recording.  In effect, he plays it "playably".  He doesn't do the third part doppio tempo and it doesn't have that agitato feeling.  If you're going to play it at speed it can't be piano.  Even pollini said that.  But rubenstein and all the greats were never sticklers for the written page.  Arrau, who was a stickler, however, plays it at tempo.  It is agitato, and i like i that way.  But, of course, it's forte.

You bring up a point that maybe we should explore. I think those Italian words were used before there were metronomes. I'm of the opinion that the vocabulary is relative within itself. Dynamics, speed and programmatic instructions should be interpreted in comparison to the other words on the same subject. 
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