Last post wins!!!!!

[j_tour]

There's only one sister, and she was Whoopi Goldberg in the film classic *Sister Act*.

[lostinidlewonder]

There's only one sister, and she was Whoopi Goldberg in the film classic *Sister Act*.

Ah the holocaust expert? Lol.

[j_tour]

Ah the holocaust expert? Lol.

[perfect_pitch]

[lostinidlewonder]

Jokes about communism are not funny, especially when you are thrown into a Gulag.

[j_tour]

But jokes about atheism are gold!

Gold, I say you!

Rheingold!

[perfect_pitch]

I know - I tell people that my favourite fictional character is Jesus Christ. Seems to annoy them.

[j_tour]

What do you call a nun in a wheelchair?








Virgin mobile!



What do you call a piano student?






Virgin!

[lostinidlewonder]

I know - I tell people that my favourite fictional character is Jesus Christ. Seems to annoy them.

Only because that is a ridiculous statement there is ample evidence that he did exist since for example ancient Roman historians wrote about him and they hated the early Christians. Virtually all scholars of antiquity accept that Jesus was a historical figure and that has nothing to do with belief systems.

[perfect_pitch]

Only because that is a ridiculous statement there is ample evidence that he did exist since for example ancient Roman historians wrote about him and they hated the early Christians. Virtually all scholars of antiquity accept that Jesus was a historical figure and that has nothing to do with belief systems.

Touchy subject, I see. I won't mention JC any more then. How much fun can I make of Scientology then?

[lostinidlewonder]

Not so much touchy as trying to educate you a little. Going around saying Jesus is fiction just makes one look rather ignorant, but I understand some people don't mind that lol.

[j_tour]

Going around saying Jesus is fiction just makes one look rather ignorant, but I understand some people don't mind that lol.

He tastes good too.

And blood of christ?  Get out!  That is some top shelf stuff, for sure.

[lostinidlewonder]

Literalisation of symbolism can be rather funny. Like Death, who rides upon a thought, and makes his way through temple, tower, and palace.

[perfect_pitch]

He tastes good too.

And blood of christ?  Get out!  That is some top shelf stuff, for sure.

You realise it's non-alcoholic, so it ain't any top-shelf sh*t. They sell that zero-alcohol shite at every Woolworths, Coles and corner store in the country.

Not so much touchy as trying to educate you a little.

Maybe, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't born immaculate from the 'virgin' Mary, and he sure as hell didn't walk on water.

[lostinidlewonder]

Maybe, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't born immaculate from the 'virgin' Mary, and he sure as hell didn't walk on water.

Nowhere in the bible does it state an immaculate conception either. It wasn't until the 17th century did we realise that women had eggs inside them (and it was almost 200 years after that did we actually understand the role of the egg and sperm). Before then it was common to believe that it was the man who was totally responsible for it all and the woman a mere vessel to carry it. Thus the erroneous ideology of the immaculate conception that Jesus had nothing to do with being born of mankind. However you will not find anywhere in the bible anything explicitly supporting the immaculate conception.

As to how to interpret the representations of miracles in the bible, here certainly is not the place unless you want me to bore you in this thread and win!!!!

[j_tour]

You realise it's non-alcoholic, so it ain't any top-shelf sh*t. They sell that zero-alcohol shite at every Woolworths, Coles and corner store in the country.

It's loaded with CBD, because Jesus was a fricking Birkenstock-wearing hippie.  With one of those scraggly beards.

And then there's the whole "whammo!  alacajizz!" any substance becoming wine.  It was probably hobo wine, given his social circles, but there's nothing that says it couldn't be some fancy gourmet stuff.

I think you're both deeply confused about what the "immaculate" part of dogma is about.  It has nothing to do with the virgin birth, but rather the notion that Mary had no original stain (i.e., macula) or sin.

Or, to put it in terms people can understand, think about the objective and subjective genitive.

[Bob]

*Bob doesn't know what's going on, but just wanted to use that gif.* 

[j_tour]

*Bob doesn't know what's going on, but just wanted to use that gif.* 

Bob's a n00b!

Get him!

[lostinidlewonder]

I think you're both deeply confused about what the "immaculate" part of dogma is about.  It has nothing to do with the virgin birth, but rather the notion that Mary had no original stain (i.e., macula) or sin.

Why do the Catholics call her Virgin Mary then?

"The dogma that Mary was conceived without original sin was defined in 1854, by Pope Pius IX's apostolic constitution Ineffabilis Deus."

If you know about atonement theory apparently we are all born into sin through Adams original sin, quite an archaic (and wrong imho) perspective. It puts creation first and salvation later rather than salvation first and creation in that relaxed state of knowing one is saved from the start (see James Alison's work on this topic, he is an openly gay catholic priest, theologian and writer, put that in your pipe and smoke it!)

Christianity certainly is better off perceiving worship beyond atonement theory which it has far too long been ruined with. Virgin Mary apparently avoided this through this so called immaculate conception, conception without the original sin connected to Adam.

I win, the truth is immaculate!! Lol

[perfect_pitch]

If you know about atonement theory apparently we are all born into sin through Adams original sin, quite an archaic (and wrong imho) perspective.

Exactly - that's what pisses me off about religion. Apparently god is fine to condemn us from the day we are born because some guy picked an apple.

Lord of the guilt trip... and willing to damn us all to hell for it. Although apparently his love is everlasting as well, but then if that's so - why lay the guilt trip on us from the nanosecond we are born???

[j_tour]

why lay the guilt trip on us from the nanosecond we are born???

Because people are pretty crappy and they deserve it?

[perfect_pitch]

Because people are pretty crappy and they deserve it?

SOME people are pretty crappy... some try to go through their entire life without being an arsehole... why label them all as guilty???

That's speciesist!!!

[lostinidlewonder]

Exactly - that's what pisses me off about religion. Apparently god is fine to condemn us from the day we are born because some guy picked an apple.

Lord of the guilt trip... and willing to damn us all to hell for it. Although apparently his love is everlasting as well, but then if that's so - why lay the guilt trip on us from the nanosecond we are born???

An utterly terrible way to approach Christianity imho but so common, it has been used in the past and even today for control and produced such songs as Amazing Grace, we are such wretches right, fml???

It is a tragic that Christianity has been packaged in this way, we deserve death for our sinful life and we hide behind the cross for salvation. Instead why not realise that we are saved first and foremost and that we then undergo a creation process where we are relaxed and live beyond our boundaries without the fear of death nor do we believe we have actually earned anything at all since it was given to us from the start. That to me is many times more powerful than constantly living with "the sword of Damocles" dangling above or heads forever praying it doesn't fall.

[perfect_pitch]

While I'd love to comment on Theology and take this matter further... it's much easier to just write:

"I win, I'm off to bed, and I'll continue to win this thread when I wake up tomorrow".

So... nighty night.

[lostinidlewonder]

"I win, I'm off to bed, and I'll continue to win this thread when I wake up tomorrow".

So... nighty night.

I take your win away while you sleep. I'll make sure j_tour doesn't draw on your face.

[j_tour]

I take your win away while you sleep. I'll make sure j_tour doesn't draw on your face.

There's no sleeping at all.

Not in this bunker.

There are only brain damage-induced blackouts, and, yes, I will be creating samples of the disgusting noises that occur while the dipsomaniacs are restive (yes, they are restive indeed while resting:  one of their defining traits).

Virgin Mary apparently avoided this through this so called immaculate conception, conception without the original sin connected to Adam.

Yes, that is correct.  However, it seemed to me your earlier posts referred to the conception of Iesus as immaculate, rather than the conception of Mary herself. 

It doesn't matter.

I'm just in the RCC for the broads and the food and drink.  And the exercise:  kneeling is hard work.  And the bling:  medallions are cool, yo.  And I can keep my Latin fresh using post-classical texts, which is somewhat fun.

[perfect_pitch]

I take your win away while you sleep. I'll make sure j_tour doesn't draw on your face.

Awww... aren't you a kind soul. It will be nice knowing I have a guardian angel... of sorts. Although while you suggest you'll keep J_Tour from drawing on my face, you didn't state that you wouldn't be tempted to draw on it in his absence.

[lostinidlewonder]

We balanced beer cans on your head, got to 10 high! Lol

[perfect_pitch]

Is that why there were weird circle shaped on my forehead??? I thought tiny aliens had tried to use me to form crop circles...

Now it all makes sense... although least you could have done was left me a beer.

[lostinidlewonder]

Lol.

It would have gone higher but j_tour started hittin the piss hard, he really got on the grog, skullin shotties, got hell derro, the place was a real dogs breakfast after he started chuckin a spack, a bit of a drop kick for doing that, needs to learn to hold his plonk better, but shouldn't make a mountain out of a molehill.

Lol I know you and I will get that the rest will be like, what? Lol

[j_tour]

Lol I know you and I will get that the rest will be like, what? Lol

I know you both are twisted goat-sh** cigar smokers.

[perfect_pitch]

I know you both are twisted goat-sh** cigar smokers.

Hell no - never touched those dirty things in my life. Never even done weed. That title goes entirely to lostinidlewonder.

[lostinidlewonder]

Cuban cigar for the birth of baby is a tradition for some that I've partaken in on the rare occasion, but I'd not do it for any other reason.

I don't drink alcohol or smoke (anything for that matter), although I don't condem others that do so. With cigarettes costing like $2 each here in Australia I don't understand why people want to burn their money up like that.

If I had to choose to be a drinker or pot smoker I'd certainly go for the green, you can still function on that, but I am more energetic and creative keeping away from both.

The only thing I've ever noticed expands creativity is psilocybin but that is a real task to take and requires isolation and a meditative space and not something anyone really wants to take regulary! However I've seen people with drug resistant depression learn to function again with that, and one who has cluster headaches (aka suicide headaches) live a life again. So too I've seen people live a life again with cbd/thc so I wouldn't be so ignorant to consider it anything bad.

Why do we consider pharmaceutical legalised drugs any better than natural drugs? Why is alcohol considered socially acceptable just because it is legalised?

[perfect_pitch]

Easy, because right now the government know that there is a ton of people willing to swig wine, whisky, gin, beer and anything else, and they can get a nice piece of the profit. Chances are they could probably do the same with the drugs, but I don't know why they haven't done so yet.

They're probably still worried about how they're going to prevent 15 year olds from getting their hands on it and getting wasted in English class.

[j_tour]

I've laced this thread with PCP. 

Now lick it.

Lick the thread.

[perfect_pitch]

I'm licking the screen but all I'm getting is static... Do I lick it harder???

I'll try licking my mouse...

[j_tour]

I'm licking the screen but all I'm getting is static... Do I lick it harder???

Yep.  Lick it harder.  And work the mouse with one hand at the same time.

It should feel natural and pleasant.

Trust me.

[lostinidlewonder]

[perfect_pitch]

I miss the old days when the Simpsons were actually funny, well written and plausible exploits about the typical american family. Now it's just celebrity appearances out the blue and narcissistic rehashes of stories they've already told.

[j_tour]

The Simpsons have been done since the mid 1990s.  I don't understand the kids these days glomming onto it with some misguided sense of dutiful reminscence.

[lostinidlewonder]

Quiet old man, go watch some "I love Lucy".

[perfect_pitch]

Quiet old man, go watch some "I love Lucy".

J_Tour is entirely accurate. The Simpsons went downhill after its idiotic 'Fox' network jokes, and then it started relying on parodies of nursery rhymes, famous movies, and biblic retellings.

Have you see one of the new episodes??? I have - they are embarrassing.

[lostinidlewonder]

Well it is the longest running cartoon in history hard to keep up with the quality of its earlier years with all those good writers leaving.

[perfect_pitch]

Well it is the longest running cartoon in history hard to keep up with the quality of its earlier years with all those good writers leaving.

Maybe, but Jerry Seinfeld only did 9 seasons of Seinfeld, and he chose not to do a 10th season despite being promised millions per episode because he wanted to end on a high. I have to give credit to the man - the show ended on a magnificent climax and he didn't want the reputation of the show to sully itself by letting it get worse.

There's no point being the longest if the show is now a large pile of crap. I mean look at the Flintstones and the introduction of the space alien 'Gazoo'... I mean, what the hell was with that???

[lostinidlewonder]

Well the point for keeping it running is that a number of people are making a living from that show. Matt Groening's net worth is like $600 million and the cast all earn a good amount each episode, so why not keep it going if it is making people a living despite its golden years being over.

[j_tour]

[perfect_pitch]

Well the point for keeping it running is that a number of people are making a living from that show. Matt Groening's net worth is like $600 million and the cast all earn a good amount each episode, so why not keep it going if it is making people a living despite its golden years being over.

Pride??? Making a cartoon just merely to be the longest running cartoon only encourages mediocrity. Family Guy is another terrible cartoon that should have died YEARS AGO.

[lostinidlewonder]

I guess you're out of touch as to what trends as being sustainably popular these days 

[j_tour]

Those are some hot takes, people!

Tell me about the deal with airline food, next, please!

And what's the deal with elevators? 

[perfect_pitch]

I guess you're out of touch as to what trends as being sustainably popular these days 

If you think 'The Simpsons' is trendy and popular these days??? I've got some bad news...